How A Big Pharma Company Defrauded Doctors and Addicts, Making MILLIONS Off Of Opioid Crisis
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Date: 2019-11-01
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LilHoney1
I live in West Virginia and it's hit here hard and if you have chronic pain you're looked down on for wanting treatment and relief for the pain all because people decided to abuse the medication, the very medication that provides people with chronic pain that relief. I personally think that Suboxone is a good thing for people struggling with addiction but not everybody is an addict some of us just really want to be out of pain not withdrawal. Me personally I just take the medication when I need it I've been on it now for 19 years and I can go without it and still not get sick because I take it like I'm supposed to and I'm scared of it I've seen what it can do if abused and that terrifies me. I have family, friends that I've lost all due to opioid abuse. Thankfully, the ones who made it, they're in recovery on Suboxone. Because it's harder to get opioids now heroin has hit my area, so people will sell their Suboxone to get that and clean up before their next appointment. I'm sure most everybody saw where there were like 26 or 30 overdoses in one day here because of a bad batch of heroin. What was really scary was it was all young people. You just don't know how pure or not what your putting in your body when you mess with that stuff. It's just a huge gamble that I don't understand why anybody would take it. It's the same with any opioid that's abused though. To me it'll never be worth it to gamble with my life. Another problem around here we have doctors that are straight cash and who do not care what you do when you leave because they like that money. My own pain management doctor just closed up and the family doctor has taken over and we're trying different medications right now to find what helps. The pain is so bad it's debilitating at times, but the family doctor doesn't write opioids because he doesn't want to lose his license. The doctors here are scared which leaves people like myself without proper treatment that has provided me with relief in the past. He said if they came back even a little bit more on the laws that he'd be able to treat me and others with real chronic pain with what he thinks would help or what had previously helped me. I swear I feel like a guinea pig having to try these different medications that's so far haven't helped or barely helped.
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I live in West Virginia and it's hit here hard and if you have chronic pain you're looked down on for wanting treatment and relief for the pain all because people decided to abuse the medication, the very medication that provides people with chronic pain that relief. I personally think that Suboxone is a good thing for people struggling with addiction but not everybody is an addict some of us just really want to be out of pain not withdrawal. Me personally I just take the medication when I need it I've been on it now for 19 years and I can go without it and still not get sick because I take it like I'm supposed to and I'm scared of it I've seen what it can do if abused and that terrifies me. I have family, friends that I've lost all due to opioid abuse. Thankfully, the ones who made it, they're in recovery on Suboxone. Because it's harder to get opioids now heroin has hit my area, so people will sell their Suboxone to get that and clean up before their next appointment. I'm sure most everybody saw where there were like 26 or 30 overdoses in one day here because of a bad batch of heroin. What was really scary was it was all young people. You just don't know how pure or not what your putting in your body when you mess with that stuff. It's just a huge gamble that I don't understand why anybody would take it. It's the same with any opioid that's abused though. To me it'll never be worth it to gamble with my life. Another problem around here we have doctors that are straight cash and who do not care what you do when you leave because they like that money. My own pain management doctor just closed up and the family doctor has taken over and we're trying different medications right now to find what helps. The pain is so bad it's debilitating at times, but the family doctor doesn't write opioids because he doesn't want to lose his license. The doctors here are scared which leaves people like myself without proper treatment that has provided me with relief in the past. He said if they came back even a little bit more on the laws that he'd be able to treat me and others with real chronic pain with what he thinks would help or what had previously helped me. I swear I feel like a guinea pig having to try these different medications that's so far haven't helped or barely helped.
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Candy Colon-Rivera
The sum of it all: Theres NO MONEY in curing people. Its about whats in their best interest & whats profitable. Its pretty terrible if you were to think about it, from a business POV. Youre obviously in business to make money, long term. Yeah, theyve chosen a business venture thats INTENDED to help sick people get better & enjoy a better quality of life. But realistically, its still about money. They work enough to fix the immediate, life altering or life threatening effects of any given disorder or disease. It can fix those concerns that brought you to your Doc & give you a sense of satisfaction & sense that the industry IS helping people & IS good. With all the advancements in technology & how much PROGRESS theres been in the medical field, whether it be changes in whats accepted as the standard approach to treating whatever ailment. In considering all of that, its obvious theres been A LOT of time & money invested into research. I find it VERY curious that, with all of that & just the nature of research, there havent been many CURES found. Not even that they specifically were looking for it but that, they happened to stumble upon it. I really think they have. But in deciding whether to hone in & invest more into that, I think they CHOSE to not. Those decisions are made by Money Men, not left up to the medical professionals who may be so excited & READY to learn more & give more to the medical community. Its not a sound money move to cure people. A much more profitable approach is to keep them well enough to trust you & need you. Keep you on whatever meds, lest you have to deal with the effects of not. But along with fixing what brought you to them, you need them to handle the side effects from that initial drug. Which obviously is fixed with another drug. & so the cycle continues. If they cured you, that initial visit would be it. You wouldnt continue to need them & make more visits. So the money would stop. Its logical if you think of it from that POV. Its EVIL from a normal person POV, thats living with a disease that effects everything in their lives.
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The sum of it all: Theres NO MONEY in curing people. Its about whats in their best interest & whats profitable. Its pretty terrible if you were to think about it, from a business POV. Youre obviously in business to make money, long term. Yeah, theyve chosen a business venture thats INTENDED to help sick people get better & enjoy a better quality of life. But realistically, its still about money. They work enough to fix the immediate, life altering or life threatening effects of any given disorder or disease. It can fix those concerns that brought you to your Doc & give you a sense of satisfaction & sense that the industry IS helping people & IS good. With all the advancements in technology & how much PROGRESS theres been in the medical field, whether it be changes in whats accepted as the standard approach to treating whatever ailment. In considering all of that, its obvious theres been A LOT of time & money invested into research. I find it VERY curious that, with all of that & just the nature of research, there havent been many CURES found. Not even that they specifically were looking for it but that, they happened to stumble upon it. I really think they have. But in deciding whether to hone in & invest more into that, I think they CHOSE to not. Those decisions are made by Money Men, not left up to the medical professionals who may be so excited & READY to learn more & give more to the medical community. Its not a sound money move to cure people. A much more profitable approach is to keep them well enough to trust you & need you. Keep you on whatever meds, lest you have to deal with the effects of not. But along with fixing what brought you to them, you need them to handle the side effects from that initial drug. Which obviously is fixed with another drug. & so the cycle continues. If they cured you, that initial visit would be it. You wouldnt continue to need them & make more visits. So the money would stop. Its logical if you think of it from that POV. Its EVIL from a normal person POV, thats living with a disease that effects everything in their lives.
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Kayla Riggs
This medication helped me get sober when I found out I was unexpectedly pregnant. My daughter's father & I have both been sober for almost 4 years now. The changes we've made since then - and the progress - I can't even begin to explain. I've never had this much sobriety since I began using in 2008. My fiance not only gained consistent employment and returned to school to further his education in less than 2 months after we stopped using but, he eventually became a Supervisor at his company and has had incredible success. He supports our family financially, I no longer have issues with mood stabilization (and thus no need for mental health meds, I have plans to start a small business in the near future and go back to school when my daughter goes to kindergarten. And in the meantime, my daughter gets all the one-one-one attention she needs at home with Mom. We are happy and healthy, motivated and determined. I still go to counselling on a regular basis. I have no idea what we would have done without the medication and counselling. I am so grateful of how far we've come, by the grace of God, and I reqlly wish everyone wasn't judged so harshly just because they take medication to aid in their recovery. The very few people who misuse or abuse it ruin it for everyone else who really just want to have a good life. a happy, healthy, normal, successful life free from heroin and just able to enjoy all the little things.
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This medication helped me get sober when I found out I was unexpectedly pregnant. My daughter's father & I have both been sober for almost 4 years now. The changes we've made since then - and the progress - I can't even begin to explain. I've never had this much sobriety since I began using in 2008. My fiance not only gained consistent employment and returned to school to further his education in less than 2 months after we stopped using but, he eventually became a Supervisor at his company and has had incredible success. He supports our family financially, I no longer have issues with mood stabilization (and thus no need for mental health meds, I have plans to start a small business in the near future and go back to school when my daughter goes to kindergarten. And in the meantime, my daughter gets all the one-one-one attention she needs at home with Mom. We are happy and healthy, motivated and determined. I still go to counselling on a regular basis. I have no idea what we would have done without the medication and counselling. I am so grateful of how far we've come, by the grace of God, and I reqlly wish everyone wasn't judged so harshly just because they take medication to aid in their recovery. The very few people who misuse or abuse it ruin it for everyone else who really just want to have a good life. a happy, healthy, normal, successful life free from heroin and just able to enjoy all the little things.
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Jessica Walker
My ex boyfriend started with a small pain killer abuse problem (by small i mean irregular use, not an everyday user) he decided to out himself to a doctor who immediately put him in an outpatient rehabilitation program. They wrote him a 30 day prescription of percocet, (which was more pills than he had ever acquired for recreational use i beleive it was for 120 pills) and instructed him to take them daily. Once he had completed the 30 days he had to stay overnight in a facility to detox. After that ONE night the began his suboxone treatment, he was instructed to take 2 films a day and half films in between if he had a druf craving. This plan in my opinion completely backfired and turned him into a totally opiod dependent person. Occasionally he'd run out of suboxone strips and would have to be seen by his doctor for a refill, if the doctor wasnt available for a week all hell would break loose and my ex would turn to extreme drug seeking to avoid detox. About a year later after his suboxone treatment had begun he became a full on iv heroin addict, and even began shooting up the strips. Im not sure if he's even alive at this point unfortunately no one i know has seen him in years. Anyway thats my experience and unfortunately it was very negative, i do not trust doctors that prescribe this but if it helps some I'm greatful for that.
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My ex boyfriend started with a small pain killer abuse problem (by small i mean irregular use, not an everyday user) he decided to out himself to a doctor who immediately put him in an outpatient rehabilitation program. They wrote him a 30 day prescription of percocet, (which was more pills than he had ever acquired for recreational use i beleive it was for 120 pills) and instructed him to take them daily. Once he had completed the 30 days he had to stay overnight in a facility to detox. After that ONE night the began his suboxone treatment, he was instructed to take 2 films a day and half films in between if he had a druf craving. This plan in my opinion completely backfired and turned him into a totally opiod dependent person. Occasionally he'd run out of suboxone strips and would have to be seen by his doctor for a refill, if the doctor wasnt available for a week all hell would break loose and my ex would turn to extreme drug seeking to avoid detox. About a year later after his suboxone treatment had begun he became a full on iv heroin addict, and even began shooting up the strips. Im not sure if he's even alive at this point unfortunately no one i know has seen him in years. Anyway thats my experience and unfortunately it was very negative, i do not trust doctors that prescribe this but if it helps some I'm greatful for that.
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Killer miller
Ive been on suboxone for around 4yrs. I started at 8mgs was stay at that for at least a 2 years before certain things in my life made me want for do I quite quickly so went down to 3mgs over only 2month-ish which was a lot easiesr then I thought although Im now at only 1mg but Im super surprised at how hard it is to get off completely. I still feel like shit if I miss one dose. They are clearly very strong pills. Its definitely a double edged sword for me because yes suboxone helped me start to live a more stable life but it was also at the time what I was get the most often on the streets (Keep in mind I was a recovering addict of OxyContin pills and was around a year clean) when I started doing some again but they were hard to get do I turned to suboxone which was cheap and very easy to get. This time around I had a good job so I just couldnt just go cold turkey to quit like I had before to get off OxyContin nor did I ever want to go through that painful withdrawal period ever again so this time I decided to go my local Methadone Clinic. Its Been a very long road but I do think by midsummer of this year Ill be opioid free Also my story is from Canada Thank you for covering this topic Phil
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Ive been on suboxone for around 4yrs. I started at 8mgs was stay at that for at least a 2 years before certain things in my life made me want for do I quite quickly so went down to 3mgs over only 2month-ish which was a lot easiesr then I thought although Im now at only 1mg but Im super surprised at how hard it is to get off completely. I still feel like shit if I miss one dose. They are clearly very strong pills. Its definitely a double edged sword for me because yes suboxone helped me start to live a more stable life but it was also at the time what I was get the most often on the streets (Keep in mind I was a recovering addict of OxyContin pills and was around a year clean) when I started doing some again but they were hard to get do I turned to suboxone which was cheap and very easy to get. This time around I had a good job so I just couldnt just go cold turkey to quit like I had before to get off OxyContin nor did I ever want to go through that painful withdrawal period ever again so this time I decided to go my local Methadone Clinic. Its Been a very long road but I do think by midsummer of this year Ill be opioid free Also my story is from Canada Thank you for covering this topic Phil
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Jynxedlove
My disease, Ehlers Danlos Syndrome responds very well for a lot of people to a low dose of naltrexone. 005-. 05mg. I asked a prescribing pain doctor if we could try that. He prescribed suboxone film to me at 5mg. I OD'd and had to go to the ER with a respiratory rate of 3. Not 30. Not 13. 3. I went back to the doctor and he yelled at me for not taking the first dose in his office, which he had not asked me to do and I had asked about it. He prescribes half the dose and tells me to take it at home. I take half of what he told me to. I OD again. Same low respiratory rate the the only thing the ER could do was monitor me. Back to doctor, and he rx'd it _again_. I was not having it. I found a new doctor and had to switch my tramadol prescription again (switched to a new insurance so new PCP who took over my script until I got this pain doctor, so four doctor swaps in six months, which put me on a restricted list on my insurance. This doctor was fine with possibly _killing me_ just to sell more suboxone. His name is Doctor Phillip Fyman, Cornell graduate, at least previously practicing in Syosset NY. You know, jsyk.
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My disease, Ehlers Danlos Syndrome responds very well for a lot of people to a low dose of naltrexone. 005-. 05mg. I asked a prescribing pain doctor if we could try that. He prescribed suboxone film to me at 5mg. I OD'd and had to go to the ER with a respiratory rate of 3. Not 30. Not 13. 3. I went back to the doctor and he yelled at me for not taking the first dose in his office, which he had not asked me to do and I had asked about it. He prescribes half the dose and tells me to take it at home. I take half of what he told me to. I OD again. Same low respiratory rate the the only thing the ER could do was monitor me. Back to doctor, and he rx'd it _again_. I was not having it. I found a new doctor and had to switch my tramadol prescription again (switched to a new insurance so new PCP who took over my script until I got this pain doctor, so four doctor swaps in six months, which put me on a restricted list on my insurance. This doctor was fine with possibly _killing me_ just to sell more suboxone. His name is Doctor Phillip Fyman, Cornell graduate, at least previously practicing in Syosset NY. You know, jsyk.
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Create And Adorn
Suboxone /Subutex came out in 2006 - I started taking it in 2007 & still take it to this day. It's a double edge sword - I had been hooked on Hydrocodone for 5 years at a huge cost to my health & wallet and possibly my life. Suboxone saved me - 100% - I had tried to quit - spent a fortune on rehab - nothing worked until this. What I didn't hear anyone mention is that Suboxone is just as addictive as any other opioid - someone could die from withdrawal if they don't taper properly. Nothing scares me more than running out (like if my handbag was stolen or something) because it's a highly controlled med, so I would be SOL until my next refill. You are literally exchanging one drug for another - the difference is and why it has worked for me is, unlike other opioids, you don't build up a tolerance and constantly need to take more. My doctor has tried to get me to taper many times, and I keep saying I'm not ready - this drug was never meant to be a lifestyle, though something tells me Big Pharma hoped it would be
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Suboxone /Subutex came out in 2006 - I started taking it in 2007 & still take it to this day. It's a double edge sword - I had been hooked on Hydrocodone for 5 years at a huge cost to my health & wallet and possibly my life. Suboxone saved me - 100% - I had tried to quit - spent a fortune on rehab - nothing worked until this. What I didn't hear anyone mention is that Suboxone is just as addictive as any other opioid - someone could die from withdrawal if they don't taper properly. Nothing scares me more than running out (like if my handbag was stolen or something) because it's a highly controlled med, so I would be SOL until my next refill. You are literally exchanging one drug for another - the difference is and why it has worked for me is, unlike other opioids, you don't build up a tolerance and constantly need to take more. My doctor has tried to get me to taper many times, and I keep saying I'm not ready - this drug was never meant to be a lifestyle, though something tells me Big Pharma hoped it would be
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Steve Damian
I don't think a solution is possible, because the amount of opioids created and sold in America would not have been physically possible without Governmental assistance. I have friends who were in the military back i 2005 who were guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan. The timing of the surge in opioid perscriptions and the invasion of the country that produces the most poppy plants is dead on. Almost all of the Heroin (90%+) came in through legal ports of entry. I can't make it through customs with an extra carton of cigarettes yet massive quantities of heroin are slipping past with no problem? Doubt it. Anyway, i think a good solution would be to hang every pharma executive that makes opiates, then hang their kids just to be sure their genes are removed from the pool entirely. Ive lost almost every close friend I had. Opioids wiped out my whole neighborhood.
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I don't think a solution is possible, because the amount of opioids created and sold in America would not have been physically possible without Governmental assistance. I have friends who were in the military back i 2005 who were guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan. The timing of the surge in opioid perscriptions and the invasion of the country that produces the most poppy plants is dead on. Almost all of the Heroin (90%+) came in through legal ports of entry. I can't make it through customs with an extra carton of cigarettes yet massive quantities of heroin are slipping past with no problem? Doubt it. Anyway, i think a good solution would be to hang every pharma executive that makes opiates, then hang their kids just to be sure their genes are removed from the pool entirely. Ive lost almost every close friend I had. Opioids wiped out my whole neighborhood.
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C D
I think the total disregard for life and level of greed we see in all areas is sickening. I think the statement about how much profit is enough says it all. I think there has to be a policy overhaul. Medications are a necessity not a privilege. There are many people with addiction and mental illness who are homeless because they can't afford medication and can't even get medicaid because they don't have permanent address. People deserve to get paid for their products. That is why there are patent laws but you can't own something forever. There would never be any progress. The seatbelt was invented by Volvo and they opened the patent in the interest of public safety. This whole idea that people can treated as less than is disgusting. Step one is getting the government out of bed with these companies.
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I think the total disregard for life and level of greed we see in all areas is sickening. I think the statement about how much profit is enough says it all. I think there has to be a policy overhaul. Medications are a necessity not a privilege. There are many people with addiction and mental illness who are homeless because they can't afford medication and can't even get medicaid because they don't have permanent address. People deserve to get paid for their products. That is why there are patent laws but you can't own something forever. There would never be any progress. The seatbelt was invented by Volvo and they opened the patent in the interest of public safety. This whole idea that people can treated as less than is disgusting. Step one is getting the government out of bed with these companies.
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