Ten Minute English and British History #16 - The Wars of the Roses
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Date: 2022-07-19
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Marc
As an American I dont know much, or care much, about royalty, but it does raise a question. With royals killing each other, marrying for power, beheading rivals and invading their own county, I cant help but wonder whats in any of this for the English. Not the royals, but the actual people. Wouldnt they have been better off with a less ambition driven government?
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As an American I dont know much, or care much, about royalty, but it does raise a question. With royals killing each other, marrying for power, beheading rivals and invading their own county, I cant help but wonder whats in any of this for the English. Not the royals, but the actual people. Wouldnt they have been better off with a less ambition driven government?
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education
Honestly, this is what I thought entire GoT would be like with fantasy elements added to it. I wanted to see complex political drama with dragons and such. I guess this was a thing until like season 5. Everything became so simplified by the end as if everyone forgot why they were even fighting for the throne in the first place.
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Honestly, this is what I thought entire GoT would be like with fantasy elements added to it. I wanted to see complex political drama with dragons and such. I guess this was a thing until like season 5. Everything became so simplified by the end as if everyone forgot why they were even fighting for the throne in the first place.
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Gregor
If it wasn't for the unimaginative naming customs of late medieval lords, this would be easier to follow. Imagine if not everybody involved was either Henry, Edward, George or William. I was rooting for the guy who couldn't decide whether he was Jack or John.
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If it wasn't for the unimaginative naming customs of late medieval lords, this would be easier to follow. Imagine if not everybody involved was either Henry, Edward, George or William. I was rooting for the guy who couldn't decide whether he was Jack or John.
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History
The next episode won't be English and British history just so everyone knows, it'll be 'The Fall of the Ottomans and the Birth of Turkey' (1804-1930. Just so the people who aren't interested in English history can get some content they like too.
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The next episode won't be English and British history just so everyone knows, it'll be 'The Fall of the Ottomans and the Birth of Turkey' (1804-1930. Just so the people who aren't interested in English history can get some content they like too.
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Ted
Except most evidence points to the two princes having been spirited off by Lancastrian loyalists. Once Henry VII united the kingdom, there was no need for those pesky princes who then promptly came down with a case of the murders.
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Except most evidence points to the two princes having been spirited off by Lancastrian loyalists. Once Henry VII united the kingdom, there was no need for those pesky princes who then promptly came down with a case of the murders.
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Michael
Mr. suggestions tonight, but I would also love to see that the maps have the names of capitals and big cities both related to the content and semi zoomed out, eg. Paris but nothing else in france as they are not topical
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Mr. suggestions tonight, but I would also love to see that the maps have the names of capitals and big cities both related to the content and semi zoomed out, eg. Paris but nothing else in france as they are not topical
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VitZ9
Game of Thrones for people who don't study history: Wow, that sure was a fun show. Little bit confusing though.
GoT for people who studied the War of the Roses: Oh. My. God! It's happening again!
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Game of Thrones for people who don't study history: Wow, that sure was a fun show. Little bit confusing though.
GoT for people who studied the War of the Roses: Oh. My. God! It's happening again!
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Scott
You know, this might be my favorite Henry. Hes has a good mentality, trying to keep everyone from killing each other, but theyre just intent on slaughtering each other.
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You know, this might be my favorite Henry. Hes has a good mentality, trying to keep everyone from killing each other, but theyre just intent on slaughtering each other.
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Seor
The Wars of the Roses: a bunch of Lego men fought over some incomprehensible poppycock, some fell down and I had a brain meltdown and checked out of history of England.
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The Wars of the Roses: a bunch of Lego men fought over some incomprehensible poppycock, some fell down and I had a brain meltdown and checked out of history of England.
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Adumb
The story of how England wiped out its entire royal dynasty through years of infighting only to stick a Welshman on the throne because there was nobody left alive.
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The story of how England wiped out its entire royal dynasty through years of infighting only to stick a Welshman on the throne because there was nobody left alive.
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Taylor
If you all want to understand this better I highly recommend the show The White Queen! Amazing series, only 10 episodes and you wont be left confused: )
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If you all want to understand this better I highly recommend the show The White Queen! Amazing series, only 10 episodes and you wont be left confused: )
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Deep
They tell us of
The Surrender of Maine
Where among the possible options, they went with
We will not surrender an inch of territory to the French!
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They tell us of
The Surrender of Maine
Where among the possible options, they went with
We will not surrender an inch of territory to the French!
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David
At the time it was known as the cousins war. The war of the roses was applied much later.
I loved the comment - a bas case of the murders. Brilliant
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At the time it was known as the cousins war. The war of the roses was applied much later.
I loved the comment - a bas case of the murders. Brilliant
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Joseph
I think the bloodiest battle for England was queen Boudica vs the Roman's. I mean it was before the formation of England but it was on England soil.
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I think the bloodiest battle for England was queen Boudica vs the Roman's. I mean it was before the formation of England but it was on England soil.
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Octavio
Watched Lucky Star on a whim and a throw-away line explained the War of the Roses as getting it's name from the roses on the soldiers' uniforms
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Watched Lucky Star on a whim and a throw-away line explained the War of the Roses as getting it's name from the roses on the soldiers' uniforms
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clinton
Fun fact. You can still see the mark the house of Lancaster had on the British in America. Lancaster Pennsylvania is the red rose city.
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Fun fact. You can still see the mark the house of Lancaster had on the British in America. Lancaster Pennsylvania is the red rose city.
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jigi
So basically French invaded England twice, in 1470 and 1485, both time defeating the opponents and giving the crown to their candidate.
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So basically French invaded England twice, in 1470 and 1485, both time defeating the opponents and giving the crown to their candidate.
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Philip
Sixth is pronounced six-th the six sounds like six usually sounds. The th is how it usually sounds. It is NOT pronounced as sickth.
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Sixth is pronounced six-th the six sounds like six usually sounds. The th is how it usually sounds. It is NOT pronounced as sickth.
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Unohdettu
The people of the south of England were supporters of those from York? Well, that's certainly changed in the centuries since.
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The people of the south of England were supporters of those from York? Well, that's certainly changed in the centuries since.
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