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Ten Minute History - World War 2: Free and Vichy France Short Documentary

Ten Minute History - World War 2: Free and Vichy France Short Documentary

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Ten Minute History - World War 2: Free and Vichy France Short Documentary DavidB5501: After the German defeat of France, Britain offered France at least 5 options to avoid action by the Royal Navy against the French fleet at anchor: join Britain to continue fighting Germany; sail the ships to British ports and hand them over; sail them to the French Caribbean; sail them to the United States (then still neutral); or scuttle them. The French refused all these options, promising only that they would not let Germany take over the fleet. For Britain to accept this they would (a) have to trust the French to keep their word; and (b) trust the Germans to abide by their Armistice agreement with France. As neither (a) nor (b) could be relied on, Britain had no viable alternative to opening fire on the fleet, which in German hands would have made a huge difference to the balance of naval advantage. Also, the French had been given ample time to get their crews to safety, and the ultimatum was extended several times. Even after the British fleet had opened fire, they ceased fire to give the French commanders time to reconsider, which in fact enabled some of the French ships to escape.
Date: 2022-07-19

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Fun Fact: After WW2 and the foundation of the UN and the Security Council, France was initially not allowed to be one of its permanent members, only USA, UK, China and USSR. The problem was that after WW2, China resumed its Civil War and when it became certain that the communist side was going to win and take over China, USA and UK let France become a member so that there would be 3 capitalist/western powers (France, UK and USA) vs only 2 communist/eastern ones (USSR and China.
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The way you describe the invasion of Vichy France by the axis in november 1942 is a bit misleading: the axis invasion was an immediate response to the invasion of northern Africa (Marocco, Algeria) by the allies (US and British empire. It did not come out of nowhere, as several French officials (civil and military) cooperated with the allies and joined them in the fight against the axis troops there.
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i cant BELIEVE how terrible the art n animation is
like not even just stylistically
but like
having a char waddle in holding a sign w a few words, then the next shot is the same thing, then again, then like 7 of the last 15 shots have been that exact same thing
its actually fkn UNBELIEVABLE how bad it is
shameful
shameful

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When someone asks why I hate pacifists,
This this is why.
Diplomacy will only get you so far, and as weve seen time and time again it doesnt suddenly make dictators say you know what, conquering isnt cool
There is a time and a place, but when the shit hits the fan pacifists need to step down

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The government of France could not get their shit together like their military. Old ideal's of the WWI were still in the minds of the old generals. Attack of maneuver and speed the Germans were good at and combat veterans. Communication radio's were standard equipment in the Wehrmacht armored units.
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Fun fact: if you go to French town halls or government buildings, often there will be portraits of the various French leaders of the past. That is, until 1940, when there is big hole until 1945. As if these years did not exist
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Their last act wasn't scuttling their fleet. It was the Vichy French Milice and other Vichy honor guard and paramilitaries fighting in Paris, etc. against any Free French and French Resistance forces between 1943 and 1944.
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Fench politics have always been a dumpster fire15 different constitutions, leaders coming and going, 3 revolutions, several instances of coming close to revolutions, the farce of dealing with Moustache Mans expansion fetish
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French Resistance is so overrated by cinema. It only really started to matter in 1941, when the Communist joined the fight and it only became relevant in 1943-1944 when the Allies started to close in on Germany.
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Got to love people, we want higher wages and better working conditions, oh actually, dont mind the wage rise and better working conditions, Ive been told it opens the door to communism. Ill just suffer in silence
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They still argue today over how much of the liberation of France was a French one? Lmao
Spoiler alert: not a whole lot.
If you broke it down into a pie chart, Id say France might make up 15% - 20% tops.

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Any reason why you didn't give any time to talking about the fact Nazi occupied AND Vichy (free) France also were highly involved in the ousting and deporting of their Jewish population?
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1/3 of the entire evacuation of troops were French we didnt leave them all behind but we wanted to get our own men out first, 100k French out of 140k French troops were saved that day
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You have all the elements of proof that the French were not defeated by the German army but rather by neo fascist elements in the military and government that hated anything progressive.
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You explained quite well why a lot in France DO NOT like the movie Dunkerque.
I live there right now and can tell you, Britains backstabbing habits are quite despised.

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Could you please do a video on the triple alliance in south America between Paraguay, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, it would be a good one to investigate and look into
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The French were collaborators with Germany for most of the war, France. For all intents and purposes they should be considered part of the Axis, same with Finland.
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THANK YOU! This was the most honest and truthful recounting of France during World War II including Britain's sneak attack on the French Navy.
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Another world war isnt worth it, we all know that but well still defend ourselves
The english lets tell everyone they are surrender monkeys

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