The Anglo German Naval Arms Race Documentary
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Date: 2022-07-19
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Zachary
A lot of stuff has come out around the 100th anniversary of WW1. More contradictions appear. Germany was considered an important trading partner with Britain, and peace with Germany (after some maneuvering) was seen as an achievable and desirable goal, not least of which because, you know, France. Germany was a land power that was positioned to compliment Britain's strengths and Britain stopped them from being a threat at sea for at least a while (when war did come, Germany tried to blast a land path since Britain could and did veto their sea movement, and they were genuinely surprised that Britain cared about them moving thru Belgium. It was a good time for peace and trade with Germany. Really, a perfect storm had to happen for Britain and Germany to end up on opposite sides of any serious continental conflict (sure maybe they'd spar over colonies, but that's worlds apart from a European land war)
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A lot of stuff has come out around the 100th anniversary of WW1. More contradictions appear. Germany was considered an important trading partner with Britain, and peace with Germany (after some maneuvering) was seen as an achievable and desirable goal, not least of which because, you know, France. Germany was a land power that was positioned to compliment Britain's strengths and Britain stopped them from being a threat at sea for at least a while (when war did come, Germany tried to blast a land path since Britain could and did veto their sea movement, and they were genuinely surprised that Britain cared about them moving thru Belgium. It was a good time for peace and trade with Germany. Really, a perfect storm had to happen for Britain and Germany to end up on opposite sides of any serious continental conflict (sure maybe they'd spar over colonies, but that's worlds apart from a European land war)
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puppet23ca
I remember going over this in history class and my proff wanted to outline the kaiser's reasoning behind the naval arms race because in hindsight it does look like preparation for major war but My proff insisted that the kaiser's main reasoning for the buildup after Satifying his jealousy of the british fleet and his own egomaniacal flair for dramatic was to turn his new fleet towards Africa and maybe try to claim some territory there(which most of europe had done at that point anyway) its a shame because this buildup arguably made the first world war that much more destructive
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I remember going over this in history class and my proff wanted to outline the kaiser's reasoning behind the naval arms race because in hindsight it does look like preparation for major war but My proff insisted that the kaiser's main reasoning for the buildup after Satifying his jealousy of the british fleet and his own egomaniacal flair for dramatic was to turn his new fleet towards Africa and maybe try to claim some territory there(which most of europe had done at that point anyway) its a shame because this buildup arguably made the first world war that much more destructive
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Der
The initial german buildup before 1906 could be easily considered as natural for a recent country with extremely limited naval traditions. However, when the Dreadnought appeared, it was obvious that Germany had other intentions in mind when they entered the new game - that was, to compete clearly with Britain. Perhaps the strongest cause for the Great War was growing more and more with each new dreadnought-type battleship being launched in both sides of the North Sea.
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The initial german buildup before 1906 could be easily considered as natural for a recent country with extremely limited naval traditions. However, when the Dreadnought appeared, it was obvious that Germany had other intentions in mind when they entered the new game - that was, to compete clearly with Britain. Perhaps the strongest cause for the Great War was growing more and more with each new dreadnought-type battleship being launched in both sides of the North Sea.
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Jeff
British shipyards perfected the production of battleships and could build them for less than half the cost of German yards. They could also build them faster and had more shipyards doing so. It was almost assembly line type manufacturing versus custom builds. It would be very difficult and ruinously expensive for Germany to win such an arms race.
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British shipyards perfected the production of battleships and could build them for less than half the cost of German yards. They could also build them faster and had more shipyards doing so. It was almost assembly line type manufacturing versus custom builds. It would be very difficult and ruinously expensive for Germany to win such an arms race.
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Conor
German shouldve just ordered 1000 ships, and get the British to Bankrupt themselves. Youre not allowed to have as many ships as us, but you do? Yeah but were allowed to, why? We have a big empire to patrol, but we want an empire to, no, empire building is bad, if you do that, you are the bad guy, our empire is a good empire.
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German shouldve just ordered 1000 ships, and get the British to Bankrupt themselves. Youre not allowed to have as many ships as us, but you do? Yeah but were allowed to, why? We have a big empire to patrol, but we want an empire to, no, empire building is bad, if you do that, you are the bad guy, our empire is a good empire.
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VersusARCH
Tirpitz: loses the race, prompts Britain to join the Entente, supports the unrestricted submarine warfare which helps US to also join the Entente. Germany names the largest ever battleship after him.
Fisher: wins the race, ensures Entente victory in WW1. Britain gives no sh1t
Go figure.
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Tirpitz: loses the race, prompts Britain to join the Entente, supports the unrestricted submarine warfare which helps US to also join the Entente. Germany names the largest ever battleship after him.
Fisher: wins the race, ensures Entente victory in WW1. Britain gives no sh1t
Go figure.
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Arcantis
I dont Unserstand why Evervy major Power was alwas denieind Germany some Progress.
IT even made france and britain allies. man German must be hated.
Still today Germany is the milked cow in the EU paying the Most bullied the Most.
Sometimes i Wish we would have won all wws
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I dont Unserstand why Evervy major Power was alwas denieind Germany some Progress.
IT even made france and britain allies. man German must be hated.
Still today Germany is the milked cow in the EU paying the Most bullied the Most.
Sometimes i Wish we would have won all wws
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Doktor
Its very important for british propaganda to blame Germany for that arms race and Britains hostile attitude towards Germany. Small but important fact: already in in 1898 Brits threatened Germany with war just in case anyone would even thing to help the Dutch in the second boers war.
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Its very important for british propaganda to blame Germany for that arms race and Britains hostile attitude towards Germany. Small but important fact: already in in 1898 Brits threatened Germany with war just in case anyone would even thing to help the Dutch in the second boers war.
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Deored
Britain: Builds 2 dreadnoughts for every 1 Germany ordered
Germany: Orders 1000 Dreadnoughts
Britain: Builds 2000 Dreadnoughts, has no money left for food and fuel
Germany: Cancels orders and takes over Britain
Germany: STONKS!
Yes, this is dumb and would never work
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Britain: Builds 2 dreadnoughts for every 1 Germany ordered
Germany: Orders 1000 Dreadnoughts
Britain: Builds 2000 Dreadnoughts, has no money left for food and fuel
Germany: Cancels orders and takes over Britain
Germany: STONKS!
Yes, this is dumb and would never work
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education
The British and the French have a love hate relationship but when it comes to it we will back each other we have such an entrenched history with France Norway Denmark and obviously the US, Canada and Australia this should be the alliance of all alliances
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The British and the French have a love hate relationship but when it comes to it we will back each other we have such an entrenched history with France Norway Denmark and obviously the US, Canada and Australia this should be the alliance of all alliances
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education
Anglo = of the Angles.
England is of the Angles.
Scotland, Wales, Ireland are not Anglo nations.
Please change your terminology when referring to the UK especially as much of these ships will have been built in Belfast and on the Clyde
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Anglo = of the Angles.
England is of the Angles.
Scotland, Wales, Ireland are not Anglo nations.
Please change your terminology when referring to the UK especially as much of these ships will have been built in Belfast and on the Clyde
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Kompatybilijny
Britain: We have a ship for every ship of the second and third greatest naval power combined.
Fourth, fifth and sixth naval powers: Ally with each other and have more ships than Britain.
Britain: Wait, that's illegal.
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Britain: We have a ship for every ship of the second and third greatest naval power combined.
Fourth, fifth and sixth naval powers: Ally with each other and have more ships than Britain.
Britain: Wait, that's illegal.
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Vollification
UK and France had spend the better part of a 1000 years at war or preparing for war with one another but become best bros as soon as Germans started talking loudly.
Can't blame them, Germans are just that scary XD
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UK and France had spend the better part of a 1000 years at war or preparing for war with one another but become best bros as soon as Germans started talking loudly.
Can't blame them, Germans are just that scary XD
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Sanjit
Funny how this mirrors the cold war, uk/america created the first dreadnaught/nuke and then germany/soviet union created dreadnaughts/nukes in retaliation. Thankfully the cold war did not end with an all out war.
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Funny how this mirrors the cold war, uk/america created the first dreadnaught/nuke and then germany/soviet union created dreadnaughts/nukes in retaliation. Thankfully the cold war did not end with an all out war.
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Shiro
The Dreadnaught is actually what allowed the naval arm's race to become so heated because it also rendered most of the RN capital ships obsolete, artificially creating parity between the various naval powers.
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The Dreadnaught is actually what allowed the naval arm's race to become so heated because it also rendered most of the RN capital ships obsolete, artificially creating parity between the various naval powers.
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Balzs
I love how silly history can be sometimes.
Like imagine it, some dude in the brittish parlament smooking weed said: What if we built like a REALLLY big ship?
And changed the world forever.
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I love how silly history can be sometimes.
Like imagine it, some dude in the brittish parlament smooking weed said: What if we built like a REALLLY big ship?
And changed the world forever.
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Aleric13
As an english man i never knew the french had a specific insult for the British.
And the fact that this is derived from the British love of roast beef has me in stiches.
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As an english man i never knew the french had a specific insult for the British.
And the fact that this is derived from the British love of roast beef has me in stiches.
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Vincenzo
Fun fact: de dreadnought was projected for the italian navy but the government refused so the guy who projected the ship presented the project in a british newspaper
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Fun fact: de dreadnought was projected for the italian navy but the government refused so the guy who projected the ship presented the project in a british newspaper
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Ben
For every dreadnaught you build, we will build 2.
The mart thing for Germany to do here would be to simply keep building dreadnaughts until Britain bankrupted itself.
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For every dreadnaught you build, we will build 2.
The mart thing for Germany to do here would be to simply keep building dreadnaughts until Britain bankrupted itself.
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