Why did Austria / Austria-Hungary decline
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While it's good that the other nationalities of the Empire gained nationhood and could decide more for themselves, overall considering what happened to Central Europe during and after WWI. idk, a multi-ethnic United States kinda state seems preferable to these interesting times.
Date: 2024-02-22
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history_matters
You did a good job highlighting why Austria fell apart, but I think you could have highlighted Franz Josefs incompetence more. After the revolution he brought many things back to what it was before the revolution. He neglected military inovations, since he needed the money to bribe the nobility, but in the same time, the government failed on the diplomatic side, which was the backbone of past habsburg diplomacy.
In summary: He developed a large military force while lacking behind in technology because of military innovations getting hold back, everything while they completely messed up their diplomacy.
I know you can't make Franz Joseph responsible for all of that, but since he established a neo absolutist state, he held a good portion of the power for himself.
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You did a good job highlighting why Austria fell apart, but I think you could have highlighted Franz Josefs incompetence more. After the revolution he brought many things back to what it was before the revolution. He neglected military inovations, since he needed the money to bribe the nobility, but in the same time, the government failed on the diplomatic side, which was the backbone of past habsburg diplomacy.
In summary: He developed a large military force while lacking behind in technology because of military innovations getting hold back, everything while they completely messed up their diplomacy.
I know you can't make Franz Joseph responsible for all of that, but since he established a neo absolutist state, he held a good portion of the power for himself.
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Sebasstiano
Austria never really recovered economically from the Napoleonic Wars. Between 1815-1848, around 30% of the entire state revenue, year on year was spent on paying interest on the tremendous debt racked up betwen 1813-1815, and only in a single year during that period (1829) did the state budget record a (small) surplus. For comparison, the army’s entire budget during the 1840s was around 40% of yearly state revenue. This is while at peace with chronic supply shortages and dire wages for both officers and soliders. State deficit of course, had to be met with more loans which only added to the debt burden. You can imagine what would happen to the Austrian budget if the government had to actually finance a mobilised army on campaign.
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Austria never really recovered economically from the Napoleonic Wars. Between 1815-1848, around 30% of the entire state revenue, year on year was spent on paying interest on the tremendous debt racked up betwen 1813-1815, and only in a single year during that period (1829) did the state budget record a (small) surplus. For comparison, the army’s entire budget during the 1840s was around 40% of yearly state revenue. This is while at peace with chronic supply shortages and dire wages for both officers and soliders. State deficit of course, had to be met with more loans which only added to the debt burden. You can imagine what would happen to the Austrian budget if the government had to actually finance a mobilised army on campaign.
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nicksonofmine
Unfortunately, Austria and Hungary are now, in the EU and NATO, basically, the same outsiders within central Europe. Neither have learned anything from their past and are just playing the same game.
Even worse, orban's Hungary forgot about their long-time soviet occupation, and nehammer Austria, basically, forgot that they current wellbeing is that they were not occupied by the soviets. Two nations that are caught in an idealistic past and a amnezic present.
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Unfortunately, Austria and Hungary are now, in the EU and NATO, basically, the same outsiders within central Europe. Neither have learned anything from their past and are just playing the same game.
Even worse, orban's Hungary forgot about their long-time soviet occupation, and nehammer Austria, basically, forgot that they current wellbeing is that they were not occupied by the soviets. Two nations that are caught in an idealistic past and a amnezic present.
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V0yt3k
The Austrian Empire was essentially just a bunch of guys who hated each other in a room together lead by one guy that everyone else hates but couldn’t do anything about since he had a big stick. Eventually one of the other guys was given a small that that he used to wack the guy with a big stick, it didn’t go much but overtime got really annoying. Eventually the sticks break and all hell breaks loose.
The end.
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The Austrian Empire was essentially just a bunch of guys who hated each other in a room together lead by one guy that everyone else hates but couldn’t do anything about since he had a big stick. Eventually one of the other guys was given a small that that he used to wack the guy with a big stick, it didn’t go much but overtime got really annoying. Eventually the sticks break and all hell breaks loose.
The end.
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MaanTy-qm7lk
Basically it collapsed because of its ethnic groups it's different and more chaotic and since the french revolution many revolution or coup d'etat plans began spreading and since the habsburg empire is the most affected here and it got them collapsed ww1 was a big toll in their collapsible stock and it could never had collapsed if they didn't declared war on Serbia which became a domino effect
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Basically it collapsed because of its ethnic groups it's different and more chaotic and since the french revolution many revolution or coup d'etat plans began spreading and since the habsburg empire is the most affected here and it got them collapsed ww1 was a big toll in their collapsible stock and it could never had collapsed if they didn't declared war on Serbia which became a domino effect
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RandomGuy-xq5ku
I learned about WW2 before WW1 so when I first learned about WW1 and heard that 'Austria' was one of the belligerents I was like Woah isn't that the small country Germany anchlussed. Then I found out about the very long history of the Habsburgs, how Austria was once huge, their beef with the Ottomans, etc
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I learned about WW2 before WW1 so when I first learned about WW1 and heard that 'Austria' was one of the belligerents I was like Woah isn't that the small country Germany anchlussed. Then I found out about the very long history of the Habsburgs, how Austria was once huge, their beef with the Ottomans, etc
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bencekiss1666
As a hungarian, I wish our ancestors weren't blinded by greed and nationalism and instead cooperated with the Habsburgs. Being part of a prosperous and influencial multi-ethnic federation seems way better, then having a small backwater nationstate.
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As a hungarian, I wish our ancestors weren't blinded by greed and nationalism and instead cooperated with the Habsburgs. Being part of a prosperous and influencial multi-ethnic federation seems way better, then having a small backwater nationstate.
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Iason29
Austria should have never decentralised, it's ironic it's almost like the former Holy roman empire collapsed for the same reason the Roman Empire did. One of the main reasons the Romans declined was when their empire was also split in half.
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Austria should have never decentralised, it's ironic it's almost like the former Holy roman empire collapsed for the same reason the Roman Empire did. One of the main reasons the Romans declined was when their empire was also split in half.
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caos1925
I don't think it was even all that great during the napoleon wars, and even going back to the great northern war, it kept losing all the time but had good allies politics and a large population, but it was never good at war, or invention.
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I don't think it was even all that great during the napoleon wars, and even going back to the great northern war, it kept losing all the time but had good allies politics and a large population, but it was never good at war, or invention.
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history_matters
They also pissed off half of Europe by annexing Bosnia wothout compensating nearby powers, and refused to give venetian regions to Italy thus pushing the italians in the arms of the Entente (didn't go really well for either)
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They also pissed off half of Europe by annexing Bosnia wothout compensating nearby powers, and refused to give venetian regions to Italy thus pushing the italians in the arms of the Entente (didn't go really well for either)
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mfaizsyahmi
Thanks. This shed light on the context in which Hungary lost a lot of its land. They sabotaged the empire's attempts to modernize and keep up with their continental neighbours and thus brought about their own demise.
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Thanks. This shed light on the context in which Hungary lost a lot of its land. They sabotaged the empire's attempts to modernize and keep up with their continental neighbours and thus brought about their own demise.
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pathutchison7688
There’s a massive academic debate going on right now, that Austria could have prospered had it not been for the actions of Spinning Three Plates. Not even The McWhopper could save the situation after that.
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There’s a massive academic debate going on right now, that Austria could have prospered had it not been for the actions of Spinning Three Plates. Not even The McWhopper could save the situation after that.
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history_matters
The Austrians made a deal with the devil: the hungarian nobility, who continuously crippled their own nation so they can remain in power.
No wonder they would do the same to Austria once they could.
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The Austrians made a deal with the devil: the hungarian nobility, who continuously crippled their own nation so they can remain in power.
No wonder they would do the same to Austria once they could.
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untendohd1377
Video ideas:
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Video ideas:
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MarcusAgrippa390
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Holy crap!
Over 4 minutes of History Matters
I love long form videos!
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The following comment contains a poorly written attempt at humor.
Holy crap!
Over 4 minutes of History Matters
I love long form videos!
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startrekker4596
Saw a screenshot on twitter the other day that read:
Drinking game, put on an audiobook on the history of Austria-Hungary and take a shot every time the Hungarians block a promising reform
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Saw a screenshot on twitter the other day that read:
Drinking game, put on an audiobook on the history of Austria-Hungary and take a shot every time the Hungarians block a promising reform
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Ben--Nay
If we can draw comparaison between this period and modern times its that you should never give hungarian power in an alliance as they will do everything they can to ruin your chance of sucess.
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If we can draw comparaison between this period and modern times its that you should never give hungarian power in an alliance as they will do everything they can to ruin your chance of sucess.
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kevincronk7981
It also doesn't help that Hungary didn't want to join ww1 at all, but bore more of the brunt than Austria, which didn't exactly encourage loyalty. Also congrats on getting to trending.
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It also doesn't help that Hungary didn't want to join ww1 at all, but bore more of the brunt than Austria, which didn't exactly encourage loyalty. Also congrats on getting to trending.
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nn91idk.
funny thing about the assassination
Franz Ferdinand’s last words to his wife was Don’t die, live for our children before promptly dying and an hour later after he died, his wife died
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funny thing about the assassination
Franz Ferdinand’s last words to his wife was Don’t die, live for our children before promptly dying and an hour later after he died, his wife died
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