Why did the Philippines keep its Spanish name? Documentary
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Date: 2022-07-19
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madumlao
Perhaps a missing aspect in this is that the Western notion of declaring independence through a complete denunciation of oppressive roots makes no sense in the heart and mind of the average Filipino, who has, to put it mildly, much stronger family / ancestral ties. A linguistic illustration might be that if the French and Germans were to adopt a new word, they would probably invent a French or German term for it; Filipinos adopt the word in its entirety. Emancipation is not gained through erasure and domination, as is the common Western fantasy, but through absorption and growth. As another lingguistic example, it would not be confusing for an average Filipino speaker if I were to say this entire comment is Taglish despite following primarily English grammar and syntax just because _meron namang tagalog_. This is because rather than being dominated by them, the Filipino identity _subsumes_ its roots, making the deletion and distinguishment from the past, the Western, and especially American tradition, pointless.
In other words, The Philippines is not a Spanish name, nor is it an English name. It is a Filipino name.
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Perhaps a missing aspect in this is that the Western notion of declaring independence through a complete denunciation of oppressive roots makes no sense in the heart and mind of the average Filipino, who has, to put it mildly, much stronger family / ancestral ties. A linguistic illustration might be that if the French and Germans were to adopt a new word, they would probably invent a French or German term for it; Filipinos adopt the word in its entirety. Emancipation is not gained through erasure and domination, as is the common Western fantasy, but through absorption and growth. As another lingguistic example, it would not be confusing for an average Filipino speaker if I were to say this entire comment is Taglish despite following primarily English grammar and syntax just because _meron namang tagalog_. This is because rather than being dominated by them, the Filipino identity _subsumes_ its roots, making the deletion and distinguishment from the past, the Western, and especially American tradition, pointless.
In other words, The Philippines is not a Spanish name, nor is it an English name. It is a Filipino name.
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Frederick
Other suggested names:
1. Perlandia - from Perlas ng Silanganan from our national anthem. Citizens: Perlandians (Perlandiano/Perlandiana.
2. MIRENA - an acronym (Ma-yi Inter-island REpublican NAtion. Citizens: Mirenese (Mireyo, Mireya.
FYI: Ma-yi was a name given to us by the Sung Chinese in 1225. The Chinese did not colonize us, so it was literally a pre-colonial name. The M in MIRENA can have a different meaning depending on one's preference. It could mean Malaya or Multi-cultural.
I do not agree with Maharlika because it is a feudal warrior class. Its like changing Japan's name into Samurai or Sweden's name into Viking. Luzviminda doesn't roll off the tongue quite easily for foreigners, so it is not the best international name. Maybe keep it as a local name.
Plus, it sounds awkward to call its citizens Luzvimindiano, Luzvimindiana. It sounds too long. It is the same thing with Saribayan.
Rizalia is problematic because Rizal only wanted the country to remain a province of Spain.
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Other suggested names:
1. Perlandia - from Perlas ng Silanganan from our national anthem. Citizens: Perlandians (Perlandiano/Perlandiana.
2. MIRENA - an acronym (Ma-yi Inter-island REpublican NAtion. Citizens: Mirenese (Mireyo, Mireya.
FYI: Ma-yi was a name given to us by the Sung Chinese in 1225. The Chinese did not colonize us, so it was literally a pre-colonial name. The M in MIRENA can have a different meaning depending on one's preference. It could mean Malaya or Multi-cultural.
I do not agree with Maharlika because it is a feudal warrior class. Its like changing Japan's name into Samurai or Sweden's name into Viking. Luzviminda doesn't roll off the tongue quite easily for foreigners, so it is not the best international name. Maybe keep it as a local name.
Plus, it sounds awkward to call its citizens Luzvimindiano, Luzvimindiana. It sounds too long. It is the same thing with Saribayan.
Rizalia is problematic because Rizal only wanted the country to remain a province of Spain.
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Bribridude130
1: 44 An obvious fourth reason for why Filipinos opted for independence from the US instead of statehood is the Philippines did not or never had an English-speaking Anglo-American Protestant majority. With the societal attitudes of the 1940s, incorporating a territory inhabited by predominantly Asian Catholics and not whites as a full US state would have been extremely controversial. Today, the Philippines has 109. 6 million people, and the US has 329. 5 million people. Can you imagine the Philippines alone being one quarter of the entire US population and 1/4 of all seats in the US congress?
2: 11 Another proposed native Tagalog name to replace the Spanish-derived Philippines is Maharlika, named after the feudal warrior class in ancient Tagalog society in Luzon.
2: 56 The one that Equally offended everyone. This is the most based thing HistoryMatters has said, and a stand against political correctness.
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1: 44 An obvious fourth reason for why Filipinos opted for independence from the US instead of statehood is the Philippines did not or never had an English-speaking Anglo-American Protestant majority. With the societal attitudes of the 1940s, incorporating a territory inhabited by predominantly Asian Catholics and not whites as a full US state would have been extremely controversial. Today, the Philippines has 109. 6 million people, and the US has 329. 5 million people. Can you imagine the Philippines alone being one quarter of the entire US population and 1/4 of all seats in the US congress?
2: 11 Another proposed native Tagalog name to replace the Spanish-derived Philippines is Maharlika, named after the feudal warrior class in ancient Tagalog society in Luzon.
2: 56 The one that Equally offended everyone. This is the most based thing HistoryMatters has said, and a stand against political correctness.
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Thecommander248
Fun fact, Filipinos actually love America more than many Americans do and they have very little problem with gay men. In fact, I have been hit on by several Filipino men. Unfortunately, this acceptance of gays actually leads to some nasty issues as gay men will often hit on American military personnel who don't realize that they are men. This had led to some US personnel killing Filipinos out of homophobia. Another interesting fact is that the Philippines will keep you in prison and allow you freedom if you get a college degree and then help support the country. This has led to situations where (former) US service members will become more educated because they killed someone.
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Fun fact, Filipinos actually love America more than many Americans do and they have very little problem with gay men. In fact, I have been hit on by several Filipino men. Unfortunately, this acceptance of gays actually leads to some nasty issues as gay men will often hit on American military personnel who don't realize that they are men. This had led to some US personnel killing Filipinos out of homophobia. Another interesting fact is that the Philippines will keep you in prison and allow you freedom if you get a college degree and then help support the country. This has led to situations where (former) US service members will become more educated because they killed someone.
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genesis6d7
As a Filipino I fully agree of the name change. First, King Philip was a disaster after Queen Elizabeth I defeated his armada. Second, Spain did not care about making its colony prosperous. Prosperity happened when USA took over. Lastly, the name has nothing to do with my pre colonial ancestors who were too friendly to shelter and give food to the conquistadors. Maharlika was proposed in the 70s but did not happen. Im a Maharlikan (and Filipino.
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As a Filipino I fully agree of the name change. First, King Philip was a disaster after Queen Elizabeth I defeated his armada. Second, Spain did not care about making its colony prosperous. Prosperity happened when USA took over. Lastly, the name has nothing to do with my pre colonial ancestors who were too friendly to shelter and give food to the conquistadors. Maharlika was proposed in the 70s but did not happen. Im a Maharlikan (and Filipino.
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Torian
Philippines is a beautiful country, i went threre 10 years ago and visited a few islands and still cant forget how beatiful the countryside is. It was also very interesting to heard people speaking tagalog and the hight amount of words that sound similiar to spanish. Overall a very beautiful country and one of those rare cases where even if there's a big culture gap you can feel like you are at home just by how welcoming and kind everyone is.
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Philippines is a beautiful country, i went threre 10 years ago and visited a few islands and still cant forget how beatiful the countryside is. It was also very interesting to heard people speaking tagalog and the hight amount of words that sound similiar to spanish. Overall a very beautiful country and one of those rare cases where even if there's a big culture gap you can feel like you are at home just by how welcoming and kind everyone is.
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Jamil
After watching this video and learned that Rizal is a controversial character, I was surprised. EVEN MORE so, after hearing what you just said of what he actually wants, I had to repeat what you said and thought of myself if I'm hearing that right. I'm absolutely shocked.
However it's no surprise to me that there's little to no unity in my country considering we were just different tribes, originally. Even now.
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After watching this video and learned that Rizal is a controversial character, I was surprised. EVEN MORE so, after hearing what you just said of what he actually wants, I had to repeat what you said and thought of myself if I'm hearing that right. I'm absolutely shocked.
However it's no surprise to me that there's little to no unity in my country considering we were just different tribes, originally. Even now.
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ANonsenseContent
I like to think they kept the name because with so much things the PH has already seen, naming an already broken down country (metaphor) wouldn't be good, and it would be hard to rename the country from 333 years of Spanish occupation.
(basically it's like african-american slaves kills all white people in america but can't decide a new name so they just stuck with america)
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I like to think they kept the name because with so much things the PH has already seen, naming an already broken down country (metaphor) wouldn't be good, and it would be hard to rename the country from 333 years of Spanish occupation.
(basically it's like african-american slaves kills all white people in america but can't decide a new name so they just stuck with america)
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Frederick
I do not agree with naming our country Maharlika because it is a feudal warrior class. Its like changing Japan's name into Samurai or Sweden's name into Viking. Luzviminda doesn't roll off the tongue quite easily for foreigners, so it is not the best international name.
Plus, it sounds awkward to call its citizens Luzvimindiano and Luzvimindiana. It sounds too long.
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I do not agree with naming our country Maharlika because it is a feudal warrior class. Its like changing Japan's name into Samurai or Sweden's name into Viking. Luzviminda doesn't roll off the tongue quite easily for foreigners, so it is not the best international name.
Plus, it sounds awkward to call its citizens Luzvimindiano and Luzvimindiana. It sounds too long.
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Kurt
Actually, the Spaniards were losing to the Philippine Independence Movement at that time and they took their war with the USA as an opportunity to save face its better to lose to a white man than to the colored people as one of a high ranking Spanish officer once said. A mock battle was held in intramuros as a symbol of America defeating the Spanish.
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Actually, the Spaniards were losing to the Philippine Independence Movement at that time and they took their war with the USA as an opportunity to save face its better to lose to a white man than to the colored people as one of a high ranking Spanish officer once said. A mock battle was held in intramuros as a symbol of America defeating the Spanish.
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Kowala
Fun Fact: The Philippines gained its independence from the US in July 4th, 1946 which would've been the same Independence day of the US but its president decides to change the date to June 12, 1898 which it gained it's independence from the Spanish. It would've been interesting to see if both countries have the same independence day.
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Fun Fact: The Philippines gained its independence from the US in July 4th, 1946 which would've been the same Independence day of the US but its president decides to change the date to June 12, 1898 which it gained it's independence from the Spanish. It would've been interesting to see if both countries have the same independence day.
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SIDKICK
i heard the spanish were almost defeated by the filipinos and are holed up in Manila on their last stand when the Americans came, and the spanish made a deal with them to save honor to surrender to them instead of the filipinos surrounding them. they even have a MOCK combat drama to make it look legit.
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i heard the spanish were almost defeated by the filipinos and are holed up in Manila on their last stand when the Americans came, and the spanish made a deal with them to save honor to surrender to them instead of the filipinos surrounding them. they even have a MOCK combat drama to make it look legit.
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Palarao
Because opposition dont want it change it also even now Philippines not unite about name Philippines.
We want change it maharlika president Ferdinand want change it but not successful.
Also president d30 he wants also change it t name Philippines.
As of now we are still colonizing past
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Because opposition dont want it change it also even now Philippines not unite about name Philippines.
We want change it maharlika president Ferdinand want change it but not successful.
Also president d30 he wants also change it t name Philippines.
As of now we are still colonizing past
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Snow
Rodrigo Duterte proposed renaming the country to Maharlika but historians and those who knew better balked at it.
And yes, that was the same Philip who tried to court me before. Except he was Catholic and I am Lutheran among other royal court drama, just look that one up, promise. ;)
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Rodrigo Duterte proposed renaming the country to Maharlika but historians and those who knew better balked at it.
And yes, that was the same Philip who tried to court me before. Except he was Catholic and I am Lutheran among other royal court drama, just look that one up, promise. ;)
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Zayne
Filipinos' eternal enemy will always be other Filipinos. This country will never progress since that's just the eternal cycle that's being woven into its very core.
It will be a miracle if those ancient relics of the past can even decide what a good government really is.
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Filipinos' eternal enemy will always be other Filipinos. This country will never progress since that's just the eternal cycle that's being woven into its very core.
It will be a miracle if those ancient relics of the past can even decide what a good government really is.
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Hijo
King Philip was still a prince back then when the archipelago was named Las Filipinas if I am not mistaken.
It somehow matters cause some Filipinos despises King Philip without knowing that he was not even a king back then.
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King Philip was still a prince back then when the archipelago was named Las Filipinas if I am not mistaken.
It somehow matters cause some Filipinos despises King Philip without knowing that he was not even a king back then.
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failsrus96
2: 03 there was also a 4th reason the US didn't want to give the Philippines statehood: that would mean a large population of catholic asians would have influence over US politics, which of course is a big no no back then
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2: 03 there was also a 4th reason the US didn't want to give the Philippines statehood: that would mean a large population of catholic asians would have influence over US politics, which of course is a big no no back then
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MB
I find it funny that people from the Philippines spell their ethnonym with an F instead of the PH of their country and use two Ns for the country but one N for the people. Filipinos are from the Philippines.
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I find it funny that people from the Philippines spell their ethnonym with an F instead of the PH of their country and use two Ns for the country but one N for the people. Filipinos are from the Philippines.
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Corn
Wait, is it just me or the Philippine flag is in the wrong orientation?
Blue should always be on the left side of a vertical Philippine flag during time of peace and the other way around when at war.
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Wait, is it just me or the Philippine flag is in the wrong orientation?
Blue should always be on the left side of a vertical Philippine flag during time of peace and the other way around when at war.
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BloodyPlebs
The United States had no intention on keeping the Philippines. They had a very racist paternalistic mindset, in which they would give the Philippines independence after they had become civilized.
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The United States had no intention on keeping the Philippines. They had a very racist paternalistic mindset, in which they would give the Philippines independence after they had become civilized.
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