
Why couldn't the Romans conquer Scotland?
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Date: 2023-12-16
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-andrew182matches
It was an excellent lesson in -this is our land. - A lot of revisionist and romanticist history writes it off as -Rome got tired of the trouble, - but that's not really true. Britain was rich in precious metals which Rome direly needed. Rome was a greedy machine and wanted every last bit of it. A few more -barbarians- in the way meant nothing to them. Another thing to consider is that much of what Rome integrated into its armies, down to its swords and helmets, was directly copied from Celtic peoples on the mainland. Of course, Rome doesn't credit the Celts with any of that. But seeing these weapons in combat wouldn't be foreign to the Insular Celtic tribes.
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It was an excellent lesson in -this is our land. - A lot of revisionist and romanticist history writes it off as -Rome got tired of the trouble, - but that's not really true. Britain was rich in precious metals which Rome direly needed. Rome was a greedy machine and wanted every last bit of it. A few more -barbarians- in the way meant nothing to them. Another thing to consider is that much of what Rome integrated into its armies, down to its swords and helmets, was directly copied from Celtic peoples on the mainland. Of course, Rome doesn't credit the Celts with any of that. But seeing these weapons in combat wouldn't be foreign to the Insular Celtic tribes.
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knowledgia
I understand the nationalism of the Scots, but history tells us that the Romans defeated the Scots, who weren't really Scots, 3 times. Rome reasoned simply as a businessman thinks, if it is economically convenient, it Romanises and enslaves, on the contrary it makes pleasant, commercial treaties. but what do you think the Iberians, Angles, Carthaginians, Greeks, Egyptians, etc, were less strong than the Scots? Germany was defeated repeatedly, and was not invaded for economic profit. The Romans did nothing if there was no economic profit.
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I understand the nationalism of the Scots, but history tells us that the Romans defeated the Scots, who weren't really Scots, 3 times. Rome reasoned simply as a businessman thinks, if it is economically convenient, it Romanises and enslaves, on the contrary it makes pleasant, commercial treaties. but what do you think the Iberians, Angles, Carthaginians, Greeks, Egyptians, etc, were less strong than the Scots? Germany was defeated repeatedly, and was not invaded for economic profit. The Romans did nothing if there was no economic profit.
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knowledgia
Weird pronunciation Agreekola indeed! Or Domitian, pron. Dominion.
What about Petilius Cerealis' campaigns to subdue the Brigantes of what is now Yorkshire and their immediate neighbours to the north? The Romans coined the phrase -divide and conquer- so could easily have used imperial largesse to split the Britons! The south-east was safe enough in the early second century for Quintus Lucius Sabinianus, the Imperial procurator, to have a have a residence at what is now Inveresk and a fort for his bodyguard, the Ala Sebosiana nearby.
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Weird pronunciation Agreekola indeed! Or Domitian, pron. Dominion.
What about Petilius Cerealis' campaigns to subdue the Brigantes of what is now Yorkshire and their immediate neighbours to the north? The Romans coined the phrase -divide and conquer- so could easily have used imperial largesse to split the Britons! The south-east was safe enough in the early second century for Quintus Lucius Sabinianus, the Imperial procurator, to have a have a residence at what is now Inveresk and a fort for his bodyguard, the Ala Sebosiana nearby.
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-mikeburke1993
At the end of the day, all conquering nations have a limit, a moving border. How and why? Acts 17: 26-27. From one man He made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and He marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. END QUOTE. So, it doesn't matter if you go into your neighbors town or city, eventually, you will be pushed back (by an invisible force. Eventually.
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At the end of the day, all conquering nations have a limit, a moving border. How and why? Acts 17: 26-27. From one man He made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and He marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. END QUOTE. So, it doesn't matter if you go into your neighbors town or city, eventually, you will be pushed back (by an invisible force. Eventually.
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-scottw. 3258
You answer the main question well, then end the video by answering the question incorrectly.
The reason Rome didn't fully conquer Scotland was because it had bigger fish to fry elsewhere. Scotland didn't have enough resources or fertile land to make it worthwhile. Add to that, the Scottish climate and the mountainous terrain. Scotland very simply wasn't worth the hassle.
I say that as a Scot.
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You answer the main question well, then end the video by answering the question incorrectly.
The reason Rome didn't fully conquer Scotland was because it had bigger fish to fry elsewhere. Scotland didn't have enough resources or fertile land to make it worthwhile. Add to that, the Scottish climate and the mountainous terrain. Scotland very simply wasn't worth the hassle.
I say that as a Scot.
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-kingkongchief1177
Scottish celt warriors were nuts in battle. They-d shave all their body hair except mustaches and hair on their heads and paint themselves blue instead of wearing armor. George Martin got inspiration for making the wall in his books from the wall the Romans made between Scotland and England to keep the Scottish celts out of Rome cause that-s how much the Romans feared Scottish celts LMAO.
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Scottish celt warriors were nuts in battle. They-d shave all their body hair except mustaches and hair on their heads and paint themselves blue instead of wearing armor. George Martin got inspiration for making the wall in his books from the wall the Romans made between Scotland and England to keep the Scottish celts out of Rome cause that-s how much the Romans feared Scottish celts LMAO.
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-IanGrant-qj6jp
Mons Graupius, the Battle that never was, was a fairy story compiled by Tacitus to curry favorer for Agricola, his father in law, and for himself. Had the Romans won such a fantastic victory over the superior warriors of Alba, the Legions, their Commanders, and the various battle's locations, would be on record. They are not.
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Mons Graupius, the Battle that never was, was a fairy story compiled by Tacitus to curry favorer for Agricola, his father in law, and for himself. Had the Romans won such a fantastic victory over the superior warriors of Alba, the Legions, their Commanders, and the various battle's locations, would be on record. They are not.
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-mikeburke1993
Conclusion: they couldn't? True. Because Rome was stretched out in every direction. Much like Germany in WW2. You can only have so much resources, time and manpower. Stretching Rome to Brittany, Caladonia, Germania, etc. It was just too much and the rulers of Rome would rather eat grapes and have -o_r_g_x_i_x_s-. Freakshow.
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Conclusion: they couldn't? True. Because Rome was stretched out in every direction. Much like Germany in WW2. You can only have so much resources, time and manpower. Stretching Rome to Brittany, Caladonia, Germania, etc. It was just too much and the rulers of Rome would rather eat grapes and have -o_r_g_x_i_x_s-. Freakshow.
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knowledgia
I think we can finally come to conclusion on what happened to the 9th legion, they did so much in Britannia that those tribes probably had a deep hatred for this legion and they wiped them out whenever they disappeared and probably a few escaped to start a new life but most were slaughtered
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I think we can finally come to conclusion on what happened to the 9th legion, they did so much in Britannia that those tribes probably had a deep hatred for this legion and they wiped them out whenever they disappeared and probably a few escaped to start a new life but most were slaughtered
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-mattmcintosh3939
It's not certain by any means that there was even such a person as Calgacus. The evidence would suggest he was a roman invention, they made up this great chieftain and tactician because they were embarrassed that they couldn't beat a bunch of loosely organised hill tribes.
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It's not certain by any means that there was even such a person as Calgacus. The evidence would suggest he was a roman invention, they made up this great chieftain and tactician because they were embarrassed that they couldn't beat a bunch of loosely organised hill tribes.
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-Mrz-sb1hw
There's very little in Scotland a lot of trees very little gold or silver rotten weather and hostile natives. Guerrilla warfare against the Romans as they would be beaten in open warfare. Bring back Robert the Bruce and William Wallace. And the gods are very hostile.
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There's very little in Scotland a lot of trees very little gold or silver rotten weather and hostile natives. Guerrilla warfare against the Romans as they would be beaten in open warfare. Bring back Robert the Bruce and William Wallace. And the gods are very hostile.
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knowledgia
Your Hadrian's wall is too far north on it's eastern end, it ended at the river Tyne, in your map it is as high as the river Tweed. The Antonine wall wasn't the old border, it was built twenty years after Hadrian's wall, so it is the old border.
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Your Hadrian's wall is too far north on it's eastern end, it ended at the river Tyne, in your map it is as high as the river Tweed. The Antonine wall wasn't the old border, it was built twenty years after Hadrian's wall, so it is the old border.
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-bobg5362
The Romans could and would have taken all of Britain had it been worth it. It didn't have either the natural resources or a high enough potential slave population to justify the loss of blood and treasure it would have cost.
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The Romans could and would have taken all of Britain had it been worth it. It didn't have either the natural resources or a high enough potential slave population to justify the loss of blood and treasure it would have cost.
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-user-hg2ow2em6n
Why does everyone assume Romans wanted to invade and occupy scotland? No one else ever did, not even the English the real issue is them constantly invading the South of England and never leaving!
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Why does everyone assume Romans wanted to invade and occupy scotland? No one else ever did, not even the English the real issue is them constantly invading the South of England and never leaving!
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-AquaFyrre
Quote --- Why couldn't the Romans conquer Scotland?
Answer - they could have & they did up to a certain point.
But beyond a certain distance - it made no economic sense.
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Quote --- Why couldn't the Romans conquer Scotland?
Answer - they could have & they did up to a certain point.
But beyond a certain distance - it made no economic sense.
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-dangleebals6746
Except we all know Rome did fully conquer Scotland, twice there's an awful lot of proof both written and physical with known Roman settlements in the further north islands
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Except we all know Rome did fully conquer Scotland, twice there's an awful lot of proof both written and physical with known Roman settlements in the further north islands
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-cerdic6586
Because, ultimately, it was not worth it. If Rome committed as many forces as it did with the invasion of Dacia, then the Caledonians would have been destroyed eventually.
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Because, ultimately, it was not worth it. If Rome committed as many forces as it did with the invasion of Dacia, then the Caledonians would have been destroyed eventually.
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-harrybuik9763
Scotland has always had hundreds of battalions of midgies the scots were great fighters but the picts were mental in battle, the midgies have never been defeated lol -
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Scotland has always had hundreds of battalions of midgies the scots were great fighters but the picts were mental in battle, the midgies have never been defeated lol -
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-notjustaPASTY
Why did the Romans leave Cornwall/Kernow, and Cornwall leave the Roman Empire after about 50 years of occupation? Why do most maps of the Roman Empire miss this fact?
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Why did the Romans leave Cornwall/Kernow, and Cornwall leave the Roman Empire after about 50 years of occupation? Why do most maps of the Roman Empire miss this fact?
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-philipbell9019
They tried. but just like the Germanic tribes they met a foe far more attuned too fighting than themselves. in other words they got a right good scheme booting.
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They tried. but just like the Germanic tribes they met a foe far more attuned too fighting than themselves. in other words they got a right good scheme booting.
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-dennisfraser6896
If the Romans had said we will swap you a nice warm country for Scotland. With our weather i would have said
You are on pal where is the boat. ---
Boat
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If the Romans had said we will swap you a nice warm country for Scotland. With our weather i would have said
You are on pal where is the boat. ---
Boat
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knowledgia
My relatives, all migrants out of the debtor-s prisons in England, used guerilla warfare techniques during the US Revolutionary War. Scottish atavistic methods.
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My relatives, all migrants out of the debtor-s prisons in England, used guerilla warfare techniques during the US Revolutionary War. Scottish atavistic methods.
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-JS-jh4cy
Well, one factor is too cold to piss outside in the winter months while you tromp around the mud in leather sandals wrapped up in rags around your lower legs
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Well, one factor is too cold to piss outside in the winter months while you tromp around the mud in leather sandals wrapped up in rags around your lower legs
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-ianpodmore9666
The Scots are fearsome warriors and there was nothing of any real strategic importance for them to overstretch their resources for very little gain.
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The Scots are fearsome warriors and there was nothing of any real strategic importance for them to overstretch their resources for very little gain.
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-andyzhang7890
So basically, the Scots are the Viets of Europe- a small funny-accented forested region with a history of spanking invading foreign superpowers
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So basically, the Scots are the Viets of Europe- a small funny-accented forested region with a history of spanking invading foreign superpowers
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-gregorneave253
The Romans shat it! That's how they couldn't conquer us. They tried it n got head butted right oot a scotland! Take that ya roman bawbags
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The Romans shat it! That's how they couldn't conquer us. They tried it n got head butted right oot a scotland! Take that ya roman bawbags
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knowledgia
Fun fact Halifax has a street called Agricola. So I was taken back when I hear there's a Roman general with that name
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Fun fact Halifax has a street called Agricola. So I was taken back when I hear there's a Roman general with that name
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-user-eh5ll4mb2y
Sir, your map of the Roman occupation is wrong, there is no evidence the Romans went passed Killiecrankie.
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Sir, your map of the Roman occupation is wrong, there is no evidence the Romans went passed Killiecrankie.
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-Mrz-sb1hw
Can't we all live in peace, we're hardly on the planet for seventy years everybody should be nice to each other.
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Can't we all live in peace, we're hardly on the planet for seventy years everybody should be nice to each other.
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