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6 Ways Narcissism Can Be Disguised as Altruism

6 Ways Narcissism Can Be Disguised as Altruism

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The single by Taylor Swift, Anti-Hero, has a line that really inspired us. In the song, Taylor sings Did you hear my covert narcissism / I disguise as altruism / Like some kind of congressman / Tale as old as time. Her lyrics got us thinking. Do narcissists disguise their narcissism as kindness? How do they do this, and what can we look out for? Find out more in this video. We also made a video on the things narcissists would say
Date: 2023-08-20

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oh god I got these symptoms from my father didnt I.
my dad is narcissistic because he acts like a kid, and thinks he is the best
I dont act like a kid, and I usually act much bigger for the my age, but thats why I think I was better then everybody else, I usually think people who liked me can be my friend, but I usually deep down hated them, because I thought they hated me, which goes for everybody, every time I feel as if I disappoint them, I just immediately hate them, because I think they hate me, and I avoid them, with feeling no guilt. A few time this brought me too far. A time, my little sister was bothering me, so I strangled her, until she cried. I felt no guilt at all, because I just wanted to not get in trouble. And then another time, I threatened a kid at school, that I would kill his entire family, and after that he left the school, with just me feeling intense joy. Over that, my mom describes me as a paranoid person, because I usually worry whether somebody is bad or not, so I just say their bad, and I immediately know Im better then them. This isnt me most of the time, cause I usually just stay in my room, devoid of people, and very calm and quiet.
so yah. sometimes I can be a bit sadistic, and go into harming somebody just because they are bothering me, and threaten somebodys life.
excuse me if you think what Im saying sounds a bit too joyful, if sad. I really dont care much

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Stop brainwashing innocents into becoming altruists. The world will buck them up.
How do I know? I've been one for 16 freaking years until I realised nothing I ever did either for a complete stranger out of compassion for fellow humans or for a family member ever benefit me. All I do now at the age of 24 is regret having been such a push over and soft heart. I was TRUE altruist. I dreamed of becoming a world leader and end sorrow, make a government project to end everyone's loneliness, improve Earth's health and recycle everything.
Of course you'll never believe me. Because you have the bad seed in you.
Don't worry, I don't care if you report this comment or dislike it or totally roast me just for the fun of it. I stopped caring awhile ago. This is not my world. Oh yes, I've been told to leave it before, so try to find something new to roast me with, fatso.

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omg help im a narcissist i relate to the silent treatment very much cause whenever my friends does something that upset me for example like canceling plans or say something negative about what im wearing etc i legit wont talk to them and just act like they dont exist even if theyre right beside me trying to get my attention. i dont post on social media talking crap about them i fr just act they dont exist and they eventually apologize and then i just go on hanging out with them like i wasnt ignoring them for a whole week or more. i always thought this was fine and for some reason i just cant talk to them about like hey what you said/did really upset me idk its just uncomfortable like thats so awkward so i just let them think for themselves what they did wrong for me to ignore them. helphelphelphelp
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Part of debasement is that they tell stories badmouthing other people to make you care about the narcisist. They tell stories about their previous victims. They talk like every man they ever met is a stalker and or worse. They like to create this impression that they are this damsel in distress to try to make you want to protect them. They will tell you things that will mark them out as a narcisist in an attempt to make you see them as an infant so you feel that if you don't step in to parent them bad things will happen to them. In my experience she will also bring up narcisism herself, insist they are not a narcisist without being asked and paint other people in her relationships as the narcisists.
The narcisist hopes to portray themselves as good by portraying others as bad.

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Ummmmmmm this is me. Like for real I don't know if a narcissist actually knows. They say that they don't know that what they're doing, but it is very clear that they know and because I know what I am doing and it is wrong but I still do it. Everybody thinks I'm so nice and kind and happy. I am nice and kind, but it's not always genuine and I don't want people to not think of me as nice and kind, so I really have to hide who I really am. I am a really dark person. But I can put myself in other people's shoes and I do feel deeply and get emotional about things but I really want to get what I want in the end, like that's my main goal is me me me and it better work out or you will see me get mad.
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Both of my parents wear a thin veneer of being the perfect, helpful, shirt-off-their-own-backs type of neighbors but throw tantrums and turn verbally abusive behind closed doors at the slightest hint of me setting a boundary or challenging their senses of grandiosity. And then try to act like nothing happened the next day. Really sucks having to move back in as an adult going through tough times while trying to heal from childhood trauma when youre stuck in the same environment that caused it.
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I manipulated my husband into learning to cook by acting like I hurt myself, needed his help, and then telling him what he made was better than anything I ever made he used to NEVER help with the dog and i convinced him he was her favorite and a daddys girl and now he always thinks about her. Now those 2 responsibilities aren't completely mine and next I have to figure out how to make him believe he HAS to take and rinse his dishes in the sink.
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This just confirms to my denial self my mother was a extreme narcissist n i picked up so many traits n behaviors that make me question if I'm a narcissist now I know a narcissist supposedly would never question being a narcissist but what about those who were structured and built to be one but are aware that their actions are harmful yet we still hold many narcissist behaviors that can put us in that category because that's all we know
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Okay so the silent treatment where do we draw the line? Asking out of curiousity because I know someone who's uncle strangled her from behind and threw hot red coals at her gran and due to circumstances she can't move out of the house and is forced to live with him but she ignores him and doesn't acknowledge him or talk to him at all due to that event is that narcissm or self perservation?
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Narcissists are evil and dangerous people and will literally do whatever it takes to achieve their selfish desires, especially if it means hurting or even killing someone. They are heartless creatures, parasites that feed off of our kindness and faith in humanity. The best way to not get hurt by these heathens is to never let your guard down or trust anyone.
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Good Video! My narcissistic father snatched my birthday presents away all the time and I was never furious at him, because he treaded me overly nice once in my live and gave me similar presents, which he purchased on ebay for 1$ or less. Now i abandoned him completely and I feel happier then ever. Thanks Dad, for the daily torture back then!
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I don't believe Taylor was wrong about her version of covert narcissism
She isn't meaning the more sinister things narcissists do outlined in this video. But being an over giver, over helper and believing that makes you special. Being altruistic just to prove to yourself you're a great person. I believe that's what she's pointing to.

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There is nothing covert. Altruism is a manifestation of narcissism. Rather than pretending you're greater than me and claiming that there's no way that I can help you. Trade my dollar for your twenty dollars and be grateful. There you will find grace above that of mere altruism.
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My father told me:
1 Feed our cat well, she's going on dates.
2 Feed our cat well, she's pregnant.
3 Feed our cat well, she has babies.
4 Feed our cat well, we took her kitties away.
So I ALWAYS fed her well, then why would he enlist those reasons!

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Okay, so how do l convince them to be better? Coz making these tactics not work on me would just slow down the speed they learn them at, and they'd be less capable of using them on others, but then they might even leave me, after realizing others are easier to control!
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I think most narcissists, covert or overt, learn their narcissistic behaviors from their parents, so they are naturals. My ex was that way, and he didn't understand why nobody wanted to be controlled by him the way he didn't like it when his parents did it to him.
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Okaaaay can we please be intellectually honest? We weren't inspired by the Taylor Swift lyric. We have a morbid fascination with our own dysfunction, and art is a way of turning pain into pleasure. It is a kind of masochism.
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I'm overly nice as a childhood trauma, not because I'm a narcissist, people always think I have a hidden agenda and fear me yet I'm harmless and I end up to be hurt by everyone. In this world nothing is good enough.
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its really sad because they gain your trust over time and you never want to believe that theyre the bad person you think they are and then they convince you that youre the problem in the situation
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This makes me sad. People think I'm manipulative just because I'm overly nice and kind. I get treated like sht because people think I have some ulterior motive when in reality, I'm just kind.
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Met someone like this. A bit like dark empath as well but well i am not psychiatristbut i am pretty sure, that person is in betweennever want to connect with that person anymore. Dangerous.
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The song Anti-hero really hits hard for me, and i really like the wayTaylor expresses the mentality and mindset that most of us suffer. She's so talented and thoughtful.
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If the person gets mad when you reject their kindness or if they use that as some twisted blackmail or to play victim. Basically using kindness as a weapon.
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I do some of these things but know I am not a narc. I definitely need to start being more self aware to these and realize they stem from other anxieties.
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Thats why I dont give into mom when she says fine Ill do it myself! Okay, do it? At least I dont have to do any work. please, by all means, be my guest
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