What is normal and what is different? - Yana Buhrer Tavanier
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Date: 2022-02-08
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Spliter
This reminds me of the military airplane cockpit redesign story from 1950s.
They were trying to figure out why there were so many accidents where the pilots couldn't reach or use a control properly, and figured that since the cockpits were first designed the average pilot has grown. So they measured 4000 pilots and wanted to use the new calculated averages for cockpit design, but one guy Gilbert S Daniels noticed that not a single pilot fit within 30% of the average range on all 10 measurements. And even if you picked 3 measurements at random, less than 4% would be within the normal range for them.
Someone might have average arm length, but longer than average legs, average neck width, but shorter than average torso.
They had to design the cockpits to be configurable and then they finally managed to reduce the number of accidents.
There is no average pilot, and there is no average person. Be it physically, mentally or culturally.
One-size-fits-all sollutions just don't work
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This reminds me of the military airplane cockpit redesign story from 1950s.
They were trying to figure out why there were so many accidents where the pilots couldn't reach or use a control properly, and figured that since the cockpits were first designed the average pilot has grown. So they measured 4000 pilots and wanted to use the new calculated averages for cockpit design, but one guy Gilbert S Daniels noticed that not a single pilot fit within 30% of the average range on all 10 measurements. And even if you picked 3 measurements at random, less than 4% would be within the normal range for them.
Someone might have average arm length, but longer than average legs, average neck width, but shorter than average torso.
They had to design the cockpits to be configurable and then they finally managed to reduce the number of accidents.
There is no average pilot, and there is no average person. Be it physically, mentally or culturally.
One-size-fits-all sollutions just don't work
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TheDanishCatGirl
When ever I hear people talk about what s normal I think of something my support teacher used to tell me and my fellow autistic kids. Normal is a complicated thing, what is normal to me is different from what is normal to you. I think it s very true. In autistic circles we are very used to stuff like a persons social battery being too low so they need to retreat or someone being overwhelmed by their senses or a person coming to school very rarely for a time period. Things like that are completely normal too us because it s either something we have experienced ourselves or something someone we know have experienced. But too others it might seem weird. So I m actually normal even though I m not like everyone else or neurotypical people. Because to me what I am is completely normal.
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When ever I hear people talk about what s normal I think of something my support teacher used to tell me and my fellow autistic kids. Normal is a complicated thing, what is normal to me is different from what is normal to you. I think it s very true. In autistic circles we are very used to stuff like a persons social battery being too low so they need to retreat or someone being overwhelmed by their senses or a person coming to school very rarely for a time period. Things like that are completely normal too us because it s either something we have experienced ourselves or something someone we know have experienced. But too others it might seem weird. So I m actually normal even though I m not like everyone else or neurotypical people. Because to me what I am is completely normal.
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Bananaforscale
Another woke manipulative video. It never tells you _why_ being different is good, just that you should feel it's good and have strong opinion about it without need of seeing any argument for that, which would help well argue your points. Sometimes it's good to fit in and not be a troublemaker, like when you dance.
Of course BMI is simplified and outdated, why not show any better measurement? And this magical norm that no one fits in, what level of tolerance does it have? 1 inch difference and you don't fit anymore? That's just a bad measurement, I'm sure there are better that take distribution into consideration.
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Another woke manipulative video. It never tells you _why_ being different is good, just that you should feel it's good and have strong opinion about it without need of seeing any argument for that, which would help well argue your points. Sometimes it's good to fit in and not be a troublemaker, like when you dance.
Of course BMI is simplified and outdated, why not show any better measurement? And this magical norm that no one fits in, what level of tolerance does it have? 1 inch difference and you don't fit anymore? That's just a bad measurement, I'm sure there are better that take distribution into consideration.
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some
This is not surprising, no matter how typical traits are. If you look for enough of them it's unlikely one would have all of those traits. To illustrate this: let's say the probability of having a specific trait is 90%, now look for 10 traits that have that probability. Assuming they are independent (probably not but it'd be difficult to do the math if they aren't independent) you'd have about a 1/3 chance of having someone with all those 10 traits. This gets exponentially worse when the number of traits increases and when the probability lowers by even a little.
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This is not surprising, no matter how typical traits are. If you look for enough of them it's unlikely one would have all of those traits. To illustrate this: let's say the probability of having a specific trait is 90%, now look for 10 traits that have that probability. Assuming they are independent (probably not but it'd be difficult to do the math if they aren't independent) you'd have about a 1/3 chance of having someone with all those 10 traits. This gets exponentially worse when the number of traits increases and when the probability lowers by even a little.
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ХОРОШО
Normal weight is not a predictor of health because the very definition of health relies on what biological norm is. But how far could you stretch this logic? Is schizophrenia normal? Maybe cancer is normal? But it makes people suffer. What if suffering is normal? It's not, because when we evaluate things we rely on our humanistic approach, which is a norm we rely on. It's not like you didn't highlight an important point, it's just it's not easy to work out on deeper level.
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Normal weight is not a predictor of health because the very definition of health relies on what biological norm is. But how far could you stretch this logic? Is schizophrenia normal? Maybe cancer is normal? But it makes people suffer. What if suffering is normal? It's not, because when we evaluate things we rely on our humanistic approach, which is a norm we rely on. It's not like you didn't highlight an important point, it's just it's not easy to work out on deeper level.
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Dafork
I haven t watched the video yet, but in my opinion the correct answer is that there is no normal and that there is no different. We re all unique in our own way and there s no normal path we should all follow to avoid being seen as outcasts, and since we re all unique and different in our own way, there s no different in the sense that one person is way off of everyone else since we re all different in our own way and no one is absolutely different to everyone else.
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I haven t watched the video yet, but in my opinion the correct answer is that there is no normal and that there is no different. We re all unique in our own way and there s no normal path we should all follow to avoid being seen as outcasts, and since we re all unique and different in our own way, there s no different in the sense that one person is way off of everyone else since we re all different in our own way and no one is absolutely different to everyone else.
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Paul
Thank you for this video, which makes us think about this concept.
But if I may, I feel like you are trying to say that the concept of normal is a bad thing. Maybe you should add a part where you explain why we think in terms of normal and different.
For instance, normal means expected, which is quite useful to know if a fruit is eatable, or how to react to something.
Maybe we should see each side of a concept before judging it?
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Thank you for this video, which makes us think about this concept.
But if I may, I feel like you are trying to say that the concept of normal is a bad thing. Maybe you should add a part where you explain why we think in terms of normal and different.
For instance, normal means expected, which is quite useful to know if a fruit is eatable, or how to react to something.
Maybe we should see each side of a concept before judging it?
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Rick
I remember hearing about a study that measured the features of faces of men and women. Things like how far apart the eyes are, how long the nose is, and so on. They then took averages of all their measurements to come up with an average person. The two faces that were generated from the averages were stunningly beautiful, showing that people who we consider good looking, like a lot of celebrities, are actually average looking!
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I remember hearing about a study that measured the features of faces of men and women. Things like how far apart the eyes are, how long the nose is, and so on. They then took averages of all their measurements to come up with an average person. The two faces that were generated from the averages were stunningly beautiful, showing that people who we consider good looking, like a lot of celebrities, are actually average looking!
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Unfortunately in this dimension. normality doesn't exist, because people spend more energy on trying to be abnormal than just doing what they are biologically created to do. normality is upholding the moral integrity that we all should have as human beings, having common sense, doing things with logic and reason rather than impulse and emotion. nowadays the only thing that is normal is abnormality.
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Unfortunately in this dimension. normality doesn't exist, because people spend more energy on trying to be abnormal than just doing what they are biologically created to do. normality is upholding the moral integrity that we all should have as human beings, having common sense, doing things with logic and reason rather than impulse and emotion. nowadays the only thing that is normal is abnormality.
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Sun
What I have learnt is that the term 'Normal' is a propaganda technique used by modern society to make us conform to a pre-existing standards.
So at the end, there is no such thing as 'Normal'
We are all equally gifted, as a sociopath myself it hurts me a lot when people sees me as indifferent and incomplete.
Light always comes in through the cracks and holes
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What I have learnt is that the term 'Normal' is a propaganda technique used by modern society to make us conform to a pre-existing standards.
So at the end, there is no such thing as 'Normal'
We are all equally gifted, as a sociopath myself it hurts me a lot when people sees me as indifferent and incomplete.
Light always comes in through the cracks and holes
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