Can The Legendary City Of Troy Be Found? Lost Worlds Timeline
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I feel like everyone should know that the older stories (iliad and odyssey) are written by homer in about 1000 years BC, the rest of his works telling the whole story are lost. Some Roman follow up came around the birth of Christ and describes the actual horse and how the city was taken with it. What it also describes is how the defeated trojans came to italy and are the founders of Rome. all at a very convenient time in history for them. There is some other Greek literature which describes the events but also 1000 years after the original work.
One possible mention was made in odyssey about the trojan horse but I am not convinced. Look I read it all and I strongly believe its just a story, about god and legends told to entertain, but you can make up your own mind. Whether or not the whole Trojan horse part is even true is actually a different discussion.
I feel like when you want to make a documentary about whether or not the city of Troy actually existed, some research on the actual literature would not be a bad idea. Instead of pretending it all comes from the iliad. maybe that was just to simplify things but to me all of the above adds enough doubt the the whole story that no way in the world I believe any of it happened.
PS: Still love the doc tho, and the subject, obviously.
Date: 2022-07-19
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MAC
Rome in the 4th and 5th century was too unstable to do much other than try to and hold it together. Rome was collapsing, and it wasn't due to religion. Rome also abandoned Britain, then Gaul before it's fall. Illium likely was was abandoned due to the same decay. I realize this area was a part of the more stable Eastern Empire, but they probably weren't sitting by eating popcorn while the Western Empire burned. I suspect wealth and resources were diverted for a time, making vacations to ancient theme parks less of a priority.
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Rome in the 4th and 5th century was too unstable to do much other than try to and hold it together. Rome was collapsing, and it wasn't due to religion. Rome also abandoned Britain, then Gaul before it's fall. Illium likely was was abandoned due to the same decay. I realize this area was a part of the more stable Eastern Empire, but they probably weren't sitting by eating popcorn while the Western Empire burned. I suspect wealth and resources were diverted for a time, making vacations to ancient theme parks less of a priority.
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chef
This is full of inaccuracies. There is NO MENTION of the horse in the Illiad!
Try reading a well documented, cohesive account of the Trojan War.
Where Troy Once Stood. Wilson has shown that Troy was near current Cambridge in England, NOT Turkey. The terrain/sea/place names/river names correspond to the Iliad, that has NO corresponding sites exists in the Med. Tin not Helen was the reason for the Bronze Age war.
Schliemann was a well known charlatan, that had previously seeded sites to prove his theories.
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This is full of inaccuracies. There is NO MENTION of the horse in the Illiad!
Try reading a well documented, cohesive account of the Trojan War.
Where Troy Once Stood. Wilson has shown that Troy was near current Cambridge in England, NOT Turkey. The terrain/sea/place names/river names correspond to the Iliad, that has NO corresponding sites exists in the Med. Tin not Helen was the reason for the Bronze Age war.
Schliemann was a well known charlatan, that had previously seeded sites to prove his theories.
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education
The existence of the great Hittite state was first discovered in 1910 on an inscription on the wall of an Egyptian temple.
The Hittites wrote and kept records. In them it was found that there was a form of embargo on the tradable items of the Achaeans.
The Hittites were destroyed by the peoples of the sea, such as Ugarit.
Troy was a state subject to the Hittites.
The Achaeans defeated the Trojans, but did not colonize the area.
Draw conclusions.
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The existence of the great Hittite state was first discovered in 1910 on an inscription on the wall of an Egyptian temple.
The Hittites wrote and kept records. In them it was found that there was a form of embargo on the tradable items of the Achaeans.
The Hittites were destroyed by the peoples of the sea, such as Ugarit.
Troy was a state subject to the Hittites.
The Achaeans defeated the Trojans, but did not colonize the area.
Draw conclusions.
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Edward
the land been hidden and i have the only knowledge and they stole my identy and they have stole my house buisness and all i have the biggest insurance bank in the wourld the common wealth of pennsylavinia but i dont we the people do not live in deleware the chambers of commerce president mark hilliard is a fake name and hes gonna get into trouble i dont wanna see nobody get into trouble british king died and im the new king sorry arron ludwigs the tombs mine
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the land been hidden and i have the only knowledge and they stole my identy and they have stole my house buisness and all i have the biggest insurance bank in the wourld the common wealth of pennsylavinia but i dont we the people do not live in deleware the chambers of commerce president mark hilliard is a fake name and hes gonna get into trouble i dont wanna see nobody get into trouble british king died and im the new king sorry arron ludwigs the tombs mine
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Ege
The Trojan War was actually a war between the east and the west, not between two cities, and this war has never ended until today. The eyes of the west have always been on Anatolia. When Fatih Sultan Mehmet conquered Istanbul, he said, We avenged the Trojan from the Greeks. At the same time, the name of the ship on which the Armistice of Mudros was signed when the Ottoman Empire lost the First World War is Agamemnon.
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The Trojan War was actually a war between the east and the west, not between two cities, and this war has never ended until today. The eyes of the west have always been on Anatolia. When Fatih Sultan Mehmet conquered Istanbul, he said, We avenged the Trojan from the Greeks. At the same time, the name of the ship on which the Armistice of Mudros was signed when the Ottoman Empire lost the First World War is Agamemnon.
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Jordan
MACEDONIA was mentioned in Homers (melegave) book ILIAD and ODYSI in the war of ILION (the Trojan war) which took place sirca 1194-1184 BC; , meaning 550-580 B. C. Years before Karan as first King of Macedonia ( According Herodotus ancient historian)
THANKS GOD AND WE MACEDONIANS HAVE OUR HISTORIANS
Homer- Angel
Macedonian- Angel
Greek- Klitiras
And 1000 more verses.
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MACEDONIA was mentioned in Homers (melegave) book ILIAD and ODYSI in the war of ILION (the Trojan war) which took place sirca 1194-1184 BC; , meaning 550-580 B. C. Years before Karan as first King of Macedonia ( According Herodotus ancient historian)
THANKS GOD AND WE MACEDONIANS HAVE OUR HISTORIANS
Homer- Angel
Macedonian- Angel
Greek- Klitiras
And 1000 more verses.
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Beatrice
I'm not so sure that the treasure of Troy found by Schliemann was not the actual treasure, for a simple reason, the stylistic dating used to invalidate Schliemann's claim does not take into account the values of antiquities in ancient times. We hoard antiquities today so why would not people hoard antiquities 3800 years ago?
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I'm not so sure that the treasure of Troy found by Schliemann was not the actual treasure, for a simple reason, the stylistic dating used to invalidate Schliemann's claim does not take into account the values of antiquities in ancient times. We hoard antiquities today so why would not people hoard antiquities 3800 years ago?
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Nelle
The story of the fall of Troy as we know it today with the horse and Laocoon and his sons being killed by serpents actually comes from the Aeneid by Virgil. Written in the late Roman republic to link the Roman civilization with Homeric tradition. All Homer says is that Troy was sacked by the Greeks.
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The story of the fall of Troy as we know it today with the horse and Laocoon and his sons being killed by serpents actually comes from the Aeneid by Virgil. Written in the late Roman republic to link the Roman civilization with Homeric tradition. All Homer says is that Troy was sacked by the Greeks.
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BryDuhBikeGuy
Kaufman's Team came close? To what? A man who drove a Mercedes and wore silk while they wore t-shirts and sweated? As the voice over said. His was the most expensive dig there. Do we need to wonder why sudden 'discovery'in a spot happened? Just my 2cents.
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Kaufman's Team came close? To what? A man who drove a Mercedes and wore silk while they wore t-shirts and sweated? As the voice over said. His was the most expensive dig there. Do we need to wonder why sudden 'discovery'in a spot happened? Just my 2cents.
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Austin
I like the goofy looking skeptic with the outdated goattee. You see him once asking to see the site of the Greek army and then never again seen. Kick all the sniveling skeptics to the curb. They are petty and thrive on normalizing our incredibly vibrant past.
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I like the goofy looking skeptic with the outdated goattee. You see him once asking to see the site of the Greek army and then never again seen. Kick all the sniveling skeptics to the curb. They are petty and thrive on normalizing our incredibly vibrant past.
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Beth
It is up to each individual to choose their truths and to hold their Own Thoughts
Our thoughts are our Power and far too many give theirs away, to News Media, groups, individuals, by worrying about what others think, fears and self doubts are toxic.
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It is up to each individual to choose their truths and to hold their Own Thoughts
Our thoughts are our Power and far too many give theirs away, to News Media, groups, individuals, by worrying about what others think, fears and self doubts are toxic.
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Borris
Serbian Archeologists and Historians believe that City of Troy is actually City of Skadar in today Northern Albania. Skadar was Capitol City of the Serbian Empire for centuries, in the times before last Serbian ruling Dynasty of Nemanjic.
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Serbian Archeologists and Historians believe that City of Troy is actually City of Skadar in today Northern Albania. Skadar was Capitol City of the Serbian Empire for centuries, in the times before last Serbian ruling Dynasty of Nemanjic.
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Maciej
I wonder if Kaufman was familiar with the hypothesis that Troy was in the south of England and that the invasion was not because of a beautiful woman but because of its holding monopoly on tin, an important mineral in the era of bronze.
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I wonder if Kaufman was familiar with the hypothesis that Troy was in the south of England and that the invasion was not because of a beautiful woman but because of its holding monopoly on tin, an important mineral in the era of bronze.
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the
Whenever we find all these cities 3, 000 years ago or more that tells me that the tectonic plates have not moved yet at all and I love the magnetic thing magnets are great good luck and keep finding history I really enjoy watching it
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Whenever we find all these cities 3, 000 years ago or more that tells me that the tectonic plates have not moved yet at all and I love the magnetic thing magnets are great good luck and keep finding history I really enjoy watching it
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Flip
ooh. big. must be Troy. ooh. ditches must be Troy. ooh a big wooden horse. finding a fictitious city archeologically is a ridiculous concept and rest assured everybody but the clickbait creators knows it.
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ooh. big. must be Troy. ooh. ditches must be Troy. ooh a big wooden horse. finding a fictitious city archeologically is a ridiculous concept and rest assured everybody but the clickbait creators knows it.
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JupiterLounge
How come the babylonian ishtar gate and the seat of pergamon look the way they do but other discoveries are just rotten soil samples? The further back you go the more advanced it gets.
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How come the babylonian ishtar gate and the seat of pergamon look the way they do but other discoveries are just rotten soil samples? The further back you go the more advanced it gets.
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Christina
Every year thousands of tourist come to Hisarlik in the belief they are visiting the most famous sites of antiquity---
2: 28 Cue shirtless sweaty grandpa walking in the foreground.
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Every year thousands of tourist come to Hisarlik in the belief they are visiting the most famous sites of antiquity---
2: 28 Cue shirtless sweaty grandpa walking in the foreground.
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robert
How could the Germans allow such a priceless treasure to fall into the hands of dirty communists?
They should have moved it southwest so we could claim it for The Smithsonian.
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How could the Germans allow such a priceless treasure to fall into the hands of dirty communists?
They should have moved it southwest so we could claim it for The Smithsonian.
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Tanya
Amazing layers of finds and locations but not one mention of anything that had been burned. Hmnn. If the story of Troy is true, you haven't found the location yet!
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Amazing layers of finds and locations but not one mention of anything that had been burned. Hmnn. If the story of Troy is true, you haven't found the location yet!
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