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What if the Muslims won the 718 siege of Constantinople?

What if the Muslims won the 718 siege of Constantinople?

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What if the Muslims won the 718 siege of Constantinople? Panzer: Except that Charlemagne wouldnt have been born because his grandfather would have lost and most likely died against the Muslim armies invading from Spain into France. This means that much of Germanic, Scandinavian and even the Slavic areas of Europe never completely adopt Christianity because it was Charlemagne who basically spread Christianity towards Central Europe and thus beyond. His death means no major spread of Christianity towards Central and Eastern Europe, so there would still be a large sizable pagan population and there would be no feudal system in place. The Christian kingdoms would still be fighting with each other due to this instability and Christianity as a major influencing religion would decline. By far the Muslim faith would have more sway politically speaking across much of Europe, while Christianity would be relegated to the remains of the French lands, England and Ireland. The Pagan religions of Central and Eastern Europe might see conversion or outright rebirth of their faiths.
Date: 2022-07-15

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2: 45 i disagree. The reason why those places became Arabic was because they were already linguistically close to Arabs. However places that werent linguidtically close to Arabic still remained culturally seperate. It wasnt because the cultures that became Arabic had a weak culture to fall back on but more because they and the Arabs were part of the same larger cultural group.
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Well you're sort of assuming that the Abassid empire literally never has any moment or period of weakness that allows for a reconquest of Italy and/or the reconquest of Spain. I kind of feel like eventually such an event would happen, they can't just stay at their peak forever.
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As a kid in Bulgaria I was taught that Khan Tervel was called to aid Byzantium in holding back what is now referred to as the first Arab invasion as far as I can recall. His army marched through the open gates of Constantinople
They were welcomed as saviours.

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U missed an important point, if Muslims conquerored constantinople in 718, they would probably change the capital from Baghdad to constantinople
Thus making more fortified and probably will prevent the slavs from conqueroring it, if the abbasid Khalifat fall

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Since Rome was the seat of Catholicism for 400 years there would always be the drive to take it back, so the Crusades of 1100 would be to take back Rome instead of Jerusalem, being much closer they would have been able to hold it.
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The Bulgars also created a state on the river Volga and merged with Finno-Ugric peoples there, forming the Volga Bulgars. They became muslim, despite being a forest tribe, 80 years after their Danubian cousins became Christian.
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Removing the Mediterranean does not remove the Roman culture as England, Austria and France already had Latin culture deeply ingrained (especially France) And they had a massive impact on Western Civilization.
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I can imagine the united Italy with Arabic influences (while Arabic culture was still one of the more advanced in the world) would be a great power and very culturally rich.
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the ottomans based themselves off the byzantines so if the byzantines dont exist, the ottomans, if they exist at all, would look nothing loke what they did in our world.
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