What if the Catholic Church had taken over the West?
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Date: 2022-07-15
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Judith
What you say is false: if the West had remained unified under catholicism, there would have been faster scientific progress, though a somewhat slower and more cautious industrial transformation (that would have happened nevertheless. The proof of it is that Northern Italian civilisation remained far more creative, artistic, inquisitive and interesting than the Germanic one until the late 18th century and after. Germany would have looked more like Austria, and English America like France. Scientific progress needs more standardization and unification than fantasy and catholicism would have provided a common language for concepts. The Reformation did NOT help the cause of free enquiry: quite the contrary it subjected Northern Europe to much more sectarian thought and put and end to the Golden Renaissance. Science and technology alone without the pursuit of beauty and charity result in civilisational states that limit further scientific discovery. Catholicism could have evolved into a rational synthesis of experimental science and religious dogma like Shivaite Hinduism at some point, with the difference that Hinduism is too disorderly.
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What you say is false: if the West had remained unified under catholicism, there would have been faster scientific progress, though a somewhat slower and more cautious industrial transformation (that would have happened nevertheless. The proof of it is that Northern Italian civilisation remained far more creative, artistic, inquisitive and interesting than the Germanic one until the late 18th century and after. Germany would have looked more like Austria, and English America like France. Scientific progress needs more standardization and unification than fantasy and catholicism would have provided a common language for concepts. The Reformation did NOT help the cause of free enquiry: quite the contrary it subjected Northern Europe to much more sectarian thought and put and end to the Golden Renaissance. Science and technology alone without the pursuit of beauty and charity result in civilisational states that limit further scientific discovery. Catholicism could have evolved into a rational synthesis of experimental science and religious dogma like Shivaite Hinduism at some point, with the difference that Hinduism is too disorderly.
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Business
Wait, It didn't. well fair enough there was that guy who drove a pope mad, by attacking his house with an small army; a good thing, quite a few Pope's were among the classification of mass murderers who pretended they were saints, nothing worst than that. Plus that one Pope wanted to make an Emperor submit, is hillarious since that one time someone calling someone else words realized force can break words when they don't matter anymore, they've lost meaning; or rather Heretic means good emperor, not a bad one.
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Wait, It didn't. well fair enough there was that guy who drove a pope mad, by attacking his house with an small army; a good thing, quite a few Pope's were among the classification of mass murderers who pretended they were saints, nothing worst than that. Plus that one Pope wanted to make an Emperor submit, is hillarious since that one time someone calling someone else words realized force can break words when they don't matter anymore, they've lost meaning; or rather Heretic means good emperor, not a bad one.
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MrDieselakias
This is so WRONG! The so-called compettiveness bwteen papacy, merchants, king and nobles did not do anything to boost technology. Technology was boosted becasue of the city-state world of northern italy that was essentially influenced by the greek world of Byzantium. This was further accelerated by the fall of Byzantium. All of this video is just anlgogermanic propaganda spread to defence their lack of actual given novelty to the world
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This is so WRONG! The so-called compettiveness bwteen papacy, merchants, king and nobles did not do anything to boost technology. Technology was boosted becasue of the city-state world of northern italy that was essentially influenced by the greek world of Byzantium. This was further accelerated by the fall of Byzantium. All of this video is just anlgogermanic propaganda spread to defence their lack of actual given novelty to the world
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Arthur
The Song dynasty in China was not founded by a peasant rebel. Rather, it was actually brought about by a military coup by a general, who then became the first emperor of the dynasty. He tried to prevent any other general from attempting to imitate him by emasculating the army and inserting what we'd regard today as commissars to supervise army units. Centuries of ineffectual wars against the nomads ensued, culminating in the Mongol conquest.
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The Song dynasty in China was not founded by a peasant rebel. Rather, it was actually brought about by a military coup by a general, who then became the first emperor of the dynasty. He tried to prevent any other general from attempting to imitate him by emasculating the army and inserting what we'd regard today as commissars to supervise army units. Centuries of ineffectual wars against the nomads ensued, culminating in the Mongol conquest.
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monsterhunter445
Sorry but the west ideology is super abstract. Freedom is an abstract concept. I know you love the west but the west isnt special. I honestly hate the term because most of the countries aren't even in the west. The Greeks wouldn't have thought of themselves as part of the west or 'white' (another modern term)
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Sorry but the west ideology is super abstract. Freedom is an abstract concept. I know you love the west but the west isnt special. I honestly hate the term because most of the countries aren't even in the west. The Greeks wouldn't have thought of themselves as part of the west or 'white' (another modern term)
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Mel
I suggest you read more on the Mission system in California and the destruction of the various Aztec books. It is beyond a leap to say the Catholic priesthood protected native Americans. Of course it was based around their belief that they were saving souls, but the Mission system was absolutely brutal.
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I suggest you read more on the Mission system in California and the destruction of the various Aztec books. It is beyond a leap to say the Catholic priesthood protected native Americans. Of course it was based around their belief that they were saving souls, but the Mission system was absolutely brutal.
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roberto
Renaissance was born and developed in Italy, a catholic country, before spreading in northern Europe. Thus even if all the west remained catholic, the modern age would have had the same development as our timeline. And the colonialism started with Spain and Portugal, another two catholic countries.
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Renaissance was born and developed in Italy, a catholic country, before spreading in northern Europe. Thus even if all the west remained catholic, the modern age would have had the same development as our timeline. And the colonialism started with Spain and Portugal, another two catholic countries.
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Enslaved
Some scholars have hypothesized that, like the Catholic diocese in Iceland, Greenland may have had an unofficial bishop first, specifically Eric the Bishop who was sent to Greenland in the year 1112, though others claim he was a missionary bishop, and there is no record of his return
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Some scholars have hypothesized that, like the Catholic diocese in Iceland, Greenland may have had an unofficial bishop first, specifically Eric the Bishop who was sent to Greenland in the year 1112, though others claim he was a missionary bishop, and there is no record of his return
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EpicMRPancake
10: 26 Sorry but that's just crap, the Vatican made a concordat with the Nazis giving them control of Germany's education system in return for dissolving the Catholic Centre Party. You mentioned this in another video so IDK why you would say this here.
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10: 26 Sorry but that's just crap, the Vatican made a concordat with the Nazis giving them control of Germany's education system in return for dissolving the Catholic Centre Party. You mentioned this in another video so IDK why you would say this here.
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