The Great Wave Crashes
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Date: 2024-11-01
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Ryanrobi
There are some things you're saying that I see in my own life but as someone who grew up in a very poor family single mom with five kids on welfare All of my friends and family are now upper middle class or wealthy as working professionals or business owners everyone is much better off than they were 30 years ago. There are a few things that have gotten worse one being obesity another being mental health from social media mostly for younger women in the last one I think is the price of housing in some areas.
I am a farmer in upstate New York and if I look across the road from me my neighbors for the most average American family the wife is a nurse She makes like 80, 000 a year The husband is a truck driver he makes about 80, 000 a year They have four kids a house 5 acres for vehicles and in my county the average house cost is $120, 000 and its one of the poorest countys in America. Its very easy here to get a good job, home, family the reason why most dont in the area is either lazyness or poverty culture where people compete to see who can get more free stuff from government and do less. This is the culture i grew up in although my family was never into it hence why we quickly escaped poverty and became productive again.
Certainly the world is less safe and the vibes are not as good as they where say in the 90s but historically Americans and all of the human race is an in objectively very peaceful and properous time. It can always fall apart and maybe it will but Americans dont realize how good we have it, just go to an actual poor country and live with actual poor people for a few weeks and you will see even the poorest here are very rich.
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There are some things you're saying that I see in my own life but as someone who grew up in a very poor family single mom with five kids on welfare All of my friends and family are now upper middle class or wealthy as working professionals or business owners everyone is much better off than they were 30 years ago. There are a few things that have gotten worse one being obesity another being mental health from social media mostly for younger women in the last one I think is the price of housing in some areas.
I am a farmer in upstate New York and if I look across the road from me my neighbors for the most average American family the wife is a nurse She makes like 80, 000 a year The husband is a truck driver he makes about 80, 000 a year They have four kids a house 5 acres for vehicles and in my county the average house cost is $120, 000 and its one of the poorest countys in America. Its very easy here to get a good job, home, family the reason why most dont in the area is either lazyness or poverty culture where people compete to see who can get more free stuff from government and do less. This is the culture i grew up in although my family was never into it hence why we quickly escaped poverty and became productive again.
Certainly the world is less safe and the vibes are not as good as they where say in the 90s but historically Americans and all of the human race is an in objectively very peaceful and properous time. It can always fall apart and maybe it will but Americans dont realize how good we have it, just go to an actual poor country and live with actual poor people for a few weeks and you will see even the poorest here are very rich.
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aguspuig6615
I honestly find it hard to imagine something like a civil war, and i know it sounds crazy, tensions are crazy high. But like, both ''sides'' are so so so so incredibly symilar. I feel like i would be friends with Rudyard if i knew him in real life, but i feel like id also be friends with Vaush lmao, even tho they are maybe the complete oposite and even tho i have disagreements with both.
In a world were you can easily get to know someone from almost any country, do we really have it in ourselves to kill eachother Like, i think ive been more angry at my own parents, or at some teacher that tried to make my life impossible as a kid than ive ever been against a vague class of people i disagree with.
What if this great wave is just the retards on both extremes killing eachother, while most people realise that 90% of their anger was stoked from the outside and that they dont really care enough to kill eachother
This is a huge leap of intuition but, similar to how the industrial revolution can turn what would be a crisis into a sort of equilibrium, i think the degree of connectivity in the world right now creates an often forgotten cushion that prevents genuine hatred, not to say there arent wars, obviously they are, but civil wars Idk bro.
That being said, my only skill is reading vibes, and i dont read that many books, so this is all just a hunch, but i couldnt help but write it down
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I honestly find it hard to imagine something like a civil war, and i know it sounds crazy, tensions are crazy high. But like, both ''sides'' are so so so so incredibly symilar. I feel like i would be friends with Rudyard if i knew him in real life, but i feel like id also be friends with Vaush lmao, even tho they are maybe the complete oposite and even tho i have disagreements with both.
In a world were you can easily get to know someone from almost any country, do we really have it in ourselves to kill eachother Like, i think ive been more angry at my own parents, or at some teacher that tried to make my life impossible as a kid than ive ever been against a vague class of people i disagree with.
What if this great wave is just the retards on both extremes killing eachother, while most people realise that 90% of their anger was stoked from the outside and that they dont really care enough to kill eachother
This is a huge leap of intuition but, similar to how the industrial revolution can turn what would be a crisis into a sort of equilibrium, i think the degree of connectivity in the world right now creates an often forgotten cushion that prevents genuine hatred, not to say there arent wars, obviously they are, but civil wars Idk bro.
That being said, my only skill is reading vibes, and i dont read that many books, so this is all just a hunch, but i couldnt help but write it down
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aguspuig6615
Hey, Rudyard, youre very sure that a big change is coming, to some degree we all feel it.
How about you dedicate one video to delineating your ideal change, after all you have a decently big voice, it wouldnt hurt to spread such ideas. I think in our generation we have been trained very well to be pessimistic, turbulent problem solvers, we are very good at looking for whats wrong. But its very rare that we get some encouragement to be idealists in the romantic sense of the word.
I think its worth having a strong idea of were we want things to go besides just expecting a crisis, after all in a crisis is were great men rise, and id rather whoever rises is someone with some hope for a better world instead of a cynic.
Now i assume youve already at least given some thought to this idea, i just want to encourage you to share it, it would be very interesting and its something everyone should take on as a duty, sharing what you want, if done by enough people, allows us to see the common factors and thus it creates unity. Please do this, we all should. Otherwise we are torn between the ''the west has fallen gabillions must die'' in the right and the ''youll eat the bugs and be happy because everythings fine'' on the left.
We need an actual utopian aspiration
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Hey, Rudyard, youre very sure that a big change is coming, to some degree we all feel it.
How about you dedicate one video to delineating your ideal change, after all you have a decently big voice, it wouldnt hurt to spread such ideas. I think in our generation we have been trained very well to be pessimistic, turbulent problem solvers, we are very good at looking for whats wrong. But its very rare that we get some encouragement to be idealists in the romantic sense of the word.
I think its worth having a strong idea of were we want things to go besides just expecting a crisis, after all in a crisis is were great men rise, and id rather whoever rises is someone with some hope for a better world instead of a cynic.
Now i assume youve already at least given some thought to this idea, i just want to encourage you to share it, it would be very interesting and its something everyone should take on as a duty, sharing what you want, if done by enough people, allows us to see the common factors and thus it creates unity. Please do this, we all should. Otherwise we are torn between the ''the west has fallen gabillions must die'' in the right and the ''youll eat the bugs and be happy because everythings fine'' on the left.
We need an actual utopian aspiration
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TankMaster889
Whoa it’s almost like significant drops in wages correlating with massive increases in corporate profits and price hikes across the western world would drive people to criminal activities.
Crime isn’t a black/brown people thing it’s a poor people thing. And no, it’s not because they are inherently worse. Wage decreases, price hikes, and decreases in the standard of living are the main contributing factors to crime.
Even then, crime rates across the western world have in large been decreasing. 1st and 2nd generation immigrants consistently commit crimes on par or lower than native populations. Crime was actually highest, especially is cities, during the 80s and 90s.
Price gouging, monopolies and wage decreases (all perpetuated by corporations) are the main factors in the strain on western civilization. Policies like increasing minimum wage, stronger union protections, more guaranteed benefits and trust busting are what the west needs to make a comeback.
We also need to deal with the overwhelming challenge that is corporate owned media. The vast majority of media have downplayed and sanewashed Donald Trump, an objectively fascist candidate for the most powerful country in the world.
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Whoa it’s almost like significant drops in wages correlating with massive increases in corporate profits and price hikes across the western world would drive people to criminal activities.
Crime isn’t a black/brown people thing it’s a poor people thing. And no, it’s not because they are inherently worse. Wage decreases, price hikes, and decreases in the standard of living are the main contributing factors to crime.
Even then, crime rates across the western world have in large been decreasing. 1st and 2nd generation immigrants consistently commit crimes on par or lower than native populations. Crime was actually highest, especially is cities, during the 80s and 90s.
Price gouging, monopolies and wage decreases (all perpetuated by corporations) are the main factors in the strain on western civilization. Policies like increasing minimum wage, stronger union protections, more guaranteed benefits and trust busting are what the west needs to make a comeback.
We also need to deal with the overwhelming challenge that is corporate owned media. The vast majority of media have downplayed and sanewashed Donald Trump, an objectively fascist candidate for the most powerful country in the world.
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therealhokage2490
I don't disagree that some shit is gonna go down (and now I'm excited for it) but I still am trying to rack my head figuring out what the conflict would even be like.
In a second American Civil War, the political divide is the Right, who has all the manpower (literally) and the Left, who have absolutely no physical fighting forces at all. Most of the military is right wing, gun owners, entrepreneurs, and the healthiest overall versus the Left which hates guns, testosterone, conflict, and things that require one to win a war.
I just don't understand what a real civil war would look like, because if it's Left Vs. Right, then Right would win by default.
I hear you saying Well, the North also said that about the South, and look how that turned out. But the South had manpower and a fighting spirit, unlike the Left whose strengths are feminism, DEI, and equity.
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I don't disagree that some shit is gonna go down (and now I'm excited for it) but I still am trying to rack my head figuring out what the conflict would even be like.
In a second American Civil War, the political divide is the Right, who has all the manpower (literally) and the Left, who have absolutely no physical fighting forces at all. Most of the military is right wing, gun owners, entrepreneurs, and the healthiest overall versus the Left which hates guns, testosterone, conflict, and things that require one to win a war.
I just don't understand what a real civil war would look like, because if it's Left Vs. Right, then Right would win by default.
I hear you saying Well, the North also said that about the South, and look how that turned out. But the South had manpower and a fighting spirit, unlike the Left whose strengths are feminism, DEI, and equity.
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whatifalthist
The problem is capitalism.
In the 50s and 60s we were just coming off the government stimulus of the New Deal and WW2 with high corporate tax rates, high government investment (at least in white neighborhoods, high unionization and high regulation for food quality, worker safety and consumer safety.
But the bourgeoisie struck back as empires often will. They went to China and nickle and dimed away the reforms and working class gains through deregulation and the rest was destroyed by inflation of the federal reserve funny money.
The American dream was killed by Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. In the 1950s meat packing was a good job with benefits, vacation time, safety standards and good pay, but now they use illegal immigrants so they can threaten to call ice on them if they complain about the shitty working conditions.
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The problem is capitalism.
In the 50s and 60s we were just coming off the government stimulus of the New Deal and WW2 with high corporate tax rates, high government investment (at least in white neighborhoods, high unionization and high regulation for food quality, worker safety and consumer safety.
But the bourgeoisie struck back as empires often will. They went to China and nickle and dimed away the reforms and working class gains through deregulation and the rest was destroyed by inflation of the federal reserve funny money.
The American dream was killed by Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. In the 1950s meat packing was a good job with benefits, vacation time, safety standards and good pay, but now they use illegal immigrants so they can threaten to call ice on them if they complain about the shitty working conditions.
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alexdugin5315
I do hope that things won't get more bloody than they are today, but we surely will see societal and political changes soon.
We run off the fumes of what we had achieved in the 2nd half of the last century, and our ideologies are coming to the logical conclusion of their extremes (which don't seem to work.
I don't know if it's right historically, but to me, it seems that a rise of conservatism means that an ideology has gone too far in one direction since conservatives want to conserve an ideology at a certain point since moving forward becomes foolish.
Sadly however, you can't turn back time, so new ideology will have to emerge, learning from the lessons of the old, and we should hope it works.
Great analysis though man, love the video.
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I do hope that things won't get more bloody than they are today, but we surely will see societal and political changes soon.
We run off the fumes of what we had achieved in the 2nd half of the last century, and our ideologies are coming to the logical conclusion of their extremes (which don't seem to work.
I don't know if it's right historically, but to me, it seems that a rise of conservatism means that an ideology has gone too far in one direction since conservatives want to conserve an ideology at a certain point since moving forward becomes foolish.
Sadly however, you can't turn back time, so new ideology will have to emerge, learning from the lessons of the old, and we should hope it works.
Great analysis though man, love the video.
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travismiller758
Us Americans love anime, the Japanese created anime. Us Americans love freedom, the Japanese generally love the western concept of freedom.
Did you ever see that video of a US Naval ship pull alongside a Japanese naval vessel during a joint training excercise, and the Japanese servicemen were waving the American flag as a show of respect, while the US servicemen waved anime body pillows as a sign of endearment and love.
At face value, its absurd and makes the US look like turds, but at the end of the day: what it says is that we all like anime and freedom. That alone is enough to solidify a standing alliance. It's a weird cultural exchange that maybe doesn't mean anything. I like to think that it means a lot.
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Us Americans love anime, the Japanese created anime. Us Americans love freedom, the Japanese generally love the western concept of freedom.
Did you ever see that video of a US Naval ship pull alongside a Japanese naval vessel during a joint training excercise, and the Japanese servicemen were waving the American flag as a show of respect, while the US servicemen waved anime body pillows as a sign of endearment and love.
At face value, its absurd and makes the US look like turds, but at the end of the day: what it says is that we all like anime and freedom. That alone is enough to solidify a standing alliance. It's a weird cultural exchange that maybe doesn't mean anything. I like to think that it means a lot.
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AnatomyDotCity
One thing that he misses in his analysis is a spatial component. Or maybe geography is a better word using this case but when you look at America, it’s a unique country in terms of geography. There is never been a nation that was blessed with such a landscape I haven’t given it much thought or analysis but I wonder about the examples he uses if there isn’t something about the borders and geography that might make it categorically different than United States in this situation. I think naturally people recognize it almost subconsciously that has something to do with the America first movement.
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One thing that he misses in his analysis is a spatial component. Or maybe geography is a better word using this case but when you look at America, it’s a unique country in terms of geography. There is never been a nation that was blessed with such a landscape I haven’t given it much thought or analysis but I wonder about the examples he uses if there isn’t something about the borders and geography that might make it categorically different than United States in this situation. I think naturally people recognize it almost subconsciously that has something to do with the America first movement.
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chriswhinery
Very interesting.
I have to admit my skepticism at first. Thinking, if this kind of turmoil is cyclical, that your hypothesis would be, it's a natural phenomenon.
I almost wrote this post arguing our current situation isn't natural, it's entirely manufactured, and any sane government could reverse the trend towards disaster overnight.
I'm happy I decided to wait for the end. I wasn't aware of the evidence describing past conflict and the end of entire civilizations around the world, were also contrived.
This suggests a malevolent force, as we see now, at work throughout history.
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Very interesting.
I have to admit my skepticism at first. Thinking, if this kind of turmoil is cyclical, that your hypothesis would be, it's a natural phenomenon.
I almost wrote this post arguing our current situation isn't natural, it's entirely manufactured, and any sane government could reverse the trend towards disaster overnight.
I'm happy I decided to wait for the end. I wasn't aware of the evidence describing past conflict and the end of entire civilizations around the world, were also contrived.
This suggests a malevolent force, as we see now, at work throughout history.
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andyjohnson5571
I started working at 14 in North Eastern Ohio (ground zero rust belt, by 24 I had my own business re-working container loads of defective Chinese made crap. After building it up from a 5, 000 sqft building by 2020 we were in a 250, 000 sqft building when the beginning of my gap years started March 13 2020 and it was like a nuke going off and destroying my life at 50 years old. After 9 months and no 100 employees, not allowed to operate due to a very bad crime against humanity. Im still gap yearing, i refuse to pay these criminals one dime in taxes! THEY DESTROYED MY LIFE!
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I started working at 14 in North Eastern Ohio (ground zero rust belt, by 24 I had my own business re-working container loads of defective Chinese made crap. After building it up from a 5, 000 sqft building by 2020 we were in a 250, 000 sqft building when the beginning of my gap years started March 13 2020 and it was like a nuke going off and destroying my life at 50 years old. After 9 months and no 100 employees, not allowed to operate due to a very bad crime against humanity. Im still gap yearing, i refuse to pay these criminals one dime in taxes! THEY DESTROYED MY LIFE!
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johnkluge3421
There will be blood on the streets isn’t much of a prediction. There is blood on the streets in Chicago every weekend. Even 2020 was confined to a few cities where the authorities allowed it. That is not a civil war or anything close.
I think you were so affected by 2020 because you live among a certain type of person and like many urbanites are largely disconnected from the rest of the country. You are also young don’t have the experience to put this riots in perspective. The riots in the late 60s were orders of magnitude larger.
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There will be blood on the streets isn’t much of a prediction. There is blood on the streets in Chicago every weekend. Even 2020 was confined to a few cities where the authorities allowed it. That is not a civil war or anything close.
I think you were so affected by 2020 because you live among a certain type of person and like many urbanites are largely disconnected from the rest of the country. You are also young don’t have the experience to put this riots in perspective. The riots in the late 60s were orders of magnitude larger.
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aguspuig6615
10: 00 its sad because, on the one hand Trump does shake up the establishment, but on the other he does so for the worse, hes literally the right wing equivalent of a BLM CEO. The BLM riots in the summer of love are to me almost analogous to the storming of the capitol.
The left spent 10 years laughing at the right, then they became crazy with BLM as an example, and now the right has snapped too and it feels like there is plenty of crazy on both sides. But both sides only see the crazy on the other side
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10: 00 its sad because, on the one hand Trump does shake up the establishment, but on the other he does so for the worse, hes literally the right wing equivalent of a BLM CEO. The BLM riots in the summer of love are to me almost analogous to the storming of the capitol.
The left spent 10 years laughing at the right, then they became crazy with BLM as an example, and now the right has snapped too and it feels like there is plenty of crazy on both sides. But both sides only see the crazy on the other side
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whatifalthist
25: 36 why its different this time:
1. Food abundance
2. Medicine (child mortatlity and life expentancy)
3. Literacy / access to knowledge
3. Communication and shipping over long distances
4. Life indoors (isolation from nature, no one even sees the stars anymore.
Sure the more things change the more they stay the same. But to choose to believe the ways in which our society today are vastly different from anytime in history dont effect these growth cycles is crazy.
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25: 36 why its different this time:
1. Food abundance
2. Medicine (child mortatlity and life expentancy)
3. Literacy / access to knowledge
3. Communication and shipping over long distances
4. Life indoors (isolation from nature, no one even sees the stars anymore.
Sure the more things change the more they stay the same. But to choose to believe the ways in which our society today are vastly different from anytime in history dont effect these growth cycles is crazy.
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gungnir3926
happy to be danish at least. small social ethnostates with strong cultures, long histories and geographically and culturally clean borders. just copy. we have the tech to make larger organisations of such states managable in terms of broader economical project and a huge collective army. usa is just an instruction manual of what not to do. not a home or crountry. just a place. a gold rush, still in the colonisation stage. a warzone.
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happy to be danish at least. small social ethnostates with strong cultures, long histories and geographically and culturally clean borders. just copy. we have the tech to make larger organisations of such states managable in terms of broader economical project and a huge collective army. usa is just an instruction manual of what not to do. not a home or crountry. just a place. a gold rush, still in the colonisation stage. a warzone.
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maxwedewferg
Glad you're waking up to the truth. Capitalism promotes and rewards greed. Greedy people took over governments and culture to keep explointing us and they got creative about it. But now we have millions of young talented people living exploitation and we're not happy about it. This is what happens when you encourage greed and selfishness. Politicians are the movie, but the projector is held by other people, the true enemy.
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Glad you're waking up to the truth. Capitalism promotes and rewards greed. Greedy people took over governments and culture to keep explointing us and they got creative about it. But now we have millions of young talented people living exploitation and we're not happy about it. This is what happens when you encourage greed and selfishness. Politicians are the movie, but the projector is held by other people, the true enemy.
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scottfoster3548
IT is rough BUT the wave crashes and the energy dissipates, and you will be on the other side. Thinking like that is tough being a surfer helps. Then breath through your nose, stand -up merit will TRUMP identity, but you will have to work. Like the traditional Judeo-Christian Western values really taught. The meek will inherit the earth BUT you have to be strong and courageous so as to reach terms of inheritance.
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IT is rough BUT the wave crashes and the energy dissipates, and you will be on the other side. Thinking like that is tough being a surfer helps. Then breath through your nose, stand -up merit will TRUMP identity, but you will have to work. Like the traditional Judeo-Christian Western values really taught. The meek will inherit the earth BUT you have to be strong and courageous so as to reach terms of inheritance.
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FullCircleTravis
What you're perceiving is the function of Pride. The prideful always get drunk on their own power and crash society. The prideful are everyone who makes their decisions based on a false reality driven by desire and fear. The more false beliefs you hold, the more likely you will make decisions yielding the opposite of what you want. Prideful thinking always creates a hell for everyone who is prideful.
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What you're perceiving is the function of Pride. The prideful always get drunk on their own power and crash society. The prideful are everyone who makes their decisions based on a false reality driven by desire and fear. The more false beliefs you hold, the more likely you will make decisions yielding the opposite of what you want. Prideful thinking always creates a hell for everyone who is prideful.
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sidzero
Why it's different this time: We live in a globalized society that has an unprecedented level of technology. We have an abundance of data to draw from, the likes of which the world has never seen. We have learned and evolved as a species. We can MAKE it different. We just have to not sit idly by and let it all happen again because we're too afraid of what the world looks like on the other side of things.
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Why it's different this time: We live in a globalized society that has an unprecedented level of technology. We have an abundance of data to draw from, the likes of which the world has never seen. We have learned and evolved as a species. We can MAKE it different. We just have to not sit idly by and let it all happen again because we're too afraid of what the world looks like on the other side of things.
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castirondude
The great wave started in the 1970's when the USA stopped being a technological/manufacturing leader and became a follower. And like you say with the waiting room analogy, it's been very painful to watch this slow-motion demise of a once great nation. You get to the point of the titanic worldview where you stop trying to bilge out the water and get in a lifeboat.
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The great wave started in the 1970's when the USA stopped being a technological/manufacturing leader and became a follower. And like you say with the waiting room analogy, it's been very painful to watch this slow-motion demise of a once great nation. You get to the point of the titanic worldview where you stop trying to bilge out the water and get in a lifeboat.
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