The SAD TRUTH About Wilderness -SURVIVAL- - IT'S JUST FASTING!
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Date: 2021-05-17
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Martina
IMHO the answer to all of this is Y & N: explanation = if you are a city dweller heading out to public lands your chances of long term survival (not starving / not getting sick) are not good by any means. anyone with any real outdoors experience won't dispute this. now on the other hand if you happen to own a great deal of land rich with natural resources (like a farmer / rancher who lives nowhere near any cities) you can survive long term providing that the land has a lot of natural resources. i live on a remote rural farm/ranch and i can survive long term due to what this land has to offer. natural cold water springs, a creek, cattle water tanks, ponds, tons of wild pigs and just about every other type of wild game that texas has to offer. many fur bearing mammals, fish, heavy woods, fields and ability to grow anything that will grow in texas. i also have farm animals that provide food readily that we eat everyday. very little food is purchased at a groc store. some foods purchased are flour and such. most foods are raised and canned on this farm. wild hogs provide more pork than we can eat. now if the electric was cut off the freezers wouldn't work and that would cause a big problem as far as farm butchered frozen meats are concerned. water comes from a well and can be hand pumped, but actual survival and actual long term sustainability here where i live is not in question. many city people concerned with SHTF situations 1stly might consider the disadvantage they are already in by living in a city as far as survival and long term sustainability. there is survival and there is long term sustainability. 2 different topics. trapping alone won't do it. farming alone won't do it. hunting alone won't do it, fishing alone won't do it. ranching alone won't do it. it takes all of these methods and it takes pure water sources w/o work to obtain it. time actually is of the essence as well because you must always take in way more calories than you use to collect and prepare your food and water and anything short of that is taking a step backwards just to survive. a game you can't fall behind on if you wish just to survive. long term sustainability i think is almost impossible w/o owning a great deal of rural land that has all of these resources listed above and that you have the knowledge of how to manage them. also just because one might own a great deal of rural land that doesn't mean that particular land will lend it's self to supply everything needed for sustainability. do you have any idea if there were a SHTF situation how fast the public lakes would be emptied of all of it's fish? everybody and their big ole' fat ex-mother in laws would be out there fishing looking for dinner. same for all small game on public lands too. you squat on a farmer/ranchers land chances are you're gonna end-up on the wrong end of a gun barrel. another thing if you are born and raised a city person it would be very hard to purchase and manage land even enough to pay the taxes on it w/o being born and raised in a rural environment and many of those people inherit their land making it possible for them to own it. in a real SHTF situation the far rural people are the ones that will just keep on trucking. the city people would have a very hard time of it.
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IMHO the answer to all of this is Y & N: explanation = if you are a city dweller heading out to public lands your chances of long term survival (not starving / not getting sick) are not good by any means. anyone with any real outdoors experience won't dispute this. now on the other hand if you happen to own a great deal of land rich with natural resources (like a farmer / rancher who lives nowhere near any cities) you can survive long term providing that the land has a lot of natural resources. i live on a remote rural farm/ranch and i can survive long term due to what this land has to offer. natural cold water springs, a creek, cattle water tanks, ponds, tons of wild pigs and just about every other type of wild game that texas has to offer. many fur bearing mammals, fish, heavy woods, fields and ability to grow anything that will grow in texas. i also have farm animals that provide food readily that we eat everyday. very little food is purchased at a groc store. some foods purchased are flour and such. most foods are raised and canned on this farm. wild hogs provide more pork than we can eat. now if the electric was cut off the freezers wouldn't work and that would cause a big problem as far as farm butchered frozen meats are concerned. water comes from a well and can be hand pumped, but actual survival and actual long term sustainability here where i live is not in question. many city people concerned with SHTF situations 1stly might consider the disadvantage they are already in by living in a city as far as survival and long term sustainability. there is survival and there is long term sustainability. 2 different topics. trapping alone won't do it. farming alone won't do it. hunting alone won't do it, fishing alone won't do it. ranching alone won't do it. it takes all of these methods and it takes pure water sources w/o work to obtain it. time actually is of the essence as well because you must always take in way more calories than you use to collect and prepare your food and water and anything short of that is taking a step backwards just to survive. a game you can't fall behind on if you wish just to survive. long term sustainability i think is almost impossible w/o owning a great deal of rural land that has all of these resources listed above and that you have the knowledge of how to manage them. also just because one might own a great deal of rural land that doesn't mean that particular land will lend it's self to supply everything needed for sustainability. do you have any idea if there were a SHTF situation how fast the public lakes would be emptied of all of it's fish? everybody and their big ole' fat ex-mother in laws would be out there fishing looking for dinner. same for all small game on public lands too. you squat on a farmer/ranchers land chances are you're gonna end-up on the wrong end of a gun barrel. another thing if you are born and raised a city person it would be very hard to purchase and manage land even enough to pay the taxes on it w/o being born and raised in a rural environment and many of those people inherit their land making it possible for them to own it. in a real SHTF situation the far rural people are the ones that will just keep on trucking. the city people would have a very hard time of it.
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Johnathan
The answer is yes. One could live out there lives as a naturalist. I am going to take as much gear with me before heading out. I'm renouncing citizenship & wrighting my own terms of amendments on a notorized affidavit & serving the government with it. I ain't buyn no tags. A natural life has nothing to do with money. I'm gonna live in a national park somewhere. That's the bad part about society, it domesticates you which is a disservice to one's self. I'd rather live the sober life in the wild then live in a society trying to dictate what's moral & immoral. You can't legally enforce either over the life's of others. I'm walking away from everything society & maken it legal before i do. I could write the best books on all this stuff. In fact living out there like a naturalist most people in society would think it's crazy but in all actuality it's reverting back to normality.
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The answer is yes. One could live out there lives as a naturalist. I am going to take as much gear with me before heading out. I'm renouncing citizenship & wrighting my own terms of amendments on a notorized affidavit & serving the government with it. I ain't buyn no tags. A natural life has nothing to do with money. I'm gonna live in a national park somewhere. That's the bad part about society, it domesticates you which is a disservice to one's self. I'd rather live the sober life in the wild then live in a society trying to dictate what's moral & immoral. You can't legally enforce either over the life's of others. I'm walking away from everything society & maken it legal before i do. I could write the best books on all this stuff. In fact living out there like a naturalist most people in society would think it's crazy but in all actuality it's reverting back to normality.
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Aakashdeep
Very informative and interesting video! I learned a lot, and my outlook on wilderness survival has definitely changed. I loved the fact that you used actual research and not just speculation. Thank you!
Something I would like to add from my experience as an athlete coach is that caloric intakes vary wildly from person to person. I am 5'10-, 155 lbs and need -2800 calories to maintain my weight. Women also tend to have lower caloric requirements, needing -700 calories less than men of similar sizes. I think the lower fat consumption observed in the women you mentioned is very comparable to the men's when adjusted for their caloric requirements.
Also, since each lb of fat is -3500 calories, we can estimate these people's daily fat reserve calories consumed, and speculate about their average true caloric intake by inference too!
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Very informative and interesting video! I learned a lot, and my outlook on wilderness survival has definitely changed. I loved the fact that you used actual research and not just speculation. Thank you!
Something I would like to add from my experience as an athlete coach is that caloric intakes vary wildly from person to person. I am 5'10-, 155 lbs and need -2800 calories to maintain my weight. Women also tend to have lower caloric requirements, needing -700 calories less than men of similar sizes. I think the lower fat consumption observed in the women you mentioned is very comparable to the men's when adjusted for their caloric requirements.
Also, since each lb of fat is -3500 calories, we can estimate these people's daily fat reserve calories consumed, and speculate about their average true caloric intake by inference too!
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John
of COURSE you can't survive if you abide by the hunting and fishing regulations. That's what those regulations are intended to achieve. You're supposed to die if you're not paying taxes to the powers that be! I've known that since I was in high school. Poaching is known as -theft from the commons', It's the same thing as overgrazing the public pastures, or converting some of that pasture into your private garden. It might be allowed on a limited level, but if you actually start making a living that way, say, clearing 30k a year on top of your mere subsistence, they'll come to lock you up and if you resist, they'll try to kill you. If you escape, you'll be a fugitive, with people being paid to capture or kill you.
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of COURSE you can't survive if you abide by the hunting and fishing regulations. That's what those regulations are intended to achieve. You're supposed to die if you're not paying taxes to the powers that be! I've known that since I was in high school. Poaching is known as -theft from the commons', It's the same thing as overgrazing the public pastures, or converting some of that pasture into your private garden. It might be allowed on a limited level, but if you actually start making a living that way, say, clearing 30k a year on top of your mere subsistence, they'll come to lock you up and if you resist, they'll try to kill you. If you escape, you'll be a fugitive, with people being paid to capture or kill you.
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John
this is only true if you let yourself be limited by the laws. as long as we have friges and freezers, living off of the land is quite easy. You shoot a moose, you've got meat for 6 months, but you get SICK of eating nothing but moose. So you also shoot an elk, you use netting to catch a lot of fish and waterfowl, Plant based stuff is kind of a loser, calorie wise, but you need the vitamins, minerals, and fiber, the change of taste and texture, so that you're not just eating jerky and dried fish, and nothing else. Sauces, and spices make all the difference in world.
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this is only true if you let yourself be limited by the laws. as long as we have friges and freezers, living off of the land is quite easy. You shoot a moose, you've got meat for 6 months, but you get SICK of eating nothing but moose. So you also shoot an elk, you use netting to catch a lot of fish and waterfowl, Plant based stuff is kind of a loser, calorie wise, but you need the vitamins, minerals, and fiber, the change of taste and texture, so that you're not just eating jerky and dried fish, and nothing else. Sauces, and spices make all the difference in world.
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Morel
This is one of the best view points on the subject. The vast majority of these so called wilderness experts would die just like anyone else out in the wild. Almost 100% of them.
How do we know this? Because those indigenous groups that existed on these lands that had thousands of years of practice and mastery in THEIR AREA suffered from death by starvation on a regular basis. If they struggled that much with a group of near perfect survivalists for their area, guess what youtube experts, you are dead. Without a doubt.
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This is one of the best view points on the subject. The vast majority of these so called wilderness experts would die just like anyone else out in the wild. Almost 100% of them.
How do we know this? Because those indigenous groups that existed on these lands that had thousands of years of practice and mastery in THEIR AREA suffered from death by starvation on a regular basis. If they struggled that much with a group of near perfect survivalists for their area, guess what youtube experts, you are dead. Without a doubt.
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Daniel
You touched on something that doesn't really come to light on these survival shows. The whole time you're gathering food and maintaining your camp, you're burning calories. I'm sure many edibles would actually send you into a calorie deficit collecting them. In a primitive survival situation, I think living alone would be nearly impossible unless one was in the right area and VERY skilled. Thank you for setting the record straight. It gives us something to think about when thinking -I could do that. -
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You touched on something that doesn't really come to light on these survival shows. The whole time you're gathering food and maintaining your camp, you're burning calories. I'm sure many edibles would actually send you into a calorie deficit collecting them. In a primitive survival situation, I think living alone would be nearly impossible unless one was in the right area and VERY skilled. Thank you for setting the record straight. It gives us something to think about when thinking -I could do that. -
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MasterFeiFongWong
Research all the plants in area that have highest calorie count and build a farm to cultivate them. :) Use bark and branches to build irrigation systems and build a water wheel contraption in lake connected to a bunch of cogs that are linked to ghetto wooden bike. So when you pedal it spins the water wheel in lake gathering up the water to top where it dumps it down hollowed out bark tubes that lead to farm where it waters it all: D
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Research all the plants in area that have highest calorie count and build a farm to cultivate them. :) Use bark and branches to build irrigation systems and build a water wheel contraption in lake connected to a bunch of cogs that are linked to ghetto wooden bike. So when you pedal it spins the water wheel in lake gathering up the water to top where it dumps it down hollowed out bark tubes that lead to farm where it waters it all: D
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Tony
Pine nuts provide most of the essential macro/micro nutrients to sustain life, and all pine tree nuts are edible. Considering the absolute abundance of coniferous trees in this area, it shouldn't be too hard to gather enough pine cones/nuts to help supplement the lean meat times. The cambium layer from the inner bark can also be used for carbohydrates, but suffers from the same caloric density limitations as cattails and many other wild edibles.
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Pine nuts provide most of the essential macro/micro nutrients to sustain life, and all pine tree nuts are edible. Considering the absolute abundance of coniferous trees in this area, it shouldn't be too hard to gather enough pine cones/nuts to help supplement the lean meat times. The cambium layer from the inner bark can also be used for carbohydrates, but suffers from the same caloric density limitations as cattails and many other wild edibles.
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Honey
What the heck did the Indians do? How did whole tribes survive. Is it the point that it can't be done in modern times? Is that it? With all the hunting laws and restrictions today you couldn't do it. So again I say, go out into the woods, bring food and gear, have a good time and go home. If you really get into a survival situation, do your best to live long enough to be rescued; that's survival today. Fair?
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What the heck did the Indians do? How did whole tribes survive. Is it the point that it can't be done in modern times? Is that it? With all the hunting laws and restrictions today you couldn't do it. So again I say, go out into the woods, bring food and gear, have a good time and go home. If you really get into a survival situation, do your best to live long enough to be rescued; that's survival today. Fair?
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