Best CPUs of 2021 (Gaming, Workstation, Budget, & Disappointment)
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Date: 2021-11-26
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Tony
Happy Thanksgiving Steve to you and your crew On another note I'm very happy with my upgrades and build. Currently have a 5950x/ASRock x470/32GB RAM/ RTX 3070/ ASUS 360hz LCD and I'm still using my older Corsair 230T case I love it, old but the airflow is great. I saw no reason to buy a new board, there is no benefit at all and probably for a few more years for GPUs to actually fully use PCI-e 4.0, hell even 3.0 is not fully taxed yet. And my current 970 EVO 1tb is very fast with PCI-e 3.0 game load times compared to 4.0 are the same or just 1-3 secs faster with 4.0 which to me is a huge waste of to upgrade a board just for that. Plus I'm confident that the new CPUs from AMD with the 3D V-Cache will work with 400 and 500 series boards, same socket and what it looks like to me is what the XT versions were, simple BIOS update and your good to go
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Happy Thanksgiving Steve to you and your crew On another note I'm very happy with my upgrades and build. Currently have a 5950x/ASRock x470/32GB RAM/ RTX 3070/ ASUS 360hz LCD and I'm still using my older Corsair 230T case I love it, old but the airflow is great. I saw no reason to buy a new board, there is no benefit at all and probably for a few more years for GPUs to actually fully use PCI-e 4.0, hell even 3.0 is not fully taxed yet. And my current 970 EVO 1tb is very fast with PCI-e 3.0 game load times compared to 4.0 are the same or just 1-3 secs faster with 4.0 which to me is a huge waste of to upgrade a board just for that. Plus I'm confident that the new CPUs from AMD with the 3D V-Cache will work with 400 and 500 series boards, same socket and what it looks like to me is what the XT versions were, simple BIOS update and your good to go
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Pwadigy
Is the Mobo content going to be in collab with with Buikdzoid? His recs have been amazing and I have either pulled the trigger on, or gotten others to pull triggers on motherboards he has recommended, and I have always been satisfied, and so have those I ve recommended motherboards to based on his content. He knows so much about Motherboards and has an Overclocker perspective that applies to both hardcore OCers and daily tinkerers/enthusiasts while also being heavily mindful of price consciousness vs featuresets for a casual audience. E.g. he says things like this is the best priced motherboard if you like X, Y, Z; or If you want [motherboard feature], [other board] has the same thing but also offers [feature] and is cheaper
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Is the Mobo content going to be in collab with with Buikdzoid? His recs have been amazing and I have either pulled the trigger on, or gotten others to pull triggers on motherboards he has recommended, and I have always been satisfied, and so have those I ve recommended motherboards to based on his content. He knows so much about Motherboards and has an Overclocker perspective that applies to both hardcore OCers and daily tinkerers/enthusiasts while also being heavily mindful of price consciousness vs featuresets for a casual audience. E.g. he says things like this is the best priced motherboard if you like X, Y, Z; or If you want [motherboard feature], [other board] has the same thing but also offers [feature] and is cheaper
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Yan
My opinion on the 12600k is kinda mixed tbh. It's definitely the best intel and gaming cpu rn, however, I am not sure you can consider it the best buy for a gamer at the end of the day.
The motherboard and cooler prices are highly increased when you opt into buying a 12600k, even if you stay in ddr4, which I think all gamers should do.
A 5600x stays very close in performance, consumes less than half of the power of the 12600k and can even run really well on a budget b450 motherboard because it doesn't require good vrms for being so low power.
The 12600k consumes 140W at full load, which is 15W more than a 5900x. The 5600x consumes 65W, which allows it to even be run on the Intel like stock cooler that comes with it.
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My opinion on the 12600k is kinda mixed tbh. It's definitely the best intel and gaming cpu rn, however, I am not sure you can consider it the best buy for a gamer at the end of the day.
The motherboard and cooler prices are highly increased when you opt into buying a 12600k, even if you stay in ddr4, which I think all gamers should do.
A 5600x stays very close in performance, consumes less than half of the power of the 12600k and can even run really well on a budget b450 motherboard because it doesn't require good vrms for being so low power.
The 12600k consumes 140W at full load, which is 15W more than a 5900x. The 5600x consumes 65W, which allows it to even be run on the Intel like stock cooler that comes with it.
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excited
I wouldn't say the xt was a waste. It wasn't meant to be an upgrade but if you hadn't bought a 3000x then it was a slightly better CPU just because they could. It would only have caused confusion if they had kept the same names and had 10-15% more performance. Buying a used CPU you wouldn't know which version you were getting but by adding the xt series it was much clearer and they cost the same as the x a few months after launch. It also made the x series go down in price quite quickly, which is always a plus for consumers. I could buy a 3900x for 450-500 Euros in early summer of 2020.
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I wouldn't say the xt was a waste. It wasn't meant to be an upgrade but if you hadn't bought a 3000x then it was a slightly better CPU just because they could. It would only have caused confusion if they had kept the same names and had 10-15% more performance. Buying a used CPU you wouldn't know which version you were getting but by adding the xt series it was much clearer and they cost the same as the x a few months after launch. It also made the x series go down in price quite quickly, which is always a plus for consumers. I could buy a 3900x for 450-500 Euros in early summer of 2020.
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Mark
Intel 12th gen's power efficiency is actually good and the E-core does as advertised in most situation. The 12900k is just an outlier that they had no choice but to run the chip into factory overclocked level of power efficiency range in order to compete with the 5950x, that's why it scaled so horribly. AMD can easily just implement some minor tweak to get the top performing crown back. Intel 12th gen's strength really isn't in the high end but near the mid-range segment of the market which is fine as it's where most sales come from. This is a very healthy market indeed.
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Intel 12th gen's power efficiency is actually good and the E-core does as advertised in most situation. The 12900k is just an outlier that they had no choice but to run the chip into factory overclocked level of power efficiency range in order to compete with the 5950x, that's why it scaled so horribly. AMD can easily just implement some minor tweak to get the top performing crown back. Intel 12th gen's strength really isn't in the high end but near the mid-range segment of the market which is fine as it's where most sales come from. This is a very healthy market indeed.
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Joe
very excited to see intel pulling weight and releasing products that are interesting and worth a look at. i guess the one problem users have who are looking to upgrade to Intel's 12th gen is the platform change, requiring a motherboard change and new DDR5 modules that are in few supply. however if you're someone looking to build a new pc and price isn't an issue, consider an Intel 12th gen especially the 12600 if you are building a gaming rig.
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very excited to see intel pulling weight and releasing products that are interesting and worth a look at. i guess the one problem users have who are looking to upgrade to Intel's 12th gen is the platform change, requiring a motherboard change and new DDR5 modules that are in few supply. however if you're someone looking to build a new pc and price isn't an issue, consider an Intel 12th gen especially the 12600 if you are building a gaming rig.
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Nigel
I got my 5600X for 287 (SGD 394) when it experienced a momentary price drop on Amazon months before Alder Lake leaks started hyping the industry. Alder Lake would unfortunately be out of my reach anyway since any major platform upgrades for me can only occur once every 6-8 years or longer.
The best part about it was that I didn't really need an entire platform change, as I got the B450 together with my 2700X back in 2018.
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I got my 5600X for 287 (SGD 394) when it experienced a momentary price drop on Amazon months before Alder Lake leaks started hyping the industry. Alder Lake would unfortunately be out of my reach anyway since any major platform upgrades for me can only occur once every 6-8 years or longer.
The best part about it was that I didn't really need an entire platform change, as I got the B450 together with my 2700X back in 2018.
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Krzysztof
How is the 12600k affordable with those motherboard and DDR5 prices :/. I don't get the 12th gen hype. How are they good if they barely surpass zen 3 in terms of performance costing an arm and a leg for the whole platform? EDIT: Also the i3 10100 is (almost) the previous i7 7700 so for that price this is a really good budget option. Especially the 10100f (the 10100f lacks 2MB of cache tho).
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How is the 12600k affordable with those motherboard and DDR5 prices :/. I don't get the 12th gen hype. How are they good if they barely surpass zen 3 in terms of performance costing an arm and a leg for the whole platform? EDIT: Also the i3 10100 is (almost) the previous i7 7700 so for that price this is a really good budget option. Especially the 10100f (the 10100f lacks 2MB of cache tho).
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anon763
Enough to warrant a dedicated solar panel on your roof
By my calculations, based on my local annual mean solar irradiance (reported as 15.5MJ/m 2 /day), and assuming a 30% efficient solar panel, you'd need 4.5 square meters ( 50 square feet) to power a full-blast 12900K, ignoring batteries.
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Enough to warrant a dedicated solar panel on your roof
By my calculations, based on my local annual mean solar irradiance (reported as 15.5MJ/m 2 /day), and assuming a 30% efficient solar panel, you'd need 4.5 square meters ( 50 square feet) to power a full-blast 12900K, ignoring batteries.
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Nathanael
Was really close to buying the 12600 for my current build. But z690 Boards were inhibitingly expensive. 5600G is what I went with. Board is much much cheaper, since its B450 compatible and it can work as a gpu stand in for another year or so, until gpu prices are anything close to feasible.
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Was really close to buying the 12600 for my current build. But z690 Boards were inhibitingly expensive. 5600G is what I went with. Board is much much cheaper, since its B450 compatible and it can work as a gpu stand in for another year or so, until gpu prices are anything close to feasible.
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