MSI MEG X570 ACE Motherboard VRM Review & Features
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Mr
I bought a Cross Hair for the 2700X. I ran into problems with it. The thing would lose the ssd I went with for the boot drive. I went through the Reddits searching for the answer and I suppose I found it. This was a problem repeatedly asked about. I tried the different solutions and it still occasionally fails to boot. You have to go back into the BIOS and reset some of it. I use the easy tuning wizard, due to the fact that I am a major noob when it comes to computers. I built it and loaded up Windows and did some updates, but I by no means an expert. I suppose I will live with it. Its could just be trolls out to troll Or fanboys of some other brand, but the general agreement was that even though AMD did have some glitches with memory, ASUS themselves did not do as good a job as other brands when it came to software. At least on this board, and I always heard that software was their strong suite. I don't know what to think, but it kind of soured me on ASUS for a bit. I want to try the new 3000, but I might steer clear of ASUS and go with a more nooby friendly version. I cannot use allot of what ASUS has to offer in their BIOS settings, and the Crosshair was the first board I ever purchased from them. I think I will keep the board to learn on, but I want something more reliable, even if it is not as fancy.
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I bought a Cross Hair for the 2700X. I ran into problems with it. The thing would lose the ssd I went with for the boot drive. I went through the Reddits searching for the answer and I suppose I found it. This was a problem repeatedly asked about. I tried the different solutions and it still occasionally fails to boot. You have to go back into the BIOS and reset some of it. I use the easy tuning wizard, due to the fact that I am a major noob when it comes to computers. I built it and loaded up Windows and did some updates, but I by no means an expert. I suppose I will live with it. Its could just be trolls out to troll Or fanboys of some other brand, but the general agreement was that even though AMD did have some glitches with memory, ASUS themselves did not do as good a job as other brands when it came to software. At least on this board, and I always heard that software was their strong suite. I don't know what to think, but it kind of soured me on ASUS for a bit. I want to try the new 3000, but I might steer clear of ASUS and go with a more nooby friendly version. I cannot use allot of what ASUS has to offer in their BIOS settings, and the Crosshair was the first board I ever purchased from them. I think I will keep the board to learn on, but I want something more reliable, even if it is not as fancy.
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Gareth
30 minutes of non-sensical ramblings from a guy's perspective based on something he's educated about due to his work, to people that aren't educated. not all of us care about 'MOSFETS', VRAM discombobulators, and not to cross the PCIe streams. What makes a good tech video is short and concise explanations about each element so that people understand - that's also the entire point of a review as to where the reviewer is coming from rather than going on about server parts and such of which consumers literally don't care about. Most of the things said don't even need to be known. All I'm saying is that it's a bit too much jargon and shpiel, which makes it bad. You don't need more than 15 minutes to give a basic explanation on a motherboard, where it stacks up in the current motherboard rankings, pro's, con's, and whether or not it's worth the money at the end of it all - which is ultimately the most important part. People want professional opinions so that they know their options.
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30 minutes of non-sensical ramblings from a guy's perspective based on something he's educated about due to his work, to people that aren't educated. not all of us care about 'MOSFETS', VRAM discombobulators, and not to cross the PCIe streams. What makes a good tech video is short and concise explanations about each element so that people understand - that's also the entire point of a review as to where the reviewer is coming from rather than going on about server parts and such of which consumers literally don't care about. Most of the things said don't even need to be known. All I'm saying is that it's a bit too much jargon and shpiel, which makes it bad. You don't need more than 15 minutes to give a basic explanation on a motherboard, where it stacks up in the current motherboard rankings, pro's, con's, and whether or not it's worth the money at the end of it all - which is ultimately the most important part. People want professional opinions so that they know their options.
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mariushmedias
27: 00 The double life for every 10 degrees Celsius rule (well, approximation) applies ONLY to electrolytic capacitors. For polymer capacitors, a more accurate formula is L = Lorig x 10 [ (Tm -Ta) / 20 ] where Lorig is original life, Tm is capacitor temperature rating and Ta is the ambient temperature. So for example, a 5k 105c capacitor used at 75c all the time is estimated to function for L = 5000 x 10 [(105-75)/20] = 5000 x 10 1. 5 = 5000 x 31. 5 = 157. 5k hours. So even a 2k 105c polymer capacitor is perfectly adequate for motherboards. Buildzoid it's the second time I hear you saying that for polymer capacitors. You're pointlessly scaring people.
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27: 00 The double life for every 10 degrees Celsius rule (well, approximation) applies ONLY to electrolytic capacitors. For polymer capacitors, a more accurate formula is L = Lorig x 10 [ (Tm -Ta) / 20 ] where Lorig is original life, Tm is capacitor temperature rating and Ta is the ambient temperature. So for example, a 5k 105c capacitor used at 75c all the time is estimated to function for L = 5000 x 10 [(105-75)/20] = 5000 x 10 1. 5 = 5000 x 31. 5 = 157. 5k hours. So even a 2k 105c polymer capacitor is perfectly adequate for motherboards. Buildzoid it's the second time I hear you saying that for polymer capacitors. You're pointlessly scaring people.
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dynastes
My favorite board, personally. I don't mind the four SATA ports either. Seems strange, sure, but on the other hand there's really enough M. 2 on X570 boards to compensate, especially if, like me, you won't use HDDs anymore anyway. What do you think about the cooling solution with the heatpipe running between chipset and vrm coolers? Sorry, if you mentioned it, but keeping my concentration up after work proves more difficult than I thought: D Anyway, nice that you are doing these vids for GN frequently now. Good stuff.
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My favorite board, personally. I don't mind the four SATA ports either. Seems strange, sure, but on the other hand there's really enough M. 2 on X570 boards to compensate, especially if, like me, you won't use HDDs anymore anyway. What do you think about the cooling solution with the heatpipe running between chipset and vrm coolers? Sorry, if you mentioned it, but keeping my concentration up after work proves more difficult than I thought: D Anyway, nice that you are doing these vids for GN frequently now. Good stuff.
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Laharl
Why do manufacturers still keep on putting overclocking gimmicks which arent even any good? OC is a fine tunning process, not a generic press to go faster one fits all thing. I remember trying the automatic oc on my 1055T when i first bought and panicking one i booted and saw 1. 5V for 3. 3ghz. just in case the boost clock is 3. 5 1. 45v, and after disabling boost ive been running at 3. 5ghz 1. 35v for 10 years. Auto-overclockers are crap.
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Why do manufacturers still keep on putting overclocking gimmicks which arent even any good? OC is a fine tunning process, not a generic press to go faster one fits all thing. I remember trying the automatic oc on my 1055T when i first bought and panicking one i booted and saw 1. 5V for 3. 3ghz. just in case the boost clock is 3. 5 1. 45v, and after disabling boost ive been running at 3. 5ghz 1. 35v for 10 years. Auto-overclockers are crap.
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Andrew
Love these reviews, though of course I'm going to ask for a bit less rambling. As a specific suggestion, when covering vrm currents and efficiency, I'd much rather you just state approximate power output for each current range 100A, that's about 120 watts. Let us figure out the current drawn by different CPUs and overclock configurations and scenarios, rather than rambling on and on about different core counts and such.
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Love these reviews, though of course I'm going to ask for a bit less rambling. As a specific suggestion, when covering vrm currents and efficiency, I'd much rather you just state approximate power output for each current range 100A, that's about 120 watts. Let us figure out the current drawn by different CPUs and overclock configurations and scenarios, rather than rambling on and on about different core counts and such.
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Verpal
I believe this Buildzoid is actually not the buildzoid we know, this is a clone manufactured by GamerNexus in GN dungeon. True Buildzoid does not produce 30 minutes video, true Buildzoid do hours long mid night rambling that viewers are suppose to pick up scraps and piece on their own, unfiltered, unedited, and unchained. Builzoid (or clone, if you are being held hostage, blink twice in the start of your next video.
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I believe this Buildzoid is actually not the buildzoid we know, this is a clone manufactured by GamerNexus in GN dungeon. True Buildzoid does not produce 30 minutes video, true Buildzoid do hours long mid night rambling that viewers are suppose to pick up scraps and piece on their own, unfiltered, unedited, and unchained. Builzoid (or clone, if you are being held hostage, blink twice in the start of your next video.
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PAPI
thanks for the analysis, Buildzoid. for now, i'll go with the Aorus Master cause it has the Infineon controller and also REAL phases, even though i hate their BIOS design. I'll wait for the real use case of the Master and if it's ok, i'll go for it. as far as asus and msi are concerned. not for me. i'm prett sure that asus and msi prices will be equal or higher that aorus, which would be strange.
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thanks for the analysis, Buildzoid. for now, i'll go with the Aorus Master cause it has the Infineon controller and also REAL phases, even though i hate their BIOS design. I'll wait for the real use case of the Master and if it's ok, i'll go for it. as far as asus and msi are concerned. not for me. i'm prett sure that asus and msi prices will be equal or higher that aorus, which would be strange.
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Greenfox
Thanks. This helped me avoid buying a way to overprized board. The explanation is sound for me and i was wavering between a taichi 570 and this. The daisy chain should work better for the ryzen 9 3900x for me. Now i only need to wait for those cores to come into the market again. before 3950x comes and i fell pressured to take that. Even if 16 cores are way to much for anything i would do.
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Thanks. This helped me avoid buying a way to overprized board. The explanation is sound for me and i was wavering between a taichi 570 and this. The daisy chain should work better for the ryzen 9 3900x for me. Now i only need to wait for those cores to come into the market again. before 3950x comes and i fell pressured to take that. Even if 16 cores are way to much for anything i would do.
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zanzabar4ky7
Can you stop talking shit about the dual EPS ports. They need them to be ATX compliant since you are only allowed to pull 150W from an 8pin EPS. They will do way more, but AMD and intel get mad at you if you want to spec something to run over 150W and only have 1 8 pin. It is like nvidia and the current balancing for 150W per pci-e 8 pin.
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Can you stop talking shit about the dual EPS ports. They need them to be ATX compliant since you are only allowed to pull 150W from an 8pin EPS. They will do way more, but AMD and intel get mad at you if you want to spec something to run over 150W and only have 1 8 pin. It is like nvidia and the current balancing for 150W per pci-e 8 pin.
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