Dead On Arrival: Intel i9-10900X CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 3900X, 3950X, 9900K
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Milo
On a side note, if anyone wants to know what 128GB RAM works with a Gigabyte Aorus Z390 board, i just purchased a Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Master with a Intel i9-9900KS and a Cooler Master 212 RGB Cooler and the Corsair Vengeance LPX 128GB (4 x 32GB) works perfect right out of the box, i have BIOS version F9, I know that F10 is out but as even the Gigabyte manual says that you should not upgrade the BIOS if everything is working properly, so i wont test my luck and i'll stick with F9 for now. Also the i9-9900KS seems to run at 5. 01 GHz right out of the box WITHOUT any OC settings or adjustments, just stock settings, 3D Mark, task manager, and Sisoft Sandra all show that its running at 5 GHz on all 16 threads, which is pretty impressive right out of the box. As for the Gigabyte board, i am happy with it, much like many other Gigabyte boards. They just work. Anyway if you are looking for 32GB modules that work with a Z390 chipset, these Corsair Vengeance LPX are great. i have pushed the system with 800 browser tabs open, Roxio BD creator open, CoD running in the background, Adobe Premiere open on one monitor, 3D Mark running on another monitor, CrystalDisk and a few other programs running on a 3rd monitor and VLC player playing a movie on a 4th screen and i was only able to get 19% memory usage and 62% CPU usage across all 16 threads, which is telling me that this system will be able to handle pretty much anything i throw at it for the next few years, and i am running a lowly pair of RX 480 8GB GPUs on a Corsair AX1500i PSU. Hope that helps anyone wondering if 32GB modules work in a Z390 as Gigabytes QVC list only goes to 16GB modules and it says to check with memory manufactures for compatibility of 32GB modules, which seems like a cowards way out, passes the hot potato so to speak, so i took a chance and spent nearly 700 on RAM and tried this Corsair 4 pack from NewEgg and it works great. Also the i9-9900KS seems to be sold out in many places, i can tell you that Micro Center still has some in stock as of this past Friday the 13th, 2019.
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On a side note, if anyone wants to know what 128GB RAM works with a Gigabyte Aorus Z390 board, i just purchased a Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Master with a Intel i9-9900KS and a Cooler Master 212 RGB Cooler and the Corsair Vengeance LPX 128GB (4 x 32GB) works perfect right out of the box, i have BIOS version F9, I know that F10 is out but as even the Gigabyte manual says that you should not upgrade the BIOS if everything is working properly, so i wont test my luck and i'll stick with F9 for now. Also the i9-9900KS seems to run at 5. 01 GHz right out of the box WITHOUT any OC settings or adjustments, just stock settings, 3D Mark, task manager, and Sisoft Sandra all show that its running at 5 GHz on all 16 threads, which is pretty impressive right out of the box. As for the Gigabyte board, i am happy with it, much like many other Gigabyte boards. They just work. Anyway if you are looking for 32GB modules that work with a Z390 chipset, these Corsair Vengeance LPX are great. i have pushed the system with 800 browser tabs open, Roxio BD creator open, CoD running in the background, Adobe Premiere open on one monitor, 3D Mark running on another monitor, CrystalDisk and a few other programs running on a 3rd monitor and VLC player playing a movie on a 4th screen and i was only able to get 19% memory usage and 62% CPU usage across all 16 threads, which is telling me that this system will be able to handle pretty much anything i throw at it for the next few years, and i am running a lowly pair of RX 480 8GB GPUs on a Corsair AX1500i PSU. Hope that helps anyone wondering if 32GB modules work in a Z390 as Gigabytes QVC list only goes to 16GB modules and it says to check with memory manufactures for compatibility of 32GB modules, which seems like a cowards way out, passes the hot potato so to speak, so i took a chance and spent nearly 700 on RAM and tried this Corsair 4 pack from NewEgg and it works great. Also the i9-9900KS seems to be sold out in many places, i can tell you that Micro Center still has some in stock as of this past Friday the 13th, 2019.
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Mike
This looks like it might be a theme for a few years at least lol Intel might have some better products hidden away, but despite being hammered in the market place admitting they could have launched much better chips but instead CHOSE to just rip people off year after year because they could when there was no competition would be approaching financial suicide in the consumer market at least, and possibly with large SI's whose shareholders will realise how much MORE they could have made AMD is winning the desktop, the HEDT and the server battles. The console market is pretty much AMD and ARM now so there is only laptops really where they have any dominance which is AMDs big mistake IMO, they should have ALWAYS launched a line of top flight mobile chips with the latest chiplets AND a cheaper line with the previous gen chiplets and then intel would be struggling even with laptops and notebooks. They just need to get AMD chips into home NAS boxes and intel will be busking in an underpass to make money lol
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This looks like it might be a theme for a few years at least lol Intel might have some better products hidden away, but despite being hammered in the market place admitting they could have launched much better chips but instead CHOSE to just rip people off year after year because they could when there was no competition would be approaching financial suicide in the consumer market at least, and possibly with large SI's whose shareholders will realise how much MORE they could have made AMD is winning the desktop, the HEDT and the server battles. The console market is pretty much AMD and ARM now so there is only laptops really where they have any dominance which is AMDs big mistake IMO, they should have ALWAYS launched a line of top flight mobile chips with the latest chiplets AND a cheaper line with the previous gen chiplets and then intel would be struggling even with laptops and notebooks. They just need to get AMD chips into home NAS boxes and intel will be busking in an underpass to make money lol
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Marcus
Sorry for off Topic but I'm in trouble and don't know what to do. My Lanovo 10 tab went crazy at 4. 30am this morning while watching Google YouTube, message came on screen saying GBOARD not responding, this is the keyboard. At the same time Google play was updating Google when this happened, the tab rebooted but I'm unable to access it as it's password protected and needs a keyboard which no longer works. So I have no Internet access except through phone and all my emails passwords and personal data and family photos are on it. I'm f d because unlike a PC I have no way to access the file system externally. It also seems that Google chrome has Mucked up big time with faulty update on Google Chrome. Any Ideas people, I'm disabled and house bound and my Lanovo is the only access to the outside world.
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Sorry for off Topic but I'm in trouble and don't know what to do. My Lanovo 10 tab went crazy at 4. 30am this morning while watching Google YouTube, message came on screen saying GBOARD not responding, this is the keyboard. At the same time Google play was updating Google when this happened, the tab rebooted but I'm unable to access it as it's password protected and needs a keyboard which no longer works. So I have no Internet access except through phone and all my emails passwords and personal data and family photos are on it. I'm f d because unlike a PC I have no way to access the file system externally. It also seems that Google chrome has Mucked up big time with faulty update on Google Chrome. Any Ideas people, I'm disabled and house bound and my Lanovo is the only access to the outside world.
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Joe
Is Intel going to release something better than the 990ks for gaming? I slept on the release and now everyone is selling the 9900ks at crazy mark ups. If I could get it at retail, I would. Looking to get the best intel cpu for gaming and best nvidea gpu for gaming. Current build is outdated. My set up: built in December/2017 -8700k cpu overclocked to 4. 8 w/1. 25 core volt (not delidded) -EK-MLC Phoenix 280mm AIO w/cpu block (highest temps on 1 hr stress test 71 C. Idle at 31-33 C) -1080ti ftw3 hybrid (AIO w/fan on gpu) -G. skill z trident 16gb (2x8) 14-14-14-34 ram ddr4 3200 (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW) -960 pro 512gb m. 2 -Seagate firecuda 2 Tb sshd -Evga 850w p2 psu -Phanteks Enthoo Pro m se - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC) Z370 ATX Motherboard
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Is Intel going to release something better than the 990ks for gaming? I slept on the release and now everyone is selling the 9900ks at crazy mark ups. If I could get it at retail, I would. Looking to get the best intel cpu for gaming and best nvidea gpu for gaming. Current build is outdated. My set up: built in December/2017 -8700k cpu overclocked to 4. 8 w/1. 25 core volt (not delidded) -EK-MLC Phoenix 280mm AIO w/cpu block (highest temps on 1 hr stress test 71 C. Idle at 31-33 C) -1080ti ftw3 hybrid (AIO w/fan on gpu) -G. skill z trident 16gb (2x8) 14-14-14-34 ram ddr4 3200 (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW) -960 pro 512gb m. 2 -Seagate firecuda 2 Tb sshd -Evga 850w p2 psu -Phanteks Enthoo Pro m se - ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero (Wi-Fi AC) Z370 ATX Motherboard
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Maddog
I'm still getting a 100% success rate for max performance in games with a 150 plus FPS and good ok AM D 1800x with no overclocking. In what they call intense games the 1800x only ranges 15 20% plus use when using a Gforce 2070 video card. There is no need to upgrade or overclock for any of today's games yet for me. I even have my video. Are in adaptive speed so it's never at too speed and to keep fps down to 144 for sync with my 49 ultra widescreen monitor. Why people overclock or need that too line flu when they are barely used I don't understand. Albeit I have 32GB ram and a very good power supply and too gaming motherboad. It all makes a difference. Power supply is key. And forgive me for the dang autocorrect.
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I'm still getting a 100% success rate for max performance in games with a 150 plus FPS and good ok AM D 1800x with no overclocking. In what they call intense games the 1800x only ranges 15 20% plus use when using a Gforce 2070 video card. There is no need to upgrade or overclock for any of today's games yet for me. I even have my video. Are in adaptive speed so it's never at too speed and to keep fps down to 144 for sync with my 49 ultra widescreen monitor. Why people overclock or need that too line flu when they are barely used I don't understand. Albeit I have 32GB ram and a very good power supply and too gaming motherboad. It all makes a difference. Power supply is key. And forgive me for the dang autocorrect.
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Robert
A. SMALL. request First though, excellent benchmarking, good sir. Outstanding. Eminently laudable. The request: I'm suffering from advanced degenerative eye disease. Slowly, gradually, getting less and less able to see fine print. It would help a lot if your charts could have 3 additional features. [1] Dark blue background for INTEL stats (behind the lettering, or the 'whole bar' [2] Dark red background for the AMD. Or green. Something not blue, and dark. [3] A bold, yellow asterisk. or three. next to every statistic which is overclocked. Nothing for stock. That's it! Any and all attempts to make this happen in the future will be much appreciated. Yours, GoatGuy
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A. SMALL. request First though, excellent benchmarking, good sir. Outstanding. Eminently laudable. The request: I'm suffering from advanced degenerative eye disease. Slowly, gradually, getting less and less able to see fine print. It would help a lot if your charts could have 3 additional features. [1] Dark blue background for INTEL stats (behind the lettering, or the 'whole bar' [2] Dark red background for the AMD. Or green. Something not blue, and dark. [3] A bold, yellow asterisk. or three. next to every statistic which is overclocked. Nothing for stock. That's it! Any and all attempts to make this happen in the future will be much appreciated. Yours, GoatGuy
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Arish
Does anyone get the feeling that Steve purposely attempts to make things sound complicated. I love the content, don't get me wrong. I just feel that Steve seems to make things sound more complicated than they really are. Like how he delivers his content. Very few pauses. Lots of acronyms. Lots of model number and number rambling in general. people that talk like this have a fear of being misunderstood and instead of slowing down and making things simple. They lay everything on the table, ramble a lot, talk fast and attempt give you more information than you require. Overcompensating and eventually ending up being misunderstood
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Does anyone get the feeling that Steve purposely attempts to make things sound complicated. I love the content, don't get me wrong. I just feel that Steve seems to make things sound more complicated than they really are. Like how he delivers his content. Very few pauses. Lots of acronyms. Lots of model number and number rambling in general. people that talk like this have a fear of being misunderstood and instead of slowing down and making things simple. They lay everything on the table, ramble a lot, talk fast and attempt give you more information than you require. Overcompensating and eventually ending up being misunderstood
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Wracky
Have you tested SOTTR on High/Highest instead of medium? Not to more GPU bottleneck it. at 1080p it will still be CPU bottlenecked, , but because the game has more to do, CPU wise, on higher settings. This is why SOTTR benefits from more cores. Source: A Nixxes dev told me (He's so proud of his MT implementation: P). It explains the massively different picture for SOTTR painted by for instance, Hardware Unboxed: ) Should be interesting to look at.
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Have you tested SOTTR on High/Highest instead of medium? Not to more GPU bottleneck it. at 1080p it will still be CPU bottlenecked, , but because the game has more to do, CPU wise, on higher settings. This is why SOTTR benefits from more cores. Source: A Nixxes dev told me (He's so proud of his MT implementation: P). It explains the massively different picture for SOTTR painted by for instance, Hardware Unboxed: ) Should be interesting to look at.
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depth386
Intel's feet are definetely on thin ice. I feel like the best Intel HEDT CPU to bench would be the 10920XE or 10940XE as they should be able to game as well as the 10900X, basically a hair behind a 9900K and still sort of be an HEDT chip for gamer first power users. Basically, I feel Jayz made a mistake with Nebula. Not that he should have gone AMD for such an insane build. He should have gone slightly less cores and slightly higher clocks.
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Intel's feet are definetely on thin ice. I feel like the best Intel HEDT CPU to bench would be the 10920XE or 10940XE as they should be able to game as well as the 10900X, basically a hair behind a 9900K and still sort of be an HEDT chip for gamer first power users. Basically, I feel Jayz made a mistake with Nebula. Not that he should have gone AMD for such an insane build. He should have gone slightly less cores and slightly higher clocks.
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Sovyonok
The main problem with this cpu launch isn't even the cpus themselves, more like the platform that they are running on. The LGA 2066 and its respective x299 chipset its looking really last gen and its already on its last legs. This chip would be a great hybrid between a gaming cpu with decent core clocks while being good at productivity too, but x299 is just so god damn expensive and so last gen compared to x570 and trx40 (and even x399.
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The main problem with this cpu launch isn't even the cpus themselves, more like the platform that they are running on. The LGA 2066 and its respective x299 chipset its looking really last gen and its already on its last legs. This chip would be a great hybrid between a gaming cpu with decent core clocks while being good at productivity too, but x299 is just so god damn expensive and so last gen compared to x570 and trx40 (and even x399.
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