HW News - Intel Ray-Tracing Woes, EK's Not A Sham Water Blocks, Steam Deck Booming
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Date: 2022-07-30
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Mustache
It's a real common mistake to make - if I heard correctly, the reason it was 100x slower than it was supposed to be was that they were allocating everything into your normal, run of the mill CPU DRAM instead of the on-die cache. So not only was it not in the cache, it wasn't even on the GPU in VRAM, they were writing and reading from their scratch buffer back and forth across the PCI bus in slow as heck (relatively) DDR4. The fix? One line of code, the line that says which pool of memory do we allocate to they changed it from saying dram to saying chip-local.
Actually a really, really common mistake to make for regular game developers using Vulkan and/or DirectX 12, noob developers will often find that their supposedly lightning fast newfangled API is an order of magnitude slower than old reliable DX11, because in DX11 the driver decides where to allocate memory for you, and you can't possibly screw it up to store all of your mesh data in system ram by accident. Well, that, among other dumb as rocks pitfalls, also usually pertaining to memory management.
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It's a real common mistake to make - if I heard correctly, the reason it was 100x slower than it was supposed to be was that they were allocating everything into your normal, run of the mill CPU DRAM instead of the on-die cache. So not only was it not in the cache, it wasn't even on the GPU in VRAM, they were writing and reading from their scratch buffer back and forth across the PCI bus in slow as heck (relatively) DDR4. The fix? One line of code, the line that says which pool of memory do we allocate to they changed it from saying dram to saying chip-local.
Actually a really, really common mistake to make for regular game developers using Vulkan and/or DirectX 12, noob developers will often find that their supposedly lightning fast newfangled API is an order of magnitude slower than old reliable DX11, because in DX11 the driver decides where to allocate memory for you, and you can't possibly screw it up to store all of your mesh data in system ram by accident. Well, that, among other dumb as rocks pitfalls, also usually pertaining to memory management.
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MrVipitis
I read the title as a single sentence and thought you could report that Intel had planned and now cancelled premium graphics card with water cooling. Hoped that for a while, never materialized tho.
I repeated asked Intel about their drivers and testing. They told me that drivers will be WHQL certified and 'tested' internally. They never said what is tested, how or if those tests results are worth anything. They sepcifically declined to make any promises or guarantees with driver releases that are tested more extensively (think Nvidia Studio Driver releases being less frequent and often weeks later than Game Ready Releases, same drivers tho). But they told me they have a good relationship with Blackmagic Design and Adobe... Which essentially mean nothing.
Especially if they are preparing a feature to just download and apply 'partial patches' via the Arc Control software. So you aren't done loading whole driver releases anymore.
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I read the title as a single sentence and thought you could report that Intel had planned and now cancelled premium graphics card with water cooling. Hoped that for a while, never materialized tho.
I repeated asked Intel about their drivers and testing. They told me that drivers will be WHQL certified and 'tested' internally. They never said what is tested, how or if those tests results are worth anything. They sepcifically declined to make any promises or guarantees with driver releases that are tested more extensively (think Nvidia Studio Driver releases being less frequent and often weeks later than Game Ready Releases, same drivers tho). But they told me they have a good relationship with Blackmagic Design and Adobe... Which essentially mean nothing.
Especially if they are preparing a feature to just download and apply 'partial patches' via the Arc Control software. So you aren't done loading whole driver releases anymore.
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Polite
Hey Steve, I heard you hate ISPs. Look up the story about Charter Communications's tech who murdered the client in her home after stealing her credit cards and going on a spending spree, then Charter's lawyers forging documents to try to force her family into a secret arbitration that would only give her family the cost of her final bill, and then they sent her a 58 dollar bill for the service call in which she was murdered. They then continued to send her family bills, after which they sent them to collections. A jury found them to be negligent and didnt vet the employee as well as the various felonies Charter committed, and awarded the family 7 Billion dollars. That amount is likely to be lowered by a judge, however. I bet if any Charter customers were on that jury, they likely hated them, as do most people.
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Hey Steve, I heard you hate ISPs. Look up the story about Charter Communications's tech who murdered the client in her home after stealing her credit cards and going on a spending spree, then Charter's lawyers forging documents to try to force her family into a secret arbitration that would only give her family the cost of her final bill, and then they sent her a 58 dollar bill for the service call in which she was murdered. They then continued to send her family bills, after which they sent them to collections. A jury found them to be negligent and didnt vet the employee as well as the various felonies Charter committed, and awarded the family 7 Billion dollars. That amount is likely to be lowered by a judge, however. I bet if any Charter customers were on that jury, they likely hated them, as do most people.
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exxor9108
Your describing your internet woes is giving me PTSD flashbacks... I myself had a terrible ISP who thought he was the hotness, and trying to get him to fix ANYTHING was like walking on a minefield. Not to mention he was the ONLY provider of internet where I live, so he had a local monopoly. And if I raised my concern for the terrible connections, he had the power to just cut my services, AND STILL TAKE MY MONEY. Last I heard, this ISP got into some serious trouble. Like, _federal_ trouble. Thank goodness we have Starlink now.
Edit: Accidentally spelled heard as herd. lol
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Your describing your internet woes is giving me PTSD flashbacks... I myself had a terrible ISP who thought he was the hotness, and trying to get him to fix ANYTHING was like walking on a minefield. Not to mention he was the ONLY provider of internet where I live, so he had a local monopoly. And if I raised my concern for the terrible connections, he had the power to just cut my services, AND STILL TAKE MY MONEY. Last I heard, this ISP got into some serious trouble. Like, _federal_ trouble. Thank goodness we have Starlink now.
Edit: Accidentally spelled heard as herd. lol
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PharmaGiles
I don't seriously think anyone would buy a gold-plated EK waterblock actually thinking it was an investment, so I would cut them some slack and accept they're being super hyperbolic, tongue firmly in cheek, with their marketing. Personally I think they look horrible, and the mark-up is probably 1000 times the value of the gold (gold really isn't that expensive in the scheme of things, when you consider the actual mass needed to gold-plate a water block - maybe a few tens of milligrams?), but horses for courses and all that. Fundamentally it's no different than RGB.
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I don't seriously think anyone would buy a gold-plated EK waterblock actually thinking it was an investment, so I would cut them some slack and accept they're being super hyperbolic, tongue firmly in cheek, with their marketing. Personally I think they look horrible, and the mark-up is probably 1000 times the value of the gold (gold really isn't that expensive in the scheme of things, when you consider the actual mass needed to gold-plate a water block - maybe a few tens of milligrams?), but horses for courses and all that. Fundamentally it's no different than RGB.
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fluffy
Oh please do some meta analysis review and investigative reporting on ISPs in the Gamers Nexus format.
I currently have a business comcast account for my home internet connection and have been through FCC complaints regarding my previous residential accounts and comcast's mishandling thereof. I would be happy to provide all the details and copies of the correspondence and how improperly everything was managed, including comcast lying to the FCC during that arbitration.
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Oh please do some meta analysis review and investigative reporting on ISPs in the Gamers Nexus format.
I currently have a business comcast account for my home internet connection and have been through FCC complaints regarding my previous residential accounts and comcast's mishandling thereof. I would be happy to provide all the details and copies of the correspondence and how improperly everything was managed, including comcast lying to the FCC during that arbitration.
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ChrisGR93
yes you should do a very detailed video about ISPs and please don't be gentle they globally do the same bs.
(over a week trying with multiple calls to fix an unexpected problem and they simply avoiding me with a problem resolved text the next day without any explanation or an actual fix. Making me call every day and listen to the same parody that they'll send someone to check it)
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yes you should do a very detailed video about ISPs and please don't be gentle they globally do the same bs.
(over a week trying with multiple calls to fix an unexpected problem and they simply avoiding me with a problem resolved text the next day without any explanation or an actual fix. Making me call every day and listen to the same parody that they'll send someone to check it)
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Jacob
I would love ISPs to be much more regulated and transparent. I dropped spectrum because they wanted to charge me 90 a month for 400/20 that was dropping out multiple times a week for a few months. Only when I called to cancel did they say there is a 3 year contract.
I am now using T-Mobile Home Internet for 50 a month. Speeds are commonly around 200mbps or higher with 20-30 upload.
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I would love ISPs to be much more regulated and transparent. I dropped spectrum because they wanted to charge me 90 a month for 400/20 that was dropping out multiple times a week for a few months. Only when I called to cancel did they say there is a 3 year contract.
I am now using T-Mobile Home Internet for 50 a month. Speeds are commonly around 200mbps or higher with 20-30 upload.
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Dakoder
The FCC doesn't want you to have fast internet access so you can game, chat, watch videos, research, etc. They want it to track you and all your devices so if you don't toe the line with the newest idiotic thing then they'll cut off equipment and maybe even take you to a reeducation facility until you can learn to be a good little slave.
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The FCC doesn't want you to have fast internet access so you can game, chat, watch videos, research, etc. They want it to track you and all your devices so if you don't toe the line with the newest idiotic thing then they'll cut off equipment and maybe even take you to a reeducation facility until you can learn to be a good little slave.
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opium
I live in a rural area, my speed is 150 mbps down and maybe 15 to 20 up if....its working right. Typically its more around 50 down and 5 up. We only have one provider (its a monopoly in our area honestly) we recently have watched them laying fiber down the main road on both sides so hopefully one day 10 years from now I will catch up.
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I live in a rural area, my speed is 150 mbps down and maybe 15 to 20 up if....its working right. Typically its more around 50 down and 5 up. We only have one provider (its a monopoly in our area honestly) we recently have watched them laying fiber down the main road on both sides so hopefully one day 10 years from now I will catch up.
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Jonathan
Anyone with a 3090 actually excited to for the 4090? Just doesn't seem like we have the games to really enjoy the upgrade, nevermind pricing and power draw. I don't think I'm really enthusiastic for any tech this gen. More interested to see what will happen next gen, which is like 2-3 years off
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Anyone with a 3090 actually excited to for the 4090? Just doesn't seem like we have the games to really enjoy the upgrade, nevermind pricing and power draw. I don't think I'm really enthusiastic for any tech this gen. More interested to see what will happen next gen, which is like 2-3 years off
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jamil
fun story, my ISP figured out they can increase the price i have to pay by forcing an arbitrary in house anti virus thing that you cant find information about on the internet, no shockers there when i refused to even touch it.
it increases my internet price about 8 times.
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fun story, my ISP figured out they can increase the price i have to pay by forcing an arbitrary in house anti virus thing that you cant find information about on the internet, no shockers there when i refused to even touch it.
it increases my internet price about 8 times.
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Michael
I guess they think that you have a bigger incentive to upgrade if you're a couple of versions behind. I really don't want Windows 11 and I don't see why I need Windows 12. Upgrading can be painful for many. We have 100 down and 11 up for 50/month. It is fine for our needs.
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I guess they think that you have a bigger incentive to upgrade if you're a couple of versions behind. I really don't want Windows 11 and I don't see why I need Windows 12. Upgrading can be painful for many. We have 100 down and 11 up for 50/month. It is fine for our needs.
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Adderkleet
Gold was seen as immortal because it never rusts/tarnishes and it's really hard to dissolve - mercury is the easiest way to dissolve gold. Which is why Qin Shi Huang (the terracotta warriors guy) used to consume mercury... which is also (probably) why he went insane.
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Gold was seen as immortal because it never rusts/tarnishes and it's really hard to dissolve - mercury is the easiest way to dissolve gold. Which is why Qin Shi Huang (the terracotta warriors guy) used to consume mercury... which is also (probably) why he went insane.
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