AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D CPU Review & Benchmarks: Last Chance Upgrade
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Date: 2023-07-06
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Andr
I work in a computer shop here in Portugal and have been advocating for AMD for the last couple of years! Not because I'm a fanboy, but because I feel that AMD is better for both ME (has a user, I have upgraded myself to a 5800X3D), my business and my costumers... I haven't built a brand new computer based on an Intel CPU since 2019 mainly because of this aproach to socket/platform longevity! In the last few months I've been upgrading 1000, 2000 and even some 3000 series Ryzen's to 5000 and 5000X3D series Ryzen's. I do not like to tell a costumer that IF he wants to upgrade down the line his computer, he MUST change the mobo and maybe the RAM... and my approach to building and selling computers hav brought back the same costumers, his/her's familie's and friends! Most of them wanted an Intel i(insert model here), and I've explained that, with Intel, in a couple of years, when he decides to upgrade, he MUST change the motherboard... With AMD they simply need an free BIOS update, a new coat of thermal compound, and they got essentially a new computer... I do not force them on anything, but after explaining this point of view they always go for my recomendation and not once anyone tought or felt that they were robed of anything by going AMD. The best feeling now, that they want to upgrade their PC's, they feel happy that they do not need to change anything, not even the Windows instalation, other than the CPU, and their investment of a better top shelf AM4 board a few years ago came to be a better investment than any, un-upgradeable 1151 or 1200 socket board! This launch proves that, other than being better for the environment (by not tossing CPU's to the recicle bin), longevity is also a very good business... Lets hope AM5 follows this and keeps a good track record for AMD... Or that Intel learn's a lesson in humility and keeps their upgradeability for longer... It's a shame that this CPU does not launch outside US, but it's understandable... US is the biggest market...
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I work in a computer shop here in Portugal and have been advocating for AMD for the last couple of years! Not because I'm a fanboy, but because I feel that AMD is better for both ME (has a user, I have upgraded myself to a 5800X3D), my business and my costumers... I haven't built a brand new computer based on an Intel CPU since 2019 mainly because of this aproach to socket/platform longevity! In the last few months I've been upgrading 1000, 2000 and even some 3000 series Ryzen's to 5000 and 5000X3D series Ryzen's. I do not like to tell a costumer that IF he wants to upgrade down the line his computer, he MUST change the mobo and maybe the RAM... and my approach to building and selling computers hav brought back the same costumers, his/her's familie's and friends! Most of them wanted an Intel i(insert model here), and I've explained that, with Intel, in a couple of years, when he decides to upgrade, he MUST change the motherboard... With AMD they simply need an free BIOS update, a new coat of thermal compound, and they got essentially a new computer... I do not force them on anything, but after explaining this point of view they always go for my recomendation and not once anyone tought or felt that they were robed of anything by going AMD. The best feeling now, that they want to upgrade their PC's, they feel happy that they do not need to change anything, not even the Windows instalation, other than the CPU, and their investment of a better top shelf AM4 board a few years ago came to be a better investment than any, un-upgradeable 1151 or 1200 socket board! This launch proves that, other than being better for the environment (by not tossing CPU's to the recicle bin), longevity is also a very good business... Lets hope AM5 follows this and keeps a good track record for AMD... Or that Intel learn's a lesson in humility and keeps their upgradeability for longer... It's a shame that this CPU does not launch outside US, but it's understandable... US is the biggest market...
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Zen
Man, I really wanted one of these at launch, cause it would've made way more sense but in the current market this is one final gem for AM4. Still, where I live the 5800x3D can be had for only 40-50 more at this point, and while the performance improvement might not always justify the increase in price, the extra cores/threads will benefit newer titles as they become more optimized for 8c/16t seeing as the Xbox Series S/X & PS5 rely on 8 Zen 2 cores w/ SMT
On the flip side, I already own a 5600 (OC'ed via PBO to 4.65Ghz peak turbo/4.6Ghz all-core with a -10 offset & 10x scalar) and it's paired well with my 3060ti (also OC'ed to the point where it's damn near performing like a stock 3070). In Cyberpunk however, I see a CPU bind at 1080p High/1440p High w/ DLSS Quality. GPU utilization hovers between 75-90%, leaving some performance on the table. Sure, I could just run 1440p native res but I enjoy high refresh gaming & Cyberpunk is much more fun to me that way. Phantom Liberty is also supposed to rework the entire game, and as a result recommended specs have changed. For 1080p Ultra/60 fps, it calls for a i7-12700 or R7 7700. I'm really not so eager to move to a DDR5 platform, so my plan was to get a 5800x3D and call it a day - but my wife has been wanting me to build her a PC so now I've decided to reuse my current B450 + 5600 to get her started, and I'm gonna go for a 12700K + DDR4 Z690 (which still leaves room to drop in a Meteor Lake chip later on too). It'll be awesome to have 8c/16t with strong IPC & high clock speed, as well as 4 extra decent cores that can handle background stuff like browsing on Chrome.
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Man, I really wanted one of these at launch, cause it would've made way more sense but in the current market this is one final gem for AM4. Still, where I live the 5800x3D can be had for only 40-50 more at this point, and while the performance improvement might not always justify the increase in price, the extra cores/threads will benefit newer titles as they become more optimized for 8c/16t seeing as the Xbox Series S/X & PS5 rely on 8 Zen 2 cores w/ SMT
On the flip side, I already own a 5600 (OC'ed via PBO to 4.65Ghz peak turbo/4.6Ghz all-core with a -10 offset & 10x scalar) and it's paired well with my 3060ti (also OC'ed to the point where it's damn near performing like a stock 3070). In Cyberpunk however, I see a CPU bind at 1080p High/1440p High w/ DLSS Quality. GPU utilization hovers between 75-90%, leaving some performance on the table. Sure, I could just run 1440p native res but I enjoy high refresh gaming & Cyberpunk is much more fun to me that way. Phantom Liberty is also supposed to rework the entire game, and as a result recommended specs have changed. For 1080p Ultra/60 fps, it calls for a i7-12700 or R7 7700. I'm really not so eager to move to a DDR5 platform, so my plan was to get a 5800x3D and call it a day - but my wife has been wanting me to build her a PC so now I've decided to reuse my current B450 + 5600 to get her started, and I'm gonna go for a 12700K + DDR4 Z690 (which still leaves room to drop in a Meteor Lake chip later on too). It'll be awesome to have 8c/16t with strong IPC & high clock speed, as well as 4 extra decent cores that can handle background stuff like browsing on Chrome.
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mapesdhs
What this shows is that, as I said long ago, if the 5600X had competitve clocks (which it could easily have been given re the higher thermal budget per core) it would render the 5800X3D pointless. This is why a 5600X3D was never released in the first place. AMD went for the margin option. They learned from the 3300X that a potent low core count CPU just makes upper tier SKUs look silly. It's a pity because a non-gimped lower tier SKU like a proper 5600X3D would have allowed AMD to gain a lot more mindshare and marketshare, but it's too late now. These results prove one still does not need eight cores for gaming, proving what an upsell the 5800X3D always was. This is why there is no 7600X3D, and why there won't be unless AMD again ends up with some junk silicon it wants to fob off with gimped clocks. It all could have been so much better.
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What this shows is that, as I said long ago, if the 5600X had competitve clocks (which it could easily have been given re the higher thermal budget per core) it would render the 5800X3D pointless. This is why a 5600X3D was never released in the first place. AMD went for the margin option. They learned from the 3300X that a potent low core count CPU just makes upper tier SKUs look silly. It's a pity because a non-gimped lower tier SKU like a proper 5600X3D would have allowed AMD to gain a lot more mindshare and marketshare, but it's too late now. These results prove one still does not need eight cores for gaming, proving what an upsell the 5800X3D always was. This is why there is no 7600X3D, and why there won't be unless AMD again ends up with some junk silicon it wants to fob off with gimped clocks. It all could have been so much better.
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Stelios
After having the 5800X for 10 months, I saw it constantly being able to operate at the boost clock constantly only after an undervolt. There is a possibility that these downbinned chips can do the same, but they will require more testing. However, there is a chance that fewer of these chips will hit -25 or -30 on the curve optimizer and stable. But even with a -10 or -15 they should be way better off than stock, and they are attainable settings.
What is even more impressive is of course the gaming performance for the power consumption.
For those who wanted a capable but cheap CPU and have a microcenter near them it is a really good proposition...
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After having the 5800X for 10 months, I saw it constantly being able to operate at the boost clock constantly only after an undervolt. There is a possibility that these downbinned chips can do the same, but they will require more testing. However, there is a chance that fewer of these chips will hit -25 or -30 on the curve optimizer and stable. But even with a -10 or -15 they should be way better off than stock, and they are attainable settings.
What is even more impressive is of course the gaming performance for the power consumption.
For those who wanted a capable but cheap CPU and have a microcenter near them it is a really good proposition...
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MrHungman
I was gonna say the 5800x3d has been out a few years now but it s only been 15 months! Got mine in dec when prices started dropping for 330.. and added another 16gb of 3200c16 for 50 and am set for a long time. Made a huge difference at 4k with a top end gpu coming from a 3600. Fixed all my fps issues that the gpu didn t fix. And it s running on a 130 mb. Really amazing what an x470 and gen 3 pcie can still do with a mix of the fastest stuff this gen for gpu and last gen for cpu. I m wanting to say I won t need an upgrade for a decade but we ll see how UE5 games perform. Sure hope they ll be properly optimized for 3d cache
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I was gonna say the 5800x3d has been out a few years now but it s only been 15 months! Got mine in dec when prices started dropping for 330.. and added another 16gb of 3200c16 for 50 and am set for a long time. Made a huge difference at 4k with a top end gpu coming from a 3600. Fixed all my fps issues that the gpu didn t fix. And it s running on a 130 mb. Really amazing what an x470 and gen 3 pcie can still do with a mix of the fastest stuff this gen for gpu and last gen for cpu. I m wanting to say I won t need an upgrade for a decade but we ll see how UE5 games perform. Sure hope they ll be properly optimized for 3d cache
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power666
I had to do a double take at 12:25 tp get what was being said. The 13900K remains about equal in performance is in the context of resolution scaling from 1080p to 1440p. Just that the highlighted number of 209.8 and 294.9 are not equal in performance and something that'd stick out if you didn't catch the full context.
This is an interesting part at an interesting price. Shame that this is used mainly to clear out old inventory at the end of a platform's life time.
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I had to do a double take at 12:25 tp get what was being said. The 13900K remains about equal in performance is in the context of resolution scaling from 1080p to 1440p. Just that the highlighted number of 209.8 and 294.9 are not equal in performance and something that'd stick out if you didn't catch the full context.
This is an interesting part at an interesting price. Shame that this is used mainly to clear out old inventory at the end of a platform's life time.
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Tho
Weird launch aside, the reason I favor the x500/x600 processors over the other Ryzens is because of the 65W TDP, which this weirdly doesn't keep, so if it's a 105W processor, then I'll compare it to other 105W ones and it'll lose, besides the fact I'd never have interest on it when I'm the kind of person who never turns off his PC and often has it doing tasks, even when I'm asleep, meaning that seemingly small difference really adds up quickly in power bills.
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Weird launch aside, the reason I favor the x500/x600 processors over the other Ryzens is because of the 65W TDP, which this weirdly doesn't keep, so if it's a 105W processor, then I'll compare it to other 105W ones and it'll lose, besides the fact I'd never have interest on it when I'm the kind of person who never turns off his PC and often has it doing tasks, even when I'm asleep, meaning that seemingly small difference really adds up quickly in power bills.
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zCaptain
You're such an Intel shill...
Look dude, we all know the 5600 is a one-dimensional CPU. And the 5600X3D is a 3D CPU.
Therefore, all you need to tell us is how high the _z axis_ is, and we'll figure out the performance by ourselves, OK?
Stop trying to gaslight us, and just tell us if it's 3x the performance or more ...
No need for fancy testing, it's basic geometry
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You're such an Intel shill...
Look dude, we all know the 5600 is a one-dimensional CPU. And the 5600X3D is a 3D CPU.
Therefore, all you need to tell us is how high the _z axis_ is, and we'll figure out the performance by ourselves, OK?
Stop trying to gaslight us, and just tell us if it's 3x the performance or more ...
No need for fancy testing, it's basic geometry
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itech
This is a classic AMD move for reviving older platform. That's what they were known for in the olden days. I respect such move and encourage them to do more of that. If you have an older Ryzen 3000 series and maybe again time to upgrade. here is a good option. I'm glad they're still have 5600G still selling as that's another option to build a cheap system for workplace
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This is a classic AMD move for reviving older platform. That's what they were known for in the olden days. I respect such move and encourage them to do more of that. If you have an older Ryzen 3000 series and maybe again time to upgrade. here is a good option. I'm glad they're still have 5600G still selling as that's another option to build a cheap system for workplace
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Abaddan
idk if I'd even call it that since it's a Micro Center exclusive. You can get a 5800x3d on the used market for 250 and it's not gonna be price gouged like this will be since it's heavily more limited in availability, for the 95% of the US that doesn't live near a Micro Center. Still a cool cpu just the limited launch sucks.
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idk if I'd even call it that since it's a Micro Center exclusive. You can get a 5800x3d on the used market for 250 and it's not gonna be price gouged like this will be since it's heavily more limited in availability, for the 95% of the US that doesn't live near a Micro Center. Still a cool cpu just the limited launch sucks.
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QuantumS1ngularity
To me this is more like an experimental exercise for AMD - testing the waters of how additional 3D cache affects performance on low-end CPUs. And judging by the results, it's quite well actually. So now they can form entire gaming lineup with X3D CPUs for the new Ryzen 8000, starting from the entry level as well.
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To me this is more like an experimental exercise for AMD - testing the waters of how additional 3D cache affects performance on low-end CPUs. And judging by the results, it's quite well actually. So now they can form entire gaming lineup with X3D CPUs for the new Ryzen 8000, starting from the entry level as well.
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Placeholder
The gt710's are not irrelevant, they serve the crucial role of showing the decline of the gpu market! :)
I bought the 710 in 2017 being shocked that a 3-4 year old GPU could still cost about 80% of it's launch price. 6 more years and it now costs almost double. You know it's bad when you can invest into GPUs...
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The gt710's are not irrelevant, they serve the crucial role of showing the decline of the gpu market! :)
I bought the 710 in 2017 being shocked that a 3-4 year old GPU could still cost about 80% of it's launch price. 6 more years and it now costs almost double. You know it's bad when you can invest into GPUs...
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Tam s
Hmm interesting i was thinking about replacing my 7600X for a 7800X3D as i heard Paradox games like the V-cache and during huge wars in Europa Universalis 4 and Hearts of Iron 4 the game lags at max speed like hell. I guess i was wrong since there is basically no difference between a 7700 and a 7800X3D in Stellaris....
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Hmm interesting i was thinking about replacing my 7600X for a 7800X3D as i heard Paradox games like the V-cache and during huge wars in Europa Universalis 4 and Hearts of Iron 4 the game lags at max speed like hell. I guess i was wrong since there is basically no difference between a 7700 and a 7800X3D in Stellaris....
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theft
Yup - it's sick. I knew it would be.
There are a _few_ Micro Center stores within driving distance of me (one even within public transit distance, since I live in Brooklyn) and I'm tempted to get one and put together a sick AM4 gaming build and stick an older GPU in there for my 12yo cousin to Fortnite with.
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Yup - it's sick. I knew it would be.
There are a _few_ Micro Center stores within driving distance of me (one even within public transit distance, since I live in Brooklyn) and I'm tempted to get one and put together a sick AM4 gaming build and stick an older GPU in there for my 12yo cousin to Fortnite with.
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Glen
I know it's an old game but since you're redoing the benches again, Fallout 4?
A lot of us are still playing it and it still has performance issues, some have been improved, some have gotten worse as hardware has changed. There's also an update coming this year so having an old baseline might be a good idea.
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I know it's an old game but since you're redoing the benches again, Fallout 4?
A lot of us are still playing it and it still has performance issues, some have been improved, some have gotten worse as hardware has changed. There's also an update coming this year so having an old baseline might be a good idea.
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xX
What I would be interested in is the gaming performance while many programs are running in the background. For example I am playing Cyberpunkt 2077 with steam, discord, razor tools and streaming in the background. I would love to know how much impact on the FPS there would be and whether there are huge stutters.
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What I would be interested in is the gaming performance while many programs are running in the background. For example I am playing Cyberpunkt 2077 with steam, discord, razor tools and streaming in the background. I would love to know how much impact on the FPS there would be and whether there are huge stutters.
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Gustavo
I just can't help but to be happy about this AMD's CPUs unexpected launchings, even in their limited format. They bring so much value to the market, although not everyone will be able to get one. It's like the 1600 AF (although way more limited). Hopefully we can see more of those in the future.
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I just can't help but to be happy about this AMD's CPUs unexpected launchings, even in their limited format. They bring so much value to the market, although not everyone will be able to get one. It's like the 1600 AF (although way more limited). Hopefully we can see more of those in the future.
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Jakob
I wish you would make all scores be score per time unit (like e.g. FPS), so it becomes Renders Per Hour , Rounds Per Minute etc, instead of having some graphs come with a footnote of Lower is better , which kind of defeats the purpose of having having uniform graphs, when some are inverted.
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I wish you would make all scores be score per time unit (like e.g. FPS), so it becomes Renders Per Hour , Rounds Per Minute etc, instead of having some graphs come with a footnote of Lower is better , which kind of defeats the purpose of having having uniform graphs, when some are inverted.
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KeonXD
AMD should launch this online exclusive from themselves to customer (first party seller to customers around the world). Making it Micro Centre exclusive will bring in a lot of mixed opinions from people outside the US and future comparisons with this CPU won't really be fair comparison.
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AMD should launch this online exclusive from themselves to customer (first party seller to customers around the world). Making it Micro Centre exclusive will bring in a lot of mixed opinions from people outside the US and future comparisons with this CPU won't really be fair comparison.
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Greg
I get why it's tested with a 4090 so there isn't a bottleneck, but I wish we could see some tests with a GPU people actually have for a real world comparison. I'm not going to see a 30% increase in FPS going from a 3600 to a 5600x3D in 1440p with an 10xx or 20xx series GPU
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I get why it's tested with a 4090 so there isn't a bottleneck, but I wish we could see some tests with a GPU people actually have for a real world comparison. I'm not going to see a 30% increase in FPS going from a 3600 to a 5600x3D in 1440p with an 10xx or 20xx series GPU
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