Chinese Pre-Built PC Review: ZhaoXin CPU + Knock-Off Windows OS, ft. NeoKylin
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Dennis
Hmm, I first have to compliment you on a very thorough and well put together review of this CPU and system. However, it was all basically for nothing. You start by stating pretty much all we need to know - that it's the equivalent of a ten year old computer for office drones. And drone computers are the cows of the computing world - they're not meant to run the Kentucky Derby or do dressage; they're meant to just sit there on a desk while the aforementioned office drones waste their lives plugging in data. I must say it was interesting to hear about the Chinese government's attempts to catch up with the big boys of CPU design, but you could have saved yourself a whole lot of time and effort by ending it there. Except. you did do a great piece on China's OS game, which I'll view later. If only you'd cut out the middle bit it would be a great video.
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Hmm, I first have to compliment you on a very thorough and well put together review of this CPU and system. However, it was all basically for nothing. You start by stating pretty much all we need to know - that it's the equivalent of a ten year old computer for office drones. And drone computers are the cows of the computing world - they're not meant to run the Kentucky Derby or do dressage; they're meant to just sit there on a desk while the aforementioned office drones waste their lives plugging in data. I must say it was interesting to hear about the Chinese government's attempts to catch up with the big boys of CPU design, but you could have saved yourself a whole lot of time and effort by ending it there. Except. you did do a great piece on China's OS game, which I'll view later. If only you'd cut out the middle bit it would be a great video.
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Mike
Glenn Henry who I worked for legitimately running a processor design school in Austin that has nothing to show EVER on Glenn's refusal to compete with Intel fearing retaliation against himself and staff told me himself. Wen Chi Cen no better sending Evon in to run things knew nothing and now the powers that be extend an olive branch that is nothing. It's called world economic leveling that is playing nice but a laughing matter. The slide showing Cyrix IP is a nicety because none of it exists in Centaur designs was all sabotaged by Intel mole Cyrix infiltrators and Glenn would use none of it on too timely to assess, decompose and recompose. Stan S was going to hire me to have another chance at Cyrix then informed me nothing was left to save. Mike Bruzzone, Camp Marketing,
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Glenn Henry who I worked for legitimately running a processor design school in Austin that has nothing to show EVER on Glenn's refusal to compete with Intel fearing retaliation against himself and staff told me himself. Wen Chi Cen no better sending Evon in to run things knew nothing and now the powers that be extend an olive branch that is nothing. It's called world economic leveling that is playing nice but a laughing matter. The slide showing Cyrix IP is a nicety because none of it exists in Centaur designs was all sabotaged by Intel mole Cyrix infiltrators and Glenn would use none of it on too timely to assess, decompose and recompose. Stan S was going to hire me to have another chance at Cyrix then informed me nothing was left to save. Mike Bruzzone, Camp Marketing,
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Electricnick
Serious question: If Huawei already works with the Chinese government anyway, why don't they make the processors/computers for government work with their own chips which are much, MUCH, better than the x86 crap ZhaoXin has churned out? Sure, it's ARM, but there are plenty of Linux distros that support ARM processors, including my personal favorite, Deepin OS, which is also made by a Chinese developer team. Some Huawei laptops even ship with Deepin OS, although they ship with the x86 installation, not an ARM processor and ARM distro. Wouldn't it make sense for China to pour all their tech funding into one company that has already proven adept at basically everything they need, rather than basically making a government backed kickstarter?
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Serious question: If Huawei already works with the Chinese government anyway, why don't they make the processors/computers for government work with their own chips which are much, MUCH, better than the x86 crap ZhaoXin has churned out? Sure, it's ARM, but there are plenty of Linux distros that support ARM processors, including my personal favorite, Deepin OS, which is also made by a Chinese developer team. Some Huawei laptops even ship with Deepin OS, although they ship with the x86 installation, not an ARM processor and ARM distro. Wouldn't it make sense for China to pour all their tech funding into one company that has already proven adept at basically everything they need, rather than basically making a government backed kickstarter?
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Paradox
you have to be careful when reviewing these government specific products from a pricing perspective. the government needs to get a discount on their purchases. the easiest way to get this discount is markup your PC an extra 100% and tell them they are getting a 50% volume discount. even here in north america, if you work for a big company, you will receive emails from Lenovo or Dell to sell you PC's at 30% to 50% discount from the prices you see on the official website. its called employee pricing discount. so list prices are really meaningless as it was never intended for retail buyers.
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you have to be careful when reviewing these government specific products from a pricing perspective. the government needs to get a discount on their purchases. the easiest way to get this discount is markup your PC an extra 100% and tell them they are getting a 50% volume discount. even here in north america, if you work for a big company, you will receive emails from Lenovo or Dell to sell you PC's at 30% to 50% discount from the prices you see on the official website. its called employee pricing discount. so list prices are really meaningless as it was never intended for retail buyers.
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Steven
OS, is not hard to develop, but hard to build the ecosystem, which we mostly prefer the Wintel and the Mac. That is why OS monopoly is hard to break. These days, We talked about virus that infected human all day long, but it is well known that virus in software is jeopardizing the computer operation, stealing information, asking for ransom in the payment form of Bitcoin. That is why there is Great Fire Wall in China, and we have to use VPN to access YT.
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OS, is not hard to develop, but hard to build the ecosystem, which we mostly prefer the Wintel and the Mac. That is why OS monopoly is hard to break. These days, We talked about virus that infected human all day long, but it is well known that virus in software is jeopardizing the computer operation, stealing information, asking for ransom in the payment form of Bitcoin. That is why there is Great Fire Wall in China, and we have to use VPN to access YT.
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Banisher
I think I know why the system is so expensive, the long hard labour of the operating system itself, this operating system could have taken a long time for a Chinese person to craft, or code in this case, anyway, this is just a wild goose chase guess, I am not sure if this information is true, so, correct me if I am wrong about some things.
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I think I know why the system is so expensive, the long hard labour of the operating system itself, this operating system could have taken a long time for a Chinese person to craft, or code in this case, anyway, this is just a wild goose chase guess, I am not sure if this information is true, so, correct me if I am wrong about some things.
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Phu
For about 50 you can buy a transformer for 220 from a 110 outlet. I used one in Afghanistan and in the UK. Wow. they put their collective forces together and built a KLAMATH quality CPU. That's an IBM/Lenovo monitor. I had one like that in my old office. Ni Hao Kai Lin. cool, does it come with a politically slanted bilingual cartoon?
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For about 50 you can buy a transformer for 220 from a 110 outlet. I used one in Afghanistan and in the UK. Wow. they put their collective forces together and built a KLAMATH quality CPU. That's an IBM/Lenovo monitor. I had one like that in my old office. Ni Hao Kai Lin. cool, does it come with a politically slanted bilingual cartoon?
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hasan
I think VIA is the only other company with an x86 license. Also, Chinese are not new to cpu manufacturing, with companies like mediatek that produce arm based cpus. Let's hope those Chinese cpus are competitive and introduce some competition to AMD and Intel. Consumers always benefit when competition is high.
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I think VIA is the only other company with an x86 license. Also, Chinese are not new to cpu manufacturing, with companies like mediatek that produce arm based cpus. Let's hope those Chinese cpus are competitive and introduce some competition to AMD and Intel. Consumers always benefit when competition is high.
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sunny
The thing is, with crushing competition they need so much money just to get a little bit of progress such as this product, it's overpriced but it still wouldn't cover all their costs. I really hope there would be more players in the field one day. Always better for consumers and technological advancements
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The thing is, with crushing competition they need so much money just to get a little bit of progress such as this product, it's overpriced but it still wouldn't cover all their costs. I really hope there would be more players in the field one day. Always better for consumers and technological advancements
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Charles
2: 03 clearly you should combine the terrible internals of left pc with the atrocious externals of right pc to make ultimate CCPower! in china C is used for X in terms of performance so a ccppc or chinese communist party power computer must have the ultimate performance for propaganda, china#1!
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2: 03 clearly you should combine the terrible internals of left pc with the atrocious externals of right pc to make ultimate CCPower! in china C is used for X in terms of performance so a ccppc or chinese communist party power computer must have the ultimate performance for propaganda, china#1!
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