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ASUS ROG Ally Deep-Dive Review: Thermals, Gaming, Power, SD Card, & More vs. Steam Deck

ASUS ROG Ally Deep-Dive Review: Thermals, Gaming, Power, SD Card, & More vs. Steam Deck

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Rating: 4.5; Vote: 2
Our review of the ASUS ROG Ally (with Z1 Extreme) handheld gaming PC tests it primarily against the Steam Deck, including gaming performance, frametimes, thermals, acoustics, battery life and charging, noise samples, and impressions of hardware and software. This is a showcase review for us - it's detailed, but a fun excuse for our team to throw everything at a device for an in-depth review that teaches us (and hopefully the audience) about some of the testing processes at the same time. We also tried to look at the MicroSD card 'melting' issues with the ROG Ally, only to find that our MicroSD card reader on our Ally was dead within 2 hours of gaming and prior to ever being used for a card. Review The ASUS ROG (Republic of Gamers) Ally is a gaming laptop that offers a range of features tailored for gamers. Typically features a sleek and aggressive design that's characteristic of the ROG brand. It often incorporates sharp lines, RGB lighting, and premium materials to give it a gaming-centric aesthetic. The build quality is usually sturdy, ensuring durability for gaming on the go. Screen Size: The laptop often comes with various display size options, with popular choices being 15.6 inches and 17.3 inches. The choice of screen size depends on personal preference for portability or a larger viewing experience. Resolution: ASUS ROG laptops typically offer Full HD (1920 x 1080 pixels) or higher resolutions for crisp visuals. Refresh Rate: Gaming laptops in the ROG lineup frequently feature high refresh rate displays, often up to 300Hz or more. This provides smoother gameplay and reduces motion blur. Adaptive Sync: Many models incorporate NVIDIA G-SYNC or AMD FreeSync technology for tear-free gaming by synchronizing the display's refresh rate with the GPU's frame rate. Processor: ASUS ROG laptops are powered by high-performance Intel Core or AMD Ryzen processors, depending on the model. These CPUs offer strong multi-core performance for gaming and content creation. Graphics: ROG laptops come with dedicated gaming-grade NVIDIA GeForce or AMD Radeon graphics cards, providing excellent gaming performance and support for ray tracing technologies. RAM: These laptops typically offer a minimum of 16GB of DDR4 RAM, with some models supporting up to 32GB or even 64GB for multitasking and gaming performance. Storage: ASUS ROG Ally laptops often feature a combination of SSDs (Solid State Drives) for fast load times and HDDs (Hard Disk Drives) for ample storage space. ASUS pays special attention to cooling in their gaming laptops. ROG laptops usually come with advanced cooling solutions like multiple fans, heat pipes, and software-controlled fan profiles to keep temperatures in check during intense gaming sessions. ROG laptops often feature customizable RGB lighting zones on the keyboard and chassis. ASUS provides software that allows users to create their own lighting profiles and synchronize them with other ROG peripherals for a unified lighting setup. ASUS ROG laptops frequently have high-quality audio systems, often with support for Dolby Atmos or similar technologies. This enhances the gaming and multimedia experience, delivering immersive sound. Expect robust connectivity options, including multiple USB ports (Type-A and Type-C), HDMI, Ethernet, and Wi-Fi 6 for fast and stable online gaming. Some models may also feature Thunderbolt ports for high-speed data transfer and external GPU support. ASUS often bundles their ROG laptops with gaming-centric software utilities. These tools allow users to customize performance settings, monitor system stats, and optimize their gaming experience. ROG laptops may incorporate features like customizable macro keys, dedicated gaming modes, and specialized gaming keyboards to cater to the gaming audience. The price of the ASUS ROG Ally varies depending on the model's specifications and features. Generally, they fall into the mid to high-end gaming laptop range, with more advanced configurations commanding higher prices. Keep in mind that specific features and specifications can vary between different models and versions of the ASUS ROG Ally, so it's important to check the detailed specifications and reviews for the specific laptop you are interested in to ensure it meets your gaming needs.
Date: 2023-09-10

Comments and reviews: 20


I'm in my 30s and I still have problems with sounds from 16khz to 24khz or so (where my hearing finally rolls off noticeably). I had to sell a cheap ASRock 5700xt because it had an unbearable 18khz coil whine when under load just gaming, and it was loud enough to hear through headphones and on my mic, so anybody I was on voice chat with suffered as well, on top of my existing noise issues in my room at the time since I'd just gotten an air conditioner due to the changing climate necessitating it for my health. I ended up getting a 2080ti upgrade just 6 months after getting the 5700xt, using my stimulus check to get something that would be faster and could run RTX Voice Beta. No more coil whine AND everyone else no longer has to suffer listening to my room when I talk, and my PC is also much quieter for not having to run the fans full tilt at idle due to my room being 90-120f if I don't cool it actively in the summer. I've worked as an audio engineer trying to start a small sound and lighting rentals company with some close friends/business partners, and it's been both a boon and a curse being able to hear that high, since even our blind sound tech, who is a literal god when it comes to system tuning due to his disability also giving him audio superpowers, he can only hear up to 16.7khz before it cuts off entirely due to ear infection damage he suffered in his 20s. Once we get past 16khz I have to do all the EQ work up to 20-khz since he can't hear it at all, and might leave it up way too hot to be comfortable for those who can still hear it. It's definitely not a uniform thing to lose your high frequency hearing. Honestly I don't know how I haven't lost it yet, it's very clearly suffered some damage in the upper end where I have several discrete frequencies I can't hear clearly at due to tinnitus I've had as long as I can remember (also do to ear infections, but as a baby 0-2yo), and I've been to hundreds of raves over the years, many of which were objectively way too loud, but for all the trauma my ears have suffered, it's never dampened my hearing in the ultra high end. I hope it never does either, there is a lot of detail that gets lost in the natural harmonic resonance of most air and string instruments when you can't hear the highest frequencies.
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Nice deep dive Steve. I have both, got Steam Deck early and Ally. Deck was a nice device to go for my steam library - the sleep/resume perfect, the UI superb, but the fan was a big mess and the 15w performance just not enough. But since I'm lost in starfield for more than 30h, having game pass ultimate, the Ally replaced not only the Deck, but my gaming laptop and desktop. Hell of a beast, display, performance,... starfield at mid settings. Using here steam link to an old ThinkPad (which has Linux) works very well too if I want a bigger screen...yep even with streaming desktop and Xbox app games. So rethinking my whole setup, because Ally and the next generation of AMD apus points in the right direction from my point of view. Energy consumption, performance, handheld form factor and couch portability. I can play around 1h without charging. Maybe it's only me that I don't care. Ah and sdard. Not using it, because I need the disk speed in a game like starfield or last of us. I understand the limitations of the design of the Ally and Deck. So great review Steve, thank you to push the industry. Guessing we are all early adopters with Ally and Deck. And it will be a great time for couch gamers in future.
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The ROG handheld is really impressive, for sure. But I don't get the focus of many people who want a 1080p/over60hz display on the thing. It makes, zero, sense. I saw this as far back as the Switch's launch, people complaining that the display wasn't high enough when the battery life is already rough on Switch (3-6 hours is pretty low) then mobile PCs like this (1.5-6 hours), tragically so and getting games to run right can be a bit fiddly. But let's jack the resolution up and the framerate??
The screen is so small I just don't see the point in jacking the res up when the only tangible result is a far worse battery life and performance. Why do people have such a focus on res when it's so hard to see on a display like this? Most people recommend 40hz on the deck to save battery life but, sure- everyone belly ache that 60hz is too low. Let's see if we can get that battery life sub 40min
Resolution is a bragging right- AFTER how good your device performs, and with a portable devices the gaming performance AND the portable nature/battery life come before the resolution.

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This is personal preference, but the fact that the steamdeck runs a handheld first operating system, vs the ally which really needs in my opinion at least one trackpad to navigate windows. Using the joystick as a mouse frustrates me greatly.
I am also biased because I'm a Linux nerd and run it on my desktop as well, but personally I feel steamos is a better handheld experience, and the desktop mode is fantastic for keyboard/mouse use, it being kde helps a ton with this. I do use my steamdeck as a laptop replacement, and even built a mobile cyber deck dock for it. Which works fantastically as a laptop reply but with a better keyboard.
I may consider the ally for pure horse power, but I've heard getting everything working on it in Linux is a bit of a pain, and I absolutely would run Linux instead of windows.
Overall great review, love how in depth you guys go over there, keep up the great work!!!

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The spectrum plot at 16:38 should have been truncated at 100Hz imo. There's almost no way a device this small would (without considerable effort) create meaningful levels at frequencies lower than that. Your noise floor below 100Hz seems to be too high to warrant a usable SNR for signals this quiet anyway.
To a layman the graph might look like there's a lot of level still present at low frequencies due to the logarithmic scales and increasing noise floor towards lower frequencies. Just my nerdy 2 cts.
I really appreciate the acoustic testing. Not just because I love nerding out about audio, but because I genuinely think it is useful to consumers and has been underappreciated to do scientifically in the tech community.
Edit: This also applies to the spectrograms at 11:26 and onwards but it's less severe there I feel like.

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the power delivery of the ally may cause that performance inconsistency, but I'd bet windows process management is at least an equally significant part of that problem. could be wrong, but I think the operating system and its configuration is a meaningful performance variable for handhelds like this
linux has a big advantage in my experience when it comes to process management giving proper uninterrupted priority to the focused application, even with a bunch of background processes running, which the steam deck also doesn't have. on top of that, somehow, despite so many games on linux having to run through proton, I also find them more stable on average than I ever did on windows, and general performance (in games and otherwise) is more consistently in line with what I expect from my hardware

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The steam deck's 0.1% fps and frame times are seriously impressive, and I'm so glad valve seem to be focusing their efforts on what really counts for the playing experience. As far as I'm aware, games being translated by dxvk pre-compile shaders that would be compiled during gameplay in dx, so assuming you tested on first run, how much of the non-stuttering on the steam deck compared to the ally was due to the shaders already having been compiled ahead of time?
With regards to gamescope, I think the reason valve are building that out so much to not allow tearing by default could also be because gamescope will be what runs on their (hopefully) upcoming standalone/hybrid VR headset, and in that scenario it would be much more jarring than in normal gameplay.

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GN once again setting the standard for what the highest quality of reviews looks like. That was seriously impressive.
The ally is certainly a very impressive device, but for me it mostly highlights how amazing the price/performance of the steamdeck is. As someone who doesn't really focus on AAA graphics performance in his mobile gaming there isn't much that can compete with the deck for me. The only thing I can think of would be the gpd win max 2 because I can think of a lot of use cases for that form factor, but that one is just monstrously expensive.
When it comes to the deck I just wish proton was a little better at handling rpgmaker xp titles, quite a few of those are very inconsistent while also drawing less than one watt (tdp, not measured)

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so your review device was faulty. I m
not sure if I can take a review seriously if you re not going bother getting another unit to review. Didn t you guys just whine about Linus Tech Tips being shady with their reviews?
Listen, I know you don t like Asus and that bias shows. So coming into this review I felt like you may not take it seriously. That you did mostly take it seriously was great. I just feel let down that you wouldn t go the extra mile for it.
There s a lot of us that have Rog allys that have been and are enjoying them despite what the cons may be. At the end of the day it doesn t matter that much. There s fine reviews that have already been done months ago. So either way it feels this is too little too late for many of us.

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I bought Ally because I just need a portable Windows machine that I can bring on-the-go, and sometimes play game with it. In that sense, Ally definitely succeeds. Despite all the talk about how Steam Deck is so great . I just don t trust Linux to be able to handle non-Steam game that is built for Windows. I can t even trust Steam Deck fully on Steam games anyway.
Beside, if SteamOS is so great, nothing should prevent me from using SteamOS on Ally in the future
Also as a note, ASUS have advantages in that its actually launching the damn thing everywhere, with official warranty support. The 512GB Steam Deck is actually more expensive here in Singapore for example, and I saw ROG Ally as low as 899 SGD for Z1 Extreme version (basically 899 CAD).

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Having owned the Ally since day one of launch, I can confirm that the performance is all over the place. Purely as a handheld, not plugged in, it's simply not worth the money. Okay, I'll be blunt. It's a rip-off. I have only used it once because the unstable frame times offer a less than ideal gaming experience. It's been rotting inside my case. It's a device that (I already knew and called it) is not very well optimized, and I don't see it ever being as optimized as the Deck. Even its only real selling point', the 120 Hz freesync display, is largely useless, unless you like gaming for an hour. If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't. I'd go straight for the Steam Deck. POS Ally. I should have followed my gut feelings/intuition. F-U Asus.
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Great review. Steam deck on battery power is very impressive. Seems like you have to assess how you will use the device. If you are ok being tethered to an outlet, Rog Ally gives better performance and has the better screen and all the advantages (and disadvantages) of running Windows 11. The steam deck on the other hand seems like a better handheld device when not plugged in.
For me, I prefer better performance and being plugged in. With that in mind, I'm switching to another Asus product, the Z13 gaming tablet. It goes up to a 4070 gpu and I9 13900H. I'll need to pair it with a controller but will get even better performance. I figure if you have to stay plugged in to get the performance you want, then why not lean into it.

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4:28 I find it strange how every generation of ATI/AMD and all generations of Nvidia (excepting 5 total variants of 10-series cards) have had a laptop and desktop version with differing specs.
Despite this fact, reviewers such as GN and HUB are ignorant to this (?) and cry and whine calling the 3080/4090 laptop version not a real 3080/4090 .
It's the laptop version.
That's how it's worked since before GN was a concept. 5 total products which shared specs between laptop and desktop out of just over 500 total cards between ATI/AMD and Nvidia don't make that the new standard.
It really comes of as you not understanding the basics of what you're talking about and patronizing your viewer.

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Basically, if you're not going to play on battery, which defeats the whole purpose of a buying a handheld in the first place, get the Ally, although it doesn't even achieve the native 120Hz refresh rate 720p and has terrible 1% lows compared to the Steam Deck as shown in this review, so you don't get much in return with the Asus Ally, this convinced me how balanced the Steam Deck actually is, though you have to be honest with yourself on what to expect from these handhelds, especially coming from a PC, If you are OK with 30 fps, which is the standard on current gen handhelds, then you'll get silent and cool gaming on the Steam Deck, otherwise, skip this generation of handhelds all together.
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Was really looking forward to this, in particular to see if the SD reader fail cause could be determined. Very unfortunate it seems your reader failed quicker than you could examine it, you were really the last hope of getting Asus to address this more, as failures are still happening even with latest firmware and etc. and more telling, even exchanges and repairs don't seem to be actually fixing this issue at all from reports from people that have gone through the RMA process.
Hope you will reconsider dedicating more time/resources investigating this, its as important as the 12 pin power cable and AMD CPU frying issue for me, but up to you of course.

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The SD Card issues are still absolutely present. I just bought a new Rog Ally from Best Buy a few weeks ago, and immediately updated it to the newest drivers and everything, and my MicroSD reader still quit working and damaged the SD Card after about two weeks of use! It won't read any cards anymore, just causes the system to freeze up. And yes I've factory reset already to make sure it wasn't a weird software issue. Personally, I don't think the SD reader issue is a thermal issue, as in my own testing the hottest the SD slot got was 60C, which is lower than the SD maximum temperature standard. I think it's a voltage issue with the controller chip.
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Great review. The ROG Ally subreddit and forums are full of people with the SDcard reader issue. People either experience the reader not working from day one or, failing eventually, days/weeks/months after ownership. I'm hoping you eventually do a follow up video to further dive into this or perhaps send your unit in for RMA/exchange? I'll be curious to see if Asus is ever able to address the issue via software or if they issue a silent hardware update at some point; Or perhaps the issue will never be solved until what I'm assuming will be an Ally 2024 model if/when it's released next year.
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I m disappointed you guys released a video with a bios that is over a month old (319) which severely impacts performance; instead of using the latest bios and firmware at the time of the release of the video. 319 had me getting only an average of 45fps on Destiny 2. The latest bios and drivers are getting me 55-65fps. It feels like you guys are trying to skew the results.
You guys kinda lose the high ground on the whole LTT thing pulling this move, imo.
I don t see the journalistic integrity in this.
Consider me bummed out on GN now

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At that screen size I'd never even consider playing at 1080p, heck 720p is already overkill at that pixel density.
It's also the reason I went back from a 4K60 48 TV to a 1080p120 24 monitor for my main display after exhaustively testing different resolutions and dpi during the lockdowns (I had way too much free time back then.) Doing that not only allowed me to game at higher framerates with the same gpu but also got rid of some neck pain I was suffering from moving my head too much to see the entire screen.

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been using the Ally for over a month now and i'm loving it. I was at the time thinking of getting the Steam Deck but the compatibility via Proton kind of worried me.
I did notice the Ally seems to work better in manual mode over turbo. I found the fan curve wasn't able to cope with the heat. I also keep the SPPT at 35w and FPPT at 40w. This way the Ally isn't spiking in heat and so far its been a sweet spot. Been running Armored Core 6 and haven't seen the heat go over 85c

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