HW News - Ubisoft Hates Ownership, MSI Claw Huge Patch, EK Updates, & Z790 Issues
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Date: 2024-05-04
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Limburg92
You will own nothing and be happy, sounds like ubisoft is going along with WEF politics
I say boycot Ubisoft, we pay more than enough for incomplete games what needs like 5 extra payed DLC's to make it an complete game and now we don't even own them anymore
Like what do we pay for! To borrow the game, nahh man F that..
And what about the collectors around the gaming world! Ohh wait you allready fcked that one up by destroying storyline games and making everything online so you can make our game pay to win and cash in..
Man sometimes I ask myself why I put 4000 dollar in an gaming pc if there aren't any good games anymore..
I need some more ac games or an new hogwarts, at least they still know how to make stories..
My favo game is also destroyed by bringing out the abomination that's called fallout 76.
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You will own nothing and be happy, sounds like ubisoft is going along with WEF politics
I say boycot Ubisoft, we pay more than enough for incomplete games what needs like 5 extra payed DLC's to make it an complete game and now we don't even own them anymore
Like what do we pay for! To borrow the game, nahh man F that..
And what about the collectors around the gaming world! Ohh wait you allready fcked that one up by destroying storyline games and making everything online so you can make our game pay to win and cash in..
Man sometimes I ask myself why I put 4000 dollar in an gaming pc if there aren't any good games anymore..
I need some more ac games or an new hogwarts, at least they still know how to make stories..
My favo game is also destroyed by bringing out the abomination that's called fallout 76.
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chunkuswumpus3515
On The Crew situation the devs who made the game before partnering with ubi were working on an offline mode and it was so close some modders found an offline start option with button assignment in the menues with little digging. Ubi stopped the devs from making it available offline and then killed the game and revoked purchaser's rights to even be able to play the game. I hope we can take them to court even though i know we will lose but just to get it heard. If the general media doesn't care about a game you can't access even with a physical copy then nothing will change but if it goes to court and typical news media picks it up then we might make some change. Oh yeah and Ubi gave a date the game would be taken permanently offline and then did so about a week earlier than quoted
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On The Crew situation the devs who made the game before partnering with ubi were working on an offline mode and it was so close some modders found an offline start option with button assignment in the menues with little digging. Ubi stopped the devs from making it available offline and then killed the game and revoked purchaser's rights to even be able to play the game. I hope we can take them to court even though i know we will lose but just to get it heard. If the general media doesn't care about a game you can't access even with a physical copy then nothing will change but if it goes to court and typical news media picks it up then we might make some change. Oh yeah and Ubi gave a date the game would be taken permanently offline and then did so about a week earlier than quoted
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kxmode
22:15 Imagine if a car maker decided to remotely destroy a 2014 model of their vehicle because they no longer wanted to support its online-only features. I use that as a hyperbolic hypothetical example since no such thing exists, but the point is that this would be unacceptable in any other industry. However, in the video game industry, companies can act with impunity, and there are zero consumer protection laws to prevent them from doing this. The FCC needs to step in and stop these companies from abusing consumers. Suppose a company sells an online-only product that does not have a subscription model. In that case, they should be required to keep servers perpetually online or take action to either refund customers or update the game to run offline; period, end of story.
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22:15 Imagine if a car maker decided to remotely destroy a 2014 model of their vehicle because they no longer wanted to support its online-only features. I use that as a hyperbolic hypothetical example since no such thing exists, but the point is that this would be unacceptable in any other industry. However, in the video game industry, companies can act with impunity, and there are zero consumer protection laws to prevent them from doing this. The FCC needs to step in and stop these companies from abusing consumers. Suppose a company sells an online-only product that does not have a subscription model. In that case, they should be required to keep servers perpetually online or take action to either refund customers or update the game to run offline; period, end of story.
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todayonthebench
23:55 sounds like an explanation of pay to win. So obviously nothing new, so why worry.
But honestly, game streaming is one thing, but if one pays for a copy of the game, one shall have access to said copy for ever. Even if a lot of older game titles these days more or less requires one to set up a dedicated retro gaming rig just to play it, so there is that.... And some DRM systems don't really work these days either, due to their online nature, so there is that as well...
But honestly speaking, ownership of a product one has bought is something that has been trickling out of the hands of consumers for a long time. And it is a major problem.
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23:55 sounds like an explanation of pay to win. So obviously nothing new, so why worry.
But honestly, game streaming is one thing, but if one pays for a copy of the game, one shall have access to said copy for ever. Even if a lot of older game titles these days more or less requires one to set up a dedicated retro gaming rig just to play it, so there is that.... And some DRM systems don't really work these days either, due to their online nature, so there is that as well...
But honestly speaking, ownership of a product one has bought is something that has been trickling out of the hands of consumers for a long time. And it is a major problem.
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stevenszmek7007
So Ubisoft still tries to maintain it's own store.... great job ! It's just as worse as buying a game on Steam like Helldivers 2 and then Sony just takes it away if you don't give them your ENTIRE Steam account telemetry. And above all things Sony says it's for the customers safety - a company the gets hacked on a weekly base ! Any company that (with obviously malitious intent ) tries to force people into those schemes with a product the customer paid for weeks ago can count on me immediately uninstalling anything from them. ... there is a reason why i only run Steam - and i will not ever again get even more spy and malware platforms on my system.
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So Ubisoft still tries to maintain it's own store.... great job ! It's just as worse as buying a game on Steam like Helldivers 2 and then Sony just takes it away if you don't give them your ENTIRE Steam account telemetry. And above all things Sony says it's for the customers safety - a company the gets hacked on a weekly base ! Any company that (with obviously malitious intent ) tries to force people into those schemes with a product the customer paid for weeks ago can count on me immediately uninstalling anything from them. ... there is a reason why i only run Steam - and i will not ever again get even more spy and malware platforms on my system.
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pandanutiypanda
Zuck saying that quest is modable is really wierd considering you need to jump trough a bunch of hoops, make a dev account and then use a third party PC tool just to install an apk, while other headsets like ones from Pico allow you to do it in couple of clicks fully in the headset. Quest 3 is prob the best overall one right now on the market, but its the most locked down headset i have ever used (used win mixed reality/pico 3/quest 3) and at one point it was a brick because meta servers went down, like actually a total paperweight because it couldn't call home to Zuck to ask for permission to work.
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Zuck saying that quest is modable is really wierd considering you need to jump trough a bunch of hoops, make a dev account and then use a third party PC tool just to install an apk, while other headsets like ones from Pico allow you to do it in couple of clicks fully in the headset. Quest 3 is prob the best overall one right now on the market, but its the most locked down headset i have ever used (used win mixed reality/pico 3/quest 3) and at one point it was a brick because meta servers went down, like actually a total paperweight because it couldn't call home to Zuck to ask for permission to work.
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privacyvalued4134
The only Ubisoft games I'm still buying are Assassin's Creed games but only because I want to see how the story turns out. We got it was aliens at some point and I'm hoping they go back to that along with better game mechanics. Like stealth assassinations...because it's in the name. But Ubisoft's aggressive policies and terrible game design decisions have made me avoid them like the plague for everything else. They poke a lot of fun at EA in the Assassin's Creed universe (i.e. Abstergo), but EA's awfulness doesn't hold a candle to Ubisoft's. I prefer good indie titles these days anyway.
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The only Ubisoft games I'm still buying are Assassin's Creed games but only because I want to see how the story turns out. We got it was aliens at some point and I'm hoping they go back to that along with better game mechanics. Like stealth assassinations...because it's in the name. But Ubisoft's aggressive policies and terrible game design decisions have made me avoid them like the plague for everything else. They poke a lot of fun at EA in the Assassin's Creed universe (i.e. Abstergo), but EA's awfulness doesn't hold a candle to Ubisoft's. I prefer good indie titles these days anyway.
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Horus9339
I've been doing it wrong all this time. Thank you Steve for showing me the error of my ways, all I needed to do is buy the game and never play it and that empty feeling is replaced by an empty bank account instead. Genius, why did I not think of that before. To be honest Ubisoft/EA are by far and away the worst online store and software library systems out there, even though I did not want steam forced on me (Race07) I have come around to the idea that it really has done a good job, I hope they are as good to developers.
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I've been doing it wrong all this time. Thank you Steve for showing me the error of my ways, all I needed to do is buy the game and never play it and that empty feeling is replaced by an empty bank account instead. Genius, why did I not think of that before. To be honest Ubisoft/EA are by far and away the worst online store and software library systems out there, even though I did not want steam forced on me (Race07) I have come around to the idea that it really has done a good job, I hope they are as good to developers.
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C76Caravan
Bought a digital Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946 edition years ago via the old Ubisoft online store... A few years later tried to reinstall it, but wouldn't let me any longer because they switched to a new store and Said this license key is no longer valid. That was the point i said F-You (which as Steve mentioned is reverse scribed as U standing for Ubisoft)... Haven't bought any game from them (despite really wanting to play Assassin's Creed) and in general only buy from GoG since then (starting with the aforementioned Il-2).
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Bought a digital Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946 edition years ago via the old Ubisoft online store... A few years later tried to reinstall it, but wouldn't let me any longer because they switched to a new store and Said this license key is no longer valid. That was the point i said F-You (which as Steve mentioned is reverse scribed as U standing for Ubisoft)... Haven't bought any game from them (despite really wanting to play Assassin's Creed) and in general only buy from GoG since then (starting with the aforementioned Il-2).
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neoqueto
You can't work on anything 20 hours a day man, please don't tax yourself this much ever again, it's bad for physical health, bad for mental health, the burnout... I am minding my own business, I know what long hours can do to a person first hand and I don't want that to happen to my favorite creator and journalist. The piece on EK ended up going hard, but please go a little bit easier on yourself Steve. Thank you for what you do, GN brings nothing but positive change to the community and industry.
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You can't work on anything 20 hours a day man, please don't tax yourself this much ever again, it's bad for physical health, bad for mental health, the burnout... I am minding my own business, I know what long hours can do to a person first hand and I don't want that to happen to my favorite creator and journalist. The piece on EK ended up going hard, but please go a little bit easier on yourself Steve. Thank you for what you do, GN brings nothing but positive change to the community and industry.
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josephschultz
and with all the Censorship that Sony is pushing why are people buying this, just my opinion of course I bought a X-Box but couldn't get used to the Controller so friend of mine got a great deal. I'll be sticking with PC so much more control with a mouse and keyboard of course subject to my own opinion I'll never tell anyone this system is better then X brand ETC you buy play what you like and are most comfortable with. Stay Safe everyone it's a real World nowadays
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and with all the Censorship that Sony is pushing why are people buying this, just my opinion of course I bought a X-Box but couldn't get used to the Controller so friend of mine got a great deal. I'll be sticking with PC so much more control with a mouse and keyboard of course subject to my own opinion I'll never tell anyone this system is better then X brand ETC you buy play what you like and are most comfortable with. Stay Safe everyone it's a real World nowadays
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gamersnexus
If game companies resort to digital only versions and can remove them at any notice .. then I believe the following should occur:
- a minimum 7yr provision time given to supporting the title once it’s been purchased and activated online so you have time to play / replay the game a few times at least;
- $20-$30 flat fee on all new games is regulated and once they’re 2 years old the price is reduced by at least 30% as its no longer a new release!
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If game companies resort to digital only versions and can remove them at any notice .. then I believe the following should occur:
- a minimum 7yr provision time given to supporting the title once it’s been purchased and activated online so you have time to play / replay the game a few times at least;
- $20-$30 flat fee on all new games is regulated and once they’re 2 years old the price is reduced by at least 30% as its no longer a new release!
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OldManBadly
Sad reality is that especially in gaming software, ownership of a game that plays online may not be possible or preferable. Long term I suspect we are looking at games that are free to download but that you have to pay for seasons / monthly / yearly to be able to play them online. So many games (think Fortnite and on up) have effectively no solo mode to play. Without constant income, sooner or later those games will die as they tap out the cash.
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Sad reality is that especially in gaming software, ownership of a game that plays online may not be possible or preferable. Long term I suspect we are looking at games that are free to download but that you have to pay for seasons / monthly / yearly to be able to play them online. So many games (think Fortnite and on up) have effectively no solo mode to play. Without constant income, sooner or later those games will die as they tap out the cash.
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zanderman2009
saw this issue coming as soon as the PS2 died with USEuSoft. an online connection for single player games, online arena games that you can tell there' been zero effort put in - destiny games, utter trash - 'verification' of games, always connected services, etc, etc as soopn as you needed an online connection for no other reason than to connect to rockstar miscrosoft and all that jazz... you were already drowning into this pigs muck
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saw this issue coming as soon as the PS2 died with USEuSoft. an online connection for single player games, online arena games that you can tell there' been zero effort put in - destiny games, utter trash - 'verification' of games, always connected services, etc, etc as soopn as you needed an online connection for no other reason than to connect to rockstar miscrosoft and all that jazz... you were already drowning into this pigs muck
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laceflowerhw
I was really hoping RDNA4 would be a return to specs at the same level as RDNA1 specs (relatively to its contemporary gpus) and this news indicates otherwise.
Original RDNA pushed the limits of its own silicon AND PCB to get the 14Gbps it ended up with, and in doing so kept pace with RTX2070 in terms of memory bandwidth. RDNA4 reducing memory bandwidth compared to the previous generation is ridiculous no matter how you slice it.
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I was really hoping RDNA4 would be a return to specs at the same level as RDNA1 specs (relatively to its contemporary gpus) and this news indicates otherwise.
Original RDNA pushed the limits of its own silicon AND PCB to get the 14Gbps it ended up with, and in doing so kept pace with RTX2070 in terms of memory bandwidth. RDNA4 reducing memory bandwidth compared to the previous generation is ridiculous no matter how you slice it.
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izzyarland5304
Games were never purchasable products, sellers simply didn't have the tools or the balls to out right remove them. Even in the cartridge and cassette days, those manuals the retro vintage crowd misses so much specifically said the software remains the sole property of the publisher. We only ever paid for the right to use the software. If you don't like that, find another hobby, like stamp collecting or scented candles.
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Games were never purchasable products, sellers simply didn't have the tools or the balls to out right remove them. Even in the cartridge and cassette days, those manuals the retro vintage crowd misses so much specifically said the software remains the sole property of the publisher. We only ever paid for the right to use the software. If you don't like that, find another hobby, like stamp collecting or scented candles.
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DarthRayvonGaming
Ubisoft really are the worst (at least most incompetent) publisher about like and have been for some time.
It takes a serious case of special to do an international launch for a title but only realise you dont own the rights to the name of said title until a week or 2 before release resulting in a law suit that delays the title by 2 years in certain territories - see original version of Rocksmith.
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Ubisoft really are the worst (at least most incompetent) publisher about like and have been for some time.
It takes a serious case of special to do an international launch for a title but only realise you dont own the rights to the name of said title until a week or 2 before release resulting in a law suit that delays the title by 2 years in certain territories - see original version of Rocksmith.
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marcmathes41
x570s master F7 is bad! took a good ram oc and killed it then set a normal non tight ram oc and it randomley shuts off like its the psu i am testing the psu today but with the whea errors reported. it killed my ram or cpu lol. im on 2l of water for my cpu and have a ram fan on my ram ram was under 45c cpu was under 72c it was all tested with kuru and various benchmarks after the update showed good.
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x570s master F7 is bad! took a good ram oc and killed it then set a normal non tight ram oc and it randomley shuts off like its the psu i am testing the psu today but with the whea errors reported. it killed my ram or cpu lol. im on 2l of water for my cpu and have a ram fan on my ram ram was under 45c cpu was under 72c it was all tested with kuru and various benchmarks after the update showed good.
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gamersnexus
I currently see no problem at all with GDDR6 on RX8000.
AMD will probably set the necessary memory bandwidth across the width of the interface.
Even my stone old 2080Ti can do more than 700 GB/s with a little memory OC and 352 bit GDDR6.
That's above the level of a newer 4070Ti with 6X and 192 bit only (around 500 GB/s) or even more than the super variant with around 670 GB/s (256 bit).
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I currently see no problem at all with GDDR6 on RX8000.
AMD will probably set the necessary memory bandwidth across the width of the interface.
Even my stone old 2080Ti can do more than 700 GB/s with a little memory OC and 352 bit GDDR6.
That's above the level of a newer 4070Ti with 6X and 192 bit only (around 500 GB/s) or even more than the super variant with around 670 GB/s (256 bit).
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WigneyR
I love to shit on these game companies as much as the rest of us, but if we click yes to the EULA when starting up a game, which you have to do if you want to play it, then you’re accepting the fact that you purchased a license to use the game, not ownership of the game. Until we abolish the EULA, we have no way to fight for ownership.
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I love to shit on these game companies as much as the rest of us, but if we click yes to the EULA when starting up a game, which you have to do if you want to play it, then you’re accepting the fact that you purchased a license to use the game, not ownership of the game. Until we abolish the EULA, we have no way to fight for ownership.
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