HW News - Xbox Hardware is Dead, Good News for Stop Killing Games, NVIDIA 5070 Ti Super
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Date: 2025-07-08
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Olfan
I would very much love legislation to the effect of: If a software product someone has previously purchased is disabled by the manufacturer, the buyer has every right to restore the functionality at the time of purchase. Any laws prohibiting modification, reverse-engineering etc. do not apply to endeavours to make purchased software products usable again.
Simple to understand, nothing to interpret. You buy something, it's yours. They go out of business, lose interest, whatever - it stays yours. They don't have to continue running servers for software that doesn't make any new money. They do have to tolerate people building and running such servers themselves, or removing the part of the software that connects to such servers, though.
Acting out a mindset of: Yes, you bought a lifetime license, but that was not YOUR life, it was the life(cycle) of the software. Which we just ended. What are you gonna do about it. should be impossible to be legal in the first place. Sell me a two-year-license for a game and watch me not buy it. If you sell me a permanent one, you can't be surprised if I expect permanent to mean just that.
This may all go away with services like X-Box Game Pass or Apple Arcade where you actually pay for playing what's on the menu. As long as people still actually buy games, though, those should remain playable indefinitely.
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I would very much love legislation to the effect of: If a software product someone has previously purchased is disabled by the manufacturer, the buyer has every right to restore the functionality at the time of purchase. Any laws prohibiting modification, reverse-engineering etc. do not apply to endeavours to make purchased software products usable again.
Simple to understand, nothing to interpret. You buy something, it's yours. They go out of business, lose interest, whatever - it stays yours. They don't have to continue running servers for software that doesn't make any new money. They do have to tolerate people building and running such servers themselves, or removing the part of the software that connects to such servers, though.
Acting out a mindset of: Yes, you bought a lifetime license, but that was not YOUR life, it was the life(cycle) of the software. Which we just ended. What are you gonna do about it. should be impossible to be legal in the first place. Sell me a two-year-license for a game and watch me not buy it. If you sell me a permanent one, you can't be surprised if I expect permanent to mean just that.
This may all go away with services like X-Box Game Pass or Apple Arcade where you actually pay for playing what's on the menu. As long as people still actually buy games, though, those should remain playable indefinitely.
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TexasCat99
Next month Nvidia will launch the Geforce RTX 5060Ti Super MAX Plus Ultimate Prime Edition.
Why all these names Remember the days when it was simply: GeForce 3, GeForce 3 TI 200 and GeForce 3 TI 500 On average, there's about 12 types of GPUs per generation.
They're all RTX so why bother Adding Super, TI, etc when they already have 4 digits
It's like they want to confuse their customers. (AMD too, but not as bad)
GeForce4 TI4200 and GeForce4 TI4600 sold very well. The TI4400 was in between, nobody bothered. It's savings and performance wasn't worth it. Nvidia also played the memory game as the TI4200 came with 64mb or 128mb. Paid an extra $20 for the 128mb version, which has slower memory than the 64mb, but it still provided about 03% average improved performance. 11 cards total (kind of) with variance of PCI or AGP version. GeForce4 MX = are repackaged GeFore2 GPUs, sold on the cheap $80180.
The MX 460 (Fastest GF2) was $180. The TI4200 came out at $200 and was almost twice as fast.
Competition is what drove NVidia to release new generations that were about 20% better than previous.
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Next month Nvidia will launch the Geforce RTX 5060Ti Super MAX Plus Ultimate Prime Edition.
Why all these names Remember the days when it was simply: GeForce 3, GeForce 3 TI 200 and GeForce 3 TI 500 On average, there's about 12 types of GPUs per generation.
They're all RTX so why bother Adding Super, TI, etc when they already have 4 digits
It's like they want to confuse their customers. (AMD too, but not as bad)
GeForce4 TI4200 and GeForce4 TI4600 sold very well. The TI4400 was in between, nobody bothered. It's savings and performance wasn't worth it. Nvidia also played the memory game as the TI4200 came with 64mb or 128mb. Paid an extra $20 for the 128mb version, which has slower memory than the 64mb, but it still provided about 03% average improved performance. 11 cards total (kind of) with variance of PCI or AGP version. GeForce4 MX = are repackaged GeFore2 GPUs, sold on the cheap $80180.
The MX 460 (Fastest GF2) was $180. The TI4200 came out at $200 and was almost twice as fast.
Competition is what drove NVidia to release new generations that were about 20% better than previous.
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OpalMonkey.
Well, selfishly, and as much as I hate that Blizzard was consumed by Activision and then Microsoft, I'm glad to note the absence of them from those cuts. Diablo IV isn't what it should have been, but it's a lot better than I originally expected, and I do enjoy it. The devs seem to have been pretty decent about things, and I would hate to see them hit significantly.
Good to see Stop Killing Games get the surge it needed. I hope it goes well over the padding level. I can't even imagine how much pushback this will get from not only the major players in the gaming industry, but many, many others. If something like this eventually caused some kind of meaningful protections and it was popular with consumers, it could well bleed off into many other areas. And I'm sure every single one of those industries is lobbying hard to kill even the thought of it.
And, to connect those two thoughts I know it would be far too late to affect Diablo IV, but it gives me hope for later games, maybe, just maybe, being saved.
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Well, selfishly, and as much as I hate that Blizzard was consumed by Activision and then Microsoft, I'm glad to note the absence of them from those cuts. Diablo IV isn't what it should have been, but it's a lot better than I originally expected, and I do enjoy it. The devs seem to have been pretty decent about things, and I would hate to see them hit significantly.
Good to see Stop Killing Games get the surge it needed. I hope it goes well over the padding level. I can't even imagine how much pushback this will get from not only the major players in the gaming industry, but many, many others. If something like this eventually caused some kind of meaningful protections and it was popular with consumers, it could well bleed off into many other areas. And I'm sure every single one of those industries is lobbying hard to kill even the thought of it.
And, to connect those two thoughts I know it would be far too late to affect Diablo IV, but it gives me hope for later games, maybe, just maybe, being saved.
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AndyYoung85
With the Stop Killing Games, Lawmakers don't have to force Game developers to stop making games that can be turned off.. They just need to make sure the purchasing of these games is Transparent.. E.g. a big red banner on the store page saying This developer can turn off this game at anytime People will then avoid those games like the plague and the market will correct itself.
I bought The Crew and The Crew 2, nobody told me they would turn off the servers for the Crew weeks later. I played the game for a few hours so wasn't entitled to a refund and then the game was abandoned.. Its basically robbery. Would you buy a TV if they secretly in their small print said We can break into your house any time and steal this TV back, because its an outdated model, and keep your cash in the process If they had to say this to your face, you would go to a retailer that won't rob you.
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With the Stop Killing Games, Lawmakers don't have to force Game developers to stop making games that can be turned off.. They just need to make sure the purchasing of these games is Transparent.. E.g. a big red banner on the store page saying This developer can turn off this game at anytime People will then avoid those games like the plague and the market will correct itself.
I bought The Crew and The Crew 2, nobody told me they would turn off the servers for the Crew weeks later. I played the game for a few hours so wasn't entitled to a refund and then the game was abandoned.. Its basically robbery. Would you buy a TV if they secretly in their small print said We can break into your house any time and steal this TV back, because its an outdated model, and keep your cash in the process If they had to say this to your face, you would go to a retailer that won't rob you.
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luthermetke8851
RIP Microsoft. This is detrimental. I was hoping that they would make a good arm based OS so that Microsoft doesn't just die. But now with Nvidia making arm CPU GPU combo's I'm afraid that a even slightly more efficient operating system then windows(not hard to do!) could cause the developers to start full only arm support. Combine this with the fact that Nvidia is in bed with Unreal Engine, combine that with CD Project Red now in bed with Unreal............so in bed with Nvidia............we just lost the best third party game engine development in the world imo. If CDPR jumps ship to arm.........because they get Strong Armed by Nvidia we could be looking at the death of the modern PC as we know it. And if Nvidia gains a monopoly of not only the gpu's but the cpu's too..............we could be looking at some SERIOSLY unaffordable video games!
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RIP Microsoft. This is detrimental. I was hoping that they would make a good arm based OS so that Microsoft doesn't just die. But now with Nvidia making arm CPU GPU combo's I'm afraid that a even slightly more efficient operating system then windows(not hard to do!) could cause the developers to start full only arm support. Combine this with the fact that Nvidia is in bed with Unreal Engine, combine that with CD Project Red now in bed with Unreal............so in bed with Nvidia............we just lost the best third party game engine development in the world imo. If CDPR jumps ship to arm.........because they get Strong Armed by Nvidia we could be looking at the death of the modern PC as we know it. And if Nvidia gains a monopoly of not only the gpu's but the cpu's too..............we could be looking at some SERIOSLY unaffordable video games!
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jnmk6205
By around or before 8:35 , yo, Steve Burke, you should not have emphasized only 400,000 over a million as a threshold to ensure breathing a sigh of relief!!!! Why not Because the wall street infinite liquidity hostaging fraudsters literally can easily afford (with infinite wealth extraction, infinite theft of rehypothecated assets hidden in swaps and derivatives and failures-to-deliver and consolidated audit trail errors, etcetera) to introduce even a million fraudulent signatures, which if that is the case, then the 1,400,000 will only be 400,000 legitimate, and 1,000,000 removed, thereby rugpulling all the humans that got duped and fooled and fleeces and tricked and swindled by sentiment, emotions, feelings, rather than sticking to the fundamental factual reality
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By around or before 8:35 , yo, Steve Burke, you should not have emphasized only 400,000 over a million as a threshold to ensure breathing a sigh of relief!!!! Why not Because the wall street infinite liquidity hostaging fraudsters literally can easily afford (with infinite wealth extraction, infinite theft of rehypothecated assets hidden in swaps and derivatives and failures-to-deliver and consolidated audit trail errors, etcetera) to introduce even a million fraudulent signatures, which if that is the case, then the 1,400,000 will only be 400,000 legitimate, and 1,000,000 removed, thereby rugpulling all the humans that got duped and fooled and fleeces and tricked and swindled by sentiment, emotions, feelings, rather than sticking to the fundamental factual reality
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mab2187
Games used to be something you'd own, a CD used to be something you could own or sell or share. Games used to be finnished products without DLC and bugs. But today there are DLC after DLC, live services, prem content to purchase, buggy games, no more CD-only digital but just as expensive if not more, you don't own games but buy the right to play it which can be revoked at any moment... I want games to be considered owned once again & to not die, especially old games-I want them to be still playable. I don't want games to be unplayable, to be dead forever after 10, 20, 30 years. Have an online library where your games are present digitally forever and can be redownloaded easy and played, single player, offline mode.
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Games used to be something you'd own, a CD used to be something you could own or sell or share. Games used to be finnished products without DLC and bugs. But today there are DLC after DLC, live services, prem content to purchase, buggy games, no more CD-only digital but just as expensive if not more, you don't own games but buy the right to play it which can be revoked at any moment... I want games to be considered owned once again & to not die, especially old games-I want them to be still playable. I don't want games to be unplayable, to be dead forever after 10, 20, 30 years. Have an online library where your games are present digitally forever and can be redownloaded easy and played, single player, offline mode.
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xXKisskerXx
I mean what are box consoles anymore, but just extremely prioritized PCs Especially when they want us to pay the same price for a digital copy we 'don't own' - as for a physical copy of a game. I mean, it would be one thing if they sold games on Solid State Storage Solutions like in the older days, especially as the flash system has improved so much (to the point of TB on thumb drives) - so.. why not go back to a solid state game system It would be faster than CD/DVD, and not require internet to download a massive dump file, nor massive drives to install all the time... and for $80 a game now.. it would make it make sense.
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I mean what are box consoles anymore, but just extremely prioritized PCs Especially when they want us to pay the same price for a digital copy we 'don't own' - as for a physical copy of a game. I mean, it would be one thing if they sold games on Solid State Storage Solutions like in the older days, especially as the flash system has improved so much (to the point of TB on thumb drives) - so.. why not go back to a solid state game system It would be faster than CD/DVD, and not require internet to download a massive dump file, nor massive drives to install all the time... and for $80 a game now.. it would make it make sense.
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Meditations2024
Microsoft was never in the hardware business to begin with. The Nintendo Switch was a proof of concept and the Steam Deck only reinforced that concept. You're competing with smart phones nowadays...old lady...
What Microsoft does have is the ability to craft a lightweight variant of Windows suitable for a handheld platform. Software is what makes money; it's always been the case.
Microsoft still owns the game studios; still owns the gaming IP. Even Sony doesn't really make it's own consoles, although it does appear that Mark Cerny may be the best GPU engineer AMD has nowadays...and he works for Sony...
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Microsoft was never in the hardware business to begin with. The Nintendo Switch was a proof of concept and the Steam Deck only reinforced that concept. You're competing with smart phones nowadays...old lady...
What Microsoft does have is the ability to craft a lightweight variant of Windows suitable for a handheld platform. Software is what makes money; it's always been the case.
Microsoft still owns the game studios; still owns the gaming IP. Even Sony doesn't really make it's own consoles, although it does appear that Mark Cerny may be the best GPU engineer AMD has nowadays...and he works for Sony...
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Coop540
I don't know why people are surprised that gaming companies are still laying off and firing people. The games I've played lately from triple A studios are really bad. They spend more time putting politics into games than making them good. I hope the gaming market crashes further. Get these politically deranged losers out of gaming and these idiotic CEO's who hired them gone. You have a place here as consumers but you should not be determining the direction of the industry. You would think tanking film, tv, and comics would have been enough.
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I don't know why people are surprised that gaming companies are still laying off and firing people. The games I've played lately from triple A studios are really bad. They spend more time putting politics into games than making them good. I hope the gaming market crashes further. Get these politically deranged losers out of gaming and these idiotic CEO's who hired them gone. You have a place here as consumers but you should not be determining the direction of the industry. You would think tanking film, tv, and comics would have been enough.
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dotgif397
I'm really concerned that skg isn't taking into account the complexity of modern multiplayer infrastructure... it's more complex than it was even ten years ago. Some of these projects will contain hard-coded references to secret stores in S3, auto-scaling configs, cloud functions... making that openable in any way is so difficult. It's not even close to spinning up a server somewhere and calling it.
I love the idea but I don't think the industry is in a place where they can release binaries or open source.
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I'm really concerned that skg isn't taking into account the complexity of modern multiplayer infrastructure... it's more complex than it was even ten years ago. Some of these projects will contain hard-coded references to secret stores in S3, auto-scaling configs, cloud functions... making that openable in any way is so difficult. It's not even close to spinning up a server somewhere and calling it.
I love the idea but I don't think the industry is in a place where they can release binaries or open source.
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RipHunter-l7x
6:11 They UK gov already said that they are not going to do anything about it and they will be monitoring the situation so that most likely means monitoring all the people that signed the petition because the UK gov loves mass surveillance. About the EU i think that the chances of Von Der Leyen and the rest of bureaucrats doing anything about it is near zero just because far more important petitions like StopKillingChildrenInGaza the commission didn't do ANYTHING about except virtue signalling.
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6:11 They UK gov already said that they are not going to do anything about it and they will be monitoring the situation so that most likely means monitoring all the people that signed the petition because the UK gov loves mass surveillance. About the EU i think that the chances of Von Der Leyen and the rest of bureaucrats doing anything about it is near zero just because far more important petitions like StopKillingChildrenInGaza the commission didn't do ANYTHING about except virtue signalling.
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nathanklinger5866
The Activision acquisition should have never happened.
That was always an argument in court when Microsoft was trying to acquire these businesses. Xbox claimed they would just be owners and leave the studios alone, for the most part.
Xbox sales were pathetic, so they tried to buy up all the main third-party studios. Just to gut them and cancel ongoing projects.
This along with game pass, has severely detrimented the gaming industry. Fair Trade Commission was involved for a reason.
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The Activision acquisition should have never happened.
That was always an argument in court when Microsoft was trying to acquire these businesses. Xbox claimed they would just be owners and leave the studios alone, for the most part.
Xbox sales were pathetic, so they tried to buy up all the main third-party studios. Just to gut them and cancel ongoing projects.
This along with game pass, has severely detrimented the gaming industry. Fair Trade Commission was involved for a reason.
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TexasCat99
Its amazing that Microsoft makes money. I guess, MS-Office is their main thing. MS-Windows is just an OS to run MS-Office. Almost anything can run on Linux. Which is a much faster and painless install compared to Windows11 - without the built-in spam and spyware.
You would think MS would go more the way of SEGA, sure - end the XBOX console and just make money from the games. Leave it to the SONY and NINTNEDO now to make dedicated hardware.
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Its amazing that Microsoft makes money. I guess, MS-Office is their main thing. MS-Windows is just an OS to run MS-Office. Almost anything can run on Linux. Which is a much faster and painless install compared to Windows11 - without the built-in spam and spyware.
You would think MS would go more the way of SEGA, sure - end the XBOX console and just make money from the games. Leave it to the SONY and NINTNEDO now to make dedicated hardware.
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Meditations2024
According to tech reviewers 50% more VRAM directly correlates into 100% more frames, so yeah, I'm Super excited!!!
Anyhoo, the pricing structure will determine if I buy a new GPU. The RTX 5070 Ti Super or 5080 Super (if it exists) are what I'd be most interested in. The longer I wait, the more I save...
I'd like to get a high refresh panel first though, and there are no glossy 4K 240 Hz W-OLED panels from reputable manufacturers yet.
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According to tech reviewers 50% more VRAM directly correlates into 100% more frames, so yeah, I'm Super excited!!!
Anyhoo, the pricing structure will determine if I buy a new GPU. The RTX 5070 Ti Super or 5080 Super (if it exists) are what I'd be most interested in. The longer I wait, the more I save...
I'd like to get a high refresh panel first though, and there are no glossy 4K 240 Hz W-OLED panels from reputable manufacturers yet.
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hfric
19:00 why the 18GB or 24GB of ram ... by auto in 1080p 2GB is taken by your AI upscaler (if you use one) and 512ram for Video Capture ... so those 8GB cards if they use DLSS and capture video only have 5.5GB to use in games (Nvidia now brags new Drivers give you back 20% ram , but all sane people use the unofficial drivers with all unlocked) ... this is why the same models with 16GB outperform them (since they have 14GB if you use DLSSV capture)
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19:00 why the 18GB or 24GB of ram ... by auto in 1080p 2GB is taken by your AI upscaler (if you use one) and 512ram for Video Capture ... so those 8GB cards if they use DLSS and capture video only have 5.5GB to use in games (Nvidia now brags new Drivers give you back 20% ram , but all sane people use the unofficial drivers with all unlocked) ... this is why the same models with 16GB outperform them (since they have 14GB if you use DLSSV capture)
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ryancarroll5706
Xbox PC would sell millions. Integrate Xbox code into a PC. Sell 4 Versions (They already do 2 versions) to you keep some Standards. Standard $500 Xbox, $1,000 Midrange Xbox, $1,500 Upper Mid-Range, and a $2,500 top of the line. The Xbox already has enough Horsepower to be a PC. Why not do both Hey boss, I need a new computer as this thing is too old, here is an XBOX!
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Xbox PC would sell millions. Integrate Xbox code into a PC. Sell 4 Versions (They already do 2 versions) to you keep some Standards. Standard $500 Xbox, $1,000 Midrange Xbox, $1,500 Upper Mid-Range, and a $2,500 top of the line. The Xbox already has enough Horsepower to be a PC. Why not do both Hey boss, I need a new computer as this thing is too old, here is an XBOX!
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ChristopherOrth
If a team of people have worked for half a decade and still don't have a marketable product, it doesn't matter how much you spent on them. Cut your losses rather than doubling down on sunk cost. Honestly, game purchasers are NOT a jobs program! It sucks when people lose jobs, but it sucks more when they get a six figure salary for years on end to product nothing of value.
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If a team of people have worked for half a decade and still don't have a marketable product, it doesn't matter how much you spent on them. Cut your losses rather than doubling down on sunk cost. Honestly, game purchasers are NOT a jobs program! It sucks when people lose jobs, but it sucks more when they get a six figure salary for years on end to product nothing of value.
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craciunator99
Imagine if people cared about their government screwing them over and getting Fked with taxes every single day every time money moves hands, as much about games being killed, or their entertainment in general. The entertainment exists to distract people from the back we are being screwed by our government and mega corporations every second of every day.
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Imagine if people cared about their government screwing them over and getting Fked with taxes every single day every time money moves hands, as much about games being killed, or their entertainment in general. The entertainment exists to distract people from the back we are being screwed by our government and mega corporations every second of every day.
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saull287
Microsoft are a bunch of clowns with $, that buy companies to put their mediocre technology in them, they fail and they have to cut costs, 'coz games are not being developed so probably the Game Testers are the first to get the Axe; probably to rehire them at a small fraction of the previous salary
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Microsoft are a bunch of clowns with $, that buy companies to put their mediocre technology in them, they fail and they have to cut costs, 'coz games are not being developed so probably the Game Testers are the first to get the Axe; probably to rehire them at a small fraction of the previous salary
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