Honda Civic: DIY Brake Job Gone Wrong
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Date: 2021-08-14
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mrdfoutz
The best caliper tool you can have doesn't come from the parts store. It comes from a hardware store: A piece of solid strand wire.
12 gauge copper works well, but I prefer a big ole fat piece of solid aluminum service entrance cable because it's so flexible. I have about a 16 length that I run one end through the caliper and twist it closed (like a bread tie, then wrap the other end around the spring, suspension, or anywhere that has an opening and suspends the caliper within reach. Your caliper is now safely suspended properly, not by the hose or cabling. Store that strand of wire where you can get to it for the next brake job.
Actually, that service entrance cable that has several gauges wrapped together comes in handy all around the garage/house! I used the smaller size to unclog my water heater's drain valve. Buy 3 or 4 feet of it. You will not regret the investment.
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The best caliper tool you can have doesn't come from the parts store. It comes from a hardware store: A piece of solid strand wire.
12 gauge copper works well, but I prefer a big ole fat piece of solid aluminum service entrance cable because it's so flexible. I have about a 16 length that I run one end through the caliper and twist it closed (like a bread tie, then wrap the other end around the spring, suspension, or anywhere that has an opening and suspends the caliper within reach. Your caliper is now safely suspended properly, not by the hose or cabling. Store that strand of wire where you can get to it for the next brake job.
Actually, that service entrance cable that has several gauges wrapped together comes in handy all around the garage/house! I used the smaller size to unclog my water heater's drain valve. Buy 3 or 4 feet of it. You will not regret the investment.
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wirenutt57
I'm gonna go ahead and postulate that the funky connectors are for manufacturing efficiencies, not for electrical reasons, as any extra connection degrades the quality and the reliability of the assembly. They probably make that jumper for use in several applications, and terminate in bulk the wires right up to the point of the actual female connector part, and it allows them to assemble any other kind of final termination as needed. Not an EE per se, but am an industrial electrician with electrical and computer engineering degrees who has done my share of engineering, when the other engineers couldn't do it or were to busy to be bothered.
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I'm gonna go ahead and postulate that the funky connectors are for manufacturing efficiencies, not for electrical reasons, as any extra connection degrades the quality and the reliability of the assembly. They probably make that jumper for use in several applications, and terminate in bulk the wires right up to the point of the actual female connector part, and it allows them to assemble any other kind of final termination as needed. Not an EE per se, but am an industrial electrician with electrical and computer engineering degrees who has done my share of engineering, when the other engineers couldn't do it or were to busy to be bothered.
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Kyle
seeing a lot of comments on the break away in case that the caliper is dropped and I bet there is something in the assembly as well. Maybe the get the one half of the clip assembled with the actuator and connector and then when they go to install the wiring they just shove the other clipped end into the socket?
Great video as always and I am fully convinced that you would have found the problem before recommending a wiring solution. Let's check for continuity from this connector to the connector at the actuator. well there's yer problem lady.
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seeing a lot of comments on the break away in case that the caliper is dropped and I bet there is something in the assembly as well. Maybe the get the one half of the clip assembled with the actuator and connector and then when they go to install the wiring they just shove the other clipped end into the socket?
Great video as always and I am fully convinced that you would have found the problem before recommending a wiring solution. Let's check for continuity from this connector to the connector at the actuator. well there's yer problem lady.
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Marion
I think the two part pin design is for multiple use application, car manufactures don't usually make their own harnesses. VW and Suburu have similar connections. The harness manufacture can have a huge run of wires with the same male pin and then build the unique car harnnesess to the different car manufactures connection specification. Car manufactures can change the connector design but need to keep the locking mechanism for the male pin the same, this saves money.
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I think the two part pin design is for multiple use application, car manufactures don't usually make their own harnesses. VW and Suburu have similar connections. The harness manufacture can have a huge run of wires with the same male pin and then build the unique car harnnesess to the different car manufactures connection specification. Car manufactures can change the connector design but need to keep the locking mechanism for the male pin the same, this saves money.
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Byron
I don't think they want you to take these things apart. -- Actually, I don't think they want you to put those things back together. Tearing tape makes the end thinner and jagged so fewer scraping things will start it unwinding. thus that was bad advice. As an EE my best guess is so that it fails non-destructively when jerked. It is very seldom that adding mechanical connections improves performance or reliability and certainly increasing complexity increases cost.
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I don't think they want you to take these things apart. -- Actually, I don't think they want you to put those things back together. Tearing tape makes the end thinner and jagged so fewer scraping things will start it unwinding. thus that was bad advice. As an EE my best guess is so that it fails non-destructively when jerked. It is very seldom that adding mechanical connections improves performance or reliability and certainly increasing complexity increases cost.
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Dan
Once again Erric O proves himself to be a true Master Technician. No guessing or swapping parts. Erric does real-time logical diagnostic work and identifies the problem at hand as a true professional should. Here s to you sir, where I am located I can t even get local shops and dealers to be honest about changing my fluids much less quality repairs. We need a million more like you
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Once again Erric O proves himself to be a true Master Technician. No guessing or swapping parts. Erric does real-time logical diagnostic work and identifies the problem at hand as a true professional should. Here s to you sir, where I am located I can t even get local shops and dealers to be honest about changing my fluids much less quality repairs. We need a million more like you
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tomctutor
Its bad design to have unnecessary interconnections electrically, for obvious reasons. I imagine it was so the harnesses can be made up en masse then worry about final plugs later on, or allow for different designs of plugs! Anyhow a critical function should really not have a weak connection like that in that location! (X Techdyne Auto harness designer speaking)
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Its bad design to have unnecessary interconnections electrically, for obvious reasons. I imagine it was so the harnesses can be made up en masse then worry about final plugs later on, or allow for different designs of plugs! Anyhow a critical function should really not have a weak connection like that in that location! (X Techdyne Auto harness designer speaking)
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Jose
Great repair Eric I am not a EE but I was ME retired. My understanding, is a strain release not to damage the actual terminal also just to drive mechanics crazy with these new designs, which some EE come out. Some of this designs are done on purpose for mechanic to install a new cable and charge customers a lots of. Love the video stay safe and healthy thank
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Great repair Eric I am not a EE but I was ME retired. My understanding, is a strain release not to damage the actual terminal also just to drive mechanics crazy with these new designs, which some EE come out. Some of this designs are done on purpose for mechanic to install a new cable and charge customers a lots of. Love the video stay safe and healthy thank
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NightHawk
Electronic parking brakes suck cant believe Honda went that way. Ive been Honda owner for years and always will be. Im used to a cable not this. But then a cable stretches and requires adjustment then once its been ran out of adjustment. Needs replacement but you can get years out of them. The future kinda sucks rn
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Electronic parking brakes suck cant believe Honda went that way. Ive been Honda owner for years and always will be. Im used to a cable not this. But then a cable stretches and requires adjustment then once its been ran out of adjustment. Needs replacement but you can get years out of them. The future kinda sucks rn
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