Introducing the DougScore (and Reviewing My Range Rover)
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Date: 2019-10-25
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Comments and reviews: 10
Raif Akar
I ve had 4 Range Rovers since 2006. First off, you dont buy an HSE. You want a Range Rover, you buy it right and buy it Supercharged. That will take care of your lack of acceleration. Supercharged one will surprise you with its acceleration. Secondly, the Range Rover is actually the only SUV that comes with counterweights underneath the rear quarter panels that are designed to greatly reduce body roll. You just need to know how to corner with a Range Rover. If you are getting body roll, it is because you dont know how to drive it. And the newer models now come with an Adaptive Dynamics system that plants the truck on the road. I have owned all of the major players in the large luxury SUV segment, and believe me, nothing is as mighty as the Range Rover, even though it is smaller than its competitors. People take videos of my truck at the boat ramp as I pull a 35 feet, 8000 lbs boat out of the water. Not only my truck does not slip or slide like every single other truck around me at that ramp, but I actually do not even have to hit the gas to pull the boat out. All I do is to put the transmission in low range, and let go of the brake. The truck pulls the boat out of the water on IDLE. Try doing that with another truck. And the speed and cornering? Forget about it. If you own a supercharged one, and HAVE THE SKILLS to drive it like its meant to be driven, you will defy the laws of physics. With that said, it is not a Ferrari, obviously. But no other truck in its segment can touch it. Test drive a supercharged one; just make sure that it is not one that has been driven by an old person though. because the truck adapts to your driving style, and if the previous owner was not an aggressive driver, the truck will feel sluggish, as it molds itself to its owners driving style.
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I ve had 4 Range Rovers since 2006. First off, you dont buy an HSE. You want a Range Rover, you buy it right and buy it Supercharged. That will take care of your lack of acceleration. Supercharged one will surprise you with its acceleration. Secondly, the Range Rover is actually the only SUV that comes with counterweights underneath the rear quarter panels that are designed to greatly reduce body roll. You just need to know how to corner with a Range Rover. If you are getting body roll, it is because you dont know how to drive it. And the newer models now come with an Adaptive Dynamics system that plants the truck on the road. I have owned all of the major players in the large luxury SUV segment, and believe me, nothing is as mighty as the Range Rover, even though it is smaller than its competitors. People take videos of my truck at the boat ramp as I pull a 35 feet, 8000 lbs boat out of the water. Not only my truck does not slip or slide like every single other truck around me at that ramp, but I actually do not even have to hit the gas to pull the boat out. All I do is to put the transmission in low range, and let go of the brake. The truck pulls the boat out of the water on IDLE. Try doing that with another truck. And the speed and cornering? Forget about it. If you own a supercharged one, and HAVE THE SKILLS to drive it like its meant to be driven, you will defy the laws of physics. With that said, it is not a Ferrari, obviously. But no other truck in its segment can touch it. Test drive a supercharged one; just make sure that it is not one that has been driven by an old person though. because the truck adapts to your driving style, and if the previous owner was not an aggressive driver, the truck will feel sluggish, as it molds itself to its owners driving style.
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ct britva
That scoring system really beat up this rover. Mixing quality of materials and reliability into one item messed things up, considering the great seats and trim the vehicle is loaded with. Doug also said there's nothing sporty about this car, but was obviously only referring to the motor, which isn't bad at all for these cars. 300HP in a 3 ton vehicle isn't going to get it racing, but Land Rovers are more about torque in the middle of the RPM range. And, sporty has a much different meaning if you considered that this car can take you around quite a bit offroad (no it's not going rock crawling with a lifted white trash truck, through sand, riverbeds, mud, up hills and snow in more comfort than anything else, which wasn't considered in the Luxury or Fun categories. These are amazing cars and for a few grand, it's a great vehicle, but it'll cost a lot in maintenance, of course. The saying is Land Rover - Turning owners into mechanics since 1948 - if you aren't a wealthy original owner, you'll either need that Carmax warranty, skills or a willingness to learn a lot and sometimes the help of a skilled, affordable shop, but they won't be able to do everything. There are other qualities this Rover has that aren't really considered properly. It's a very attractive vehicle, especially for an SUV, it's very classy and has prestige, which even cars like the Cayenne only pretend to have. I own a Range Rover Classic and Discovery II, but I've had my eye on this model since it was released under BMW (and with a BMW engine) in 2003. I think I'll have to get the 2012 HSE Lux, the last of the real British designed Range Rovers.
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That scoring system really beat up this rover. Mixing quality of materials and reliability into one item messed things up, considering the great seats and trim the vehicle is loaded with. Doug also said there's nothing sporty about this car, but was obviously only referring to the motor, which isn't bad at all for these cars. 300HP in a 3 ton vehicle isn't going to get it racing, but Land Rovers are more about torque in the middle of the RPM range. And, sporty has a much different meaning if you considered that this car can take you around quite a bit offroad (no it's not going rock crawling with a lifted white trash truck, through sand, riverbeds, mud, up hills and snow in more comfort than anything else, which wasn't considered in the Luxury or Fun categories. These are amazing cars and for a few grand, it's a great vehicle, but it'll cost a lot in maintenance, of course. The saying is Land Rover - Turning owners into mechanics since 1948 - if you aren't a wealthy original owner, you'll either need that Carmax warranty, skills or a willingness to learn a lot and sometimes the help of a skilled, affordable shop, but they won't be able to do everything. There are other qualities this Rover has that aren't really considered properly. It's a very attractive vehicle, especially for an SUV, it's very classy and has prestige, which even cars like the Cayenne only pretend to have. I own a Range Rover Classic and Discovery II, but I've had my eye on this model since it was released under BMW (and with a BMW engine) in 2003. I think I'll have to get the 2012 HSE Lux, the last of the real British designed Range Rovers.
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Delta Man
. considering all the cars you've driven and rated I'm really surprised and kind of disappointed that you'd actually buy one of these Range Rovers. You strike me as being a very conscientious type of guy who would choose to drive a vehicle that's not only economical but reliable to own and drive. but in reality nothing is more opposite to that than owning one of these vehicles. But then I think I also saw you review an Aston Martin which I believe you said you owned as well. Do you just like to own finicky cars that are expensive and less than reliable to drive. or is it for the status and what people think of you when you're seen behind the wheel of one of these? Just saying my friend. :)
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. considering all the cars you've driven and rated I'm really surprised and kind of disappointed that you'd actually buy one of these Range Rovers. You strike me as being a very conscientious type of guy who would choose to drive a vehicle that's not only economical but reliable to own and drive. but in reality nothing is more opposite to that than owning one of these vehicles. But then I think I also saw you review an Aston Martin which I believe you said you owned as well. Do you just like to own finicky cars that are expensive and less than reliable to drive. or is it for the status and what people think of you when you're seen behind the wheel of one of these? Just saying my friend. :)
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ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
Holy crap. 16K in repairs? I have same model/year with over 160K and owned it for 10 years and haven't spent 3K (electronic dash wigged out/rear backup light died and replaced front air suspension. Other than that, it looks great, runs great and just keeps on plugging along. No rattles, seat position is excellent. Just replace oil and tires. Still has original water pump/alternator. 6 CD changer died after a few years, but honestly I didn't notice since I long ago threw out my cDs. Like Doug, I used a cheap FM transmitter, but I mostly listen to NPR anyway. Speaker system is quite good. I'll likely keep it until it dies - don't see that happening any time soon.
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Holy crap. 16K in repairs? I have same model/year with over 160K and owned it for 10 years and haven't spent 3K (electronic dash wigged out/rear backup light died and replaced front air suspension. Other than that, it looks great, runs great and just keeps on plugging along. No rattles, seat position is excellent. Just replace oil and tires. Still has original water pump/alternator. 6 CD changer died after a few years, but honestly I didn't notice since I long ago threw out my cDs. Like Doug, I used a cheap FM transmitter, but I mostly listen to NPR anyway. Speaker system is quite good. I'll likely keep it until it dies - don't see that happening any time soon.
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Dietitian J
So my first car was also a range rover, but it was the Autobiography 2004, which range rover sold 125 only and only made in 2004 and only sold in Europe, the US version of that car was the range rover west-minister, yes i had all the typical range rover issues and also the worse milage per gal. But the car had amazing feel of luxury, it had a 14 position front seats and heated front and back seats, a dvd player with 2 screens for back passengers with 6 DVD changer, a badge saying Autobiography on each door interior pedal when door opens and had also a tape player which was behind the front infotainment system, which typically all range rovers had before 2005
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So my first car was also a range rover, but it was the Autobiography 2004, which range rover sold 125 only and only made in 2004 and only sold in Europe, the US version of that car was the range rover west-minister, yes i had all the typical range rover issues and also the worse milage per gal. But the car had amazing feel of luxury, it had a 14 position front seats and heated front and back seats, a dvd player with 2 screens for back passengers with 6 DVD changer, a badge saying Autobiography on each door interior pedal when door opens and had also a tape player which was behind the front infotainment system, which typically all range rovers had before 2005
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Raif Akar
If you ask me, you should buy a 2010 to 2012 full size Supercharged Range Rover and you will be happy with it. Best ones ever made, including the later models (2013-2018. The new ones need a lot of repairs just like the ones before 2010. I also own a 2013 SL550 and a 2015 S550, and I find myself reaching for my Range Rover keys most of the time. I go up n down the east coast a lot, the last one i traded in had over 280, 000 miles.
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If you ask me, you should buy a 2010 to 2012 full size Supercharged Range Rover and you will be happy with it. Best ones ever made, including the later models (2013-2018. The new ones need a lot of repairs just like the ones before 2010. I also own a 2013 SL550 and a 2015 S550, and I find myself reaching for my Range Rover keys most of the time. I go up n down the east coast a lot, the last one i traded in had over 280, 000 miles.
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Grass Board Nerds
The nav system on these early nav cars is why for my LR2 I dont have one, perhaps I might get an aftermarket one that fits in the housing but I rather like the cubby that is there instead. Plus I plug an fm transmitter into the rear aux port for good sound and my phone works as a navigation device. (Instead of a traditional phone mount I found a magnetic one that came with lil magnet stickers for the back of your phone.
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The nav system on these early nav cars is why for my LR2 I dont have one, perhaps I might get an aftermarket one that fits in the housing but I rather like the cubby that is there instead. Plus I plug an fm transmitter into the rear aux port for good sound and my phone works as a navigation device. (Instead of a traditional phone mount I found a magnetic one that came with lil magnet stickers for the back of your phone.
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rrpostalagain
Ive got the same car, except theres a tape player hidden behind the info screen. The big problem is that all of the car info stuff is on the same screen as the radio. So, unlike my old MB, I cant just put in a modern touchscreen Bluetooth radio without losing important functionality. Im looking in to upgrading to the next gen infotainment stuff. It seems possible, if not simple.
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Ive got the same car, except theres a tape player hidden behind the info screen. The big problem is that all of the car info stuff is on the same screen as the radio. So, unlike my old MB, I cant just put in a modern touchscreen Bluetooth radio without losing important functionality. Im looking in to upgrading to the next gen infotainment stuff. It seems possible, if not simple.
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cytherians
If there's no real appreciable way to improve the handling with suspension and linkage upgrades, no way to eliminate that lumbering through corners, I'd not have been able to drive this Range Rover for as long as you have. Kind of surprised to hear how disappointing the handling is, given all your experience with other cars. Did the other factors really compensate for it?
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If there's no real appreciable way to improve the handling with suspension and linkage upgrades, no way to eliminate that lumbering through corners, I'd not have been able to drive this Range Rover for as long as you have. Kind of surprised to hear how disappointing the handling is, given all your experience with other cars. Did the other factors really compensate for it?
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C Niz
carmax range rover warranty? This information may drastically changes things for me, I had just given up on the notion of the range due to repair costs esp if living in L. A. Just felt like rolling dice on a used RR. Going to research Carmax warranty thing more Thank you And omg, I am originally from Philly area Woot, woot
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carmax range rover warranty? This information may drastically changes things for me, I had just given up on the notion of the range due to repair costs esp if living in L. A. Just felt like rolling dice on a used RR. Going to research Carmax warranty thing more Thank you And omg, I am originally from Philly area Woot, woot
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