MR2 takes Miss Daisy parts (Water to air Intercooler Install)
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Date: 2020-07-07
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NimbleSeaUrchin
I'm going full 21: 30 Marty with my highschool love affair of a first 'real' car, a 1992 Mercedes Benz 190e. Much the same situation. Lots of ingenious solutions to pedestrian problems by today's standards, particularly in the fueling system. The mechanical injection system uses a series of springs and an electronic fuel pressure regulator to control the fuel pressure the spring system sees, in order to properly add enough fuel for the metered amount of air coming into the system, using an even more complex arrangement of an air flow plate connected to a potentiometer, and assisted by a series of vacuum lines that go every which way. Really, the best way to explain how overengineered this car is, is in the wiper system. The windshield is roughly twice as wide as it is tall, meaning a properly sized wiper blade could reach the far sides, and the top in one sweep. But, that's not good enough. Throughout the travel across the windshield, a series of gears control an articulating portion of the wiper arm, to make it extend as far into the top corners of the windshield, and still come all the way back in to clear the top of the windshield. Absolutely ingenious solution to a mundane problem, properly solved by the use of TWO wiper blades. Arguably, it even works better. As long as all the pieces of this ridiculous puzzle are working properly. Like the plastic drive gear for the articulation system, meshing together with a metal gear pattern. Definitely not a wear item.
The actual issue with the fuel system, and the car as a whole, is much the same. All you have to do is bolt on a proper fuel rail, modern, reliable, new injectors, bin the vacuum controlled spark advance for an electronically controlled ignition timing system, and wire and install a brain to control it all, and you have a car that runs properly all the time instead of only once in a blue moon. Only there's no usable trigger system for anything in the whole system. And all the sensors have some silly metric thread with no modern equivalent. So every single sensor port in the head needs to be tapped out to receive a modern sensor. And if you're going that far, you might as well turbo it and double the cost of the project for double the horsepower. Only if you're doing that, you should probably take care of the oil seeping from all of the crank seals and transmission seals. Speaking of the transmission, take out that automatic with another silly vacuum controlled system, and replace it with a conventional manual with no funny business happening. And now all of a sudden, you have 10, 000 in a 500 nugget that's still hailed out.
The suspensions all good, though, which means we can just ignore all the problems, drive the motor at 9/10ths on the street just to keep up with traffic, and fill it with fluids until it pukes it's guts out. Or just try and sell it on to another owner, hopefully one with more free time and ambition than I have.
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I'm going full 21: 30 Marty with my highschool love affair of a first 'real' car, a 1992 Mercedes Benz 190e. Much the same situation. Lots of ingenious solutions to pedestrian problems by today's standards, particularly in the fueling system. The mechanical injection system uses a series of springs and an electronic fuel pressure regulator to control the fuel pressure the spring system sees, in order to properly add enough fuel for the metered amount of air coming into the system, using an even more complex arrangement of an air flow plate connected to a potentiometer, and assisted by a series of vacuum lines that go every which way. Really, the best way to explain how overengineered this car is, is in the wiper system. The windshield is roughly twice as wide as it is tall, meaning a properly sized wiper blade could reach the far sides, and the top in one sweep. But, that's not good enough. Throughout the travel across the windshield, a series of gears control an articulating portion of the wiper arm, to make it extend as far into the top corners of the windshield, and still come all the way back in to clear the top of the windshield. Absolutely ingenious solution to a mundane problem, properly solved by the use of TWO wiper blades. Arguably, it even works better. As long as all the pieces of this ridiculous puzzle are working properly. Like the plastic drive gear for the articulation system, meshing together with a metal gear pattern. Definitely not a wear item.
The actual issue with the fuel system, and the car as a whole, is much the same. All you have to do is bolt on a proper fuel rail, modern, reliable, new injectors, bin the vacuum controlled spark advance for an electronically controlled ignition timing system, and wire and install a brain to control it all, and you have a car that runs properly all the time instead of only once in a blue moon. Only there's no usable trigger system for anything in the whole system. And all the sensors have some silly metric thread with no modern equivalent. So every single sensor port in the head needs to be tapped out to receive a modern sensor. And if you're going that far, you might as well turbo it and double the cost of the project for double the horsepower. Only if you're doing that, you should probably take care of the oil seeping from all of the crank seals and transmission seals. Speaking of the transmission, take out that automatic with another silly vacuum controlled system, and replace it with a conventional manual with no funny business happening. And now all of a sudden, you have 10, 000 in a 500 nugget that's still hailed out.
The suspensions all good, though, which means we can just ignore all the problems, drive the motor at 9/10ths on the street just to keep up with traffic, and fill it with fluids until it pukes it's guts out. Or just try and sell it on to another owner, hopefully one with more free time and ambition than I have.
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hellcat1988
I feel sorry for you. I have a 95 neon that I've had running without the throttle body, so no throttle position sensor or idle air control valve, and no intake pressure sensor. It fires right up with just the cam and crank sensors, the coil, and the injectors hooked up. It doesn't IDLE well without the throttle body or associated sensors, but it does run like that. There is something to be said for the simplicity of early 90's electronic engine control.
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I feel sorry for you. I have a 95 neon that I've had running without the throttle body, so no throttle position sensor or idle air control valve, and no intake pressure sensor. It fires right up with just the cam and crank sensors, the coil, and the injectors hooked up. It doesn't IDLE well without the throttle body or associated sensors, but it does run like that. There is something to be said for the simplicity of early 90's electronic engine control.
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Adam
Canadian fan here. Loved your content for years. Lots of people in the comments telling you that your car isn't that rusty and making jokes, but I haven't seen anyone actually offer tips for working with rusty cars. If you can (foresight is hard, soak any bolts that look tough the night before with penetrating oil and you won't believe the difference it makes. Cheers
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Canadian fan here. Loved your content for years. Lots of people in the comments telling you that your car isn't that rusty and making jokes, but I haven't seen anyone actually offer tips for working with rusty cars. If you can (foresight is hard, soak any bolts that look tough the night before with penetrating oil and you won't believe the difference it makes. Cheers
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Josh
I learned this from building computers, funnily enough, but I thought Marty would've known that adding copper to a system that also has aluminium exposed to a coolant solution will introduce an effect called galvanic corrosion, which will eat away at the aluminium quite rapidly. That's why copper isn't typically used in automotive applications.
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I learned this from building computers, funnily enough, but I thought Marty would've known that adding copper to a system that also has aluminium exposed to a coolant solution will introduce an effect called galvanic corrosion, which will eat away at the aluminium quite rapidly. That's why copper isn't typically used in automotive applications.
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Riho
Government: We need to put salt on the roads
Everyone: Why? Please don't, it doesn't even do anything good, it just destroys the road, the cars and the environment.
Government: If we don't do it, morons with no driving skills might have a small scare. It's a small price to pay. Also the salt company lobbyists gave us a bit of a bribe.
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Government: We need to put salt on the roads
Everyone: Why? Please don't, it doesn't even do anything good, it just destroys the road, the cars and the environment.
Government: If we don't do it, morons with no driving skills might have a small scare. It's a small price to pay. Also the salt company lobbyists gave us a bit of a bribe.
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MasterChief
Cant understand why he didnt put that small inter cooler into the factory location, its feed cold air from the right side scoop. Its about the same size as the inter cooler he fitted to the front. More work for no reward. Id you really want a big inter cooler most people mount them in the boot.
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Cant understand why he didnt put that small inter cooler into the factory location, its feed cold air from the right side scoop. Its about the same size as the inter cooler he fitted to the front. More work for no reward. Id you really want a big inter cooler most people mount them in the boot.
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TheSigurdsson
21: 26 It's not that hard to work on this car. Stares into camera, will to live visibly draining away.
Kinda sums up my experiences with my 1990s Toyotas.
Would I own anything else? Nah, never gonna happen. My girls are worth the pain! . Honest, I mean it, I love them really!
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21: 26 It's not that hard to work on this car. Stares into camera, will to live visibly draining away.
Kinda sums up my experiences with my 1990s Toyotas.
Would I own anything else? Nah, never gonna happen. My girls are worth the pain! . Honest, I mean it, I love them really!
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todd
Hi Mighty car mods,
Im not sure where to send a message directly to you so i will wack it on here, could you guys make a video of diff gear ratios from real low 2. 9 to like 4. 11 on the same car to see if it makes a huge difference to acceleration without touching anything else.
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Hi Mighty car mods,
Im not sure where to send a message directly to you so i will wack it on here, could you guys make a video of diff gear ratios from real low 2. 9 to like 4. 11 on the same car to see if it makes a huge difference to acceleration without touching anything else.
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Kachel94
I love the diy advice guys but using copper pipe in a predominantly aluminium Waterloop is just utter insanity. Due to galvanic corrosion either your intercooler fins will clog with crap or one of the parts will just fail outright if you're unlucky enough. Just my 2 cents
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I love the diy advice guys but using copper pipe in a predominantly aluminium Waterloop is just utter insanity. Due to galvanic corrosion either your intercooler fins will clog with crap or one of the parts will just fail outright if you're unlucky enough. Just my 2 cents
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demonic477
this is the time you get your friend a case of his favorite beer or jerky whatever it is he loves no matter what it is. this is one of those cars that have had to many hands on it in some places and no hands on it were it was needed like all the rusted bolts.
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this is the time you get your friend a case of his favorite beer or jerky whatever it is he loves no matter what it is. this is one of those cars that have had to many hands on it in some places and no hands on it were it was needed like all the rusted bolts.
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