Dont Fall for this Car Battery Scam
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Date: 2019-05-28
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Comments and reviews: 9
Seb M
Hi Scotty, When someone is having trouble with their car, lets say someone has an automatic gearbox in their car that is starting to fail and will cost thousands to fix. You tell them its not worth fixing and just get ride of the car. In my opinion that is just passing the problem on to someone else, depending on how honest the person selling the car is, the buyer may not get told the gearbox is stuffed and the cycle starts over. I know there are alot of people like me, when I buy a second hand car I know the risks that it may not last so I will have to spend more money to get it right. I bought a 30yr old Holden Commodore with 396000klm on the clock (the model with the Nissan engine and gearbox) for 500 that I got a good few years out of but eventually the automatic gearbox started sticking in one gear and eventually lost all its gears. The cheapest rebuilt box I could get was 2500. (absolutely ridiculous ) But because it was a car I was keeping there was no question I had to spend the money. Apart from that I think your videos are awesome and love watching them. Thanks Scotty.
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Hi Scotty, When someone is having trouble with their car, lets say someone has an automatic gearbox in their car that is starting to fail and will cost thousands to fix. You tell them its not worth fixing and just get ride of the car. In my opinion that is just passing the problem on to someone else, depending on how honest the person selling the car is, the buyer may not get told the gearbox is stuffed and the cycle starts over. I know there are alot of people like me, when I buy a second hand car I know the risks that it may not last so I will have to spend more money to get it right. I bought a 30yr old Holden Commodore with 396000klm on the clock (the model with the Nissan engine and gearbox) for 500 that I got a good few years out of but eventually the automatic gearbox started sticking in one gear and eventually lost all its gears. The cheapest rebuilt box I could get was 2500. (absolutely ridiculous ) But because it was a car I was keeping there was no question I had to spend the money. Apart from that I think your videos are awesome and love watching them. Thanks Scotty.
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Lou Fazio
What is needed to be mentioned here about the battery tester is (from read-say): .these electronic battery testers use a correlation formula to estimate the CCA capacity based on capacitance testing by sending high frequency signals to the battery. These electronic testers, including the expensive ones, work fine on healthy batteries, but their accuracy falls off on dying batteries. The only truly reliable way to test car batteries is with a heavy, carbon pile, load tester. Batteries are supposed to be load tested at 1/2 the CCA rating of the battery for 15 seconds. Those light load testers that only load up to 100 A or 125 A dont really stress the battery enough to reliably weed out dying batteries. The light load testers work fine for healthy batteries, but not batteries that are near the end of live. StevieQ, Amazon reviewApparently, surface charge also skews results, and it is recommended to deplete that charge by using a load from the headlights. Still, for the results they give with their speed and portability, they seem to be very reasonable.
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What is needed to be mentioned here about the battery tester is (from read-say): .these electronic battery testers use a correlation formula to estimate the CCA capacity based on capacitance testing by sending high frequency signals to the battery. These electronic testers, including the expensive ones, work fine on healthy batteries, but their accuracy falls off on dying batteries. The only truly reliable way to test car batteries is with a heavy, carbon pile, load tester. Batteries are supposed to be load tested at 1/2 the CCA rating of the battery for 15 seconds. Those light load testers that only load up to 100 A or 125 A dont really stress the battery enough to reliably weed out dying batteries. The light load testers work fine for healthy batteries, but not batteries that are near the end of live. StevieQ, Amazon reviewApparently, surface charge also skews results, and it is recommended to deplete that charge by using a load from the headlights. Still, for the results they give with their speed and portability, they seem to be very reasonable.
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Ray Brensike
I cant trust auto shops for testing batteries. I had a new battery from Wall Mart fail to start whenever I let the van sit for 2 days, so I charged it and drove to the auto parts store so they could tell me whether it is good or bad. They hook up their diagnostic tool and tell me its bad. I ask them whats wrong with it? Why is it bad? Is it holding a charge or not? They say, All I can tell you is our machine says that it is bad. So I get another opinion for another auto parts store, and they say the same thing. When I get to Wall Mart, the battery tests good, and they wont refund me, or get me another one. Turns out that I had a parasitic draw that I did not know about. The moral of the story is, Dont trust auto parts stores and their diagnostic battery testing. Unless you can get someone to put on a tool that says how many volts it has, and see if it drops. That is the only way I know, where you can tell if it holds a charge or not. Even if the battery is dead, it does not mean it is a bad battery. Maybe it just needed a charge.
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I cant trust auto shops for testing batteries. I had a new battery from Wall Mart fail to start whenever I let the van sit for 2 days, so I charged it and drove to the auto parts store so they could tell me whether it is good or bad. They hook up their diagnostic tool and tell me its bad. I ask them whats wrong with it? Why is it bad? Is it holding a charge or not? They say, All I can tell you is our machine says that it is bad. So I get another opinion for another auto parts store, and they say the same thing. When I get to Wall Mart, the battery tests good, and they wont refund me, or get me another one. Turns out that I had a parasitic draw that I did not know about. The moral of the story is, Dont trust auto parts stores and their diagnostic battery testing. Unless you can get someone to put on a tool that says how many volts it has, and see if it drops. That is the only way I know, where you can tell if it holds a charge or not. Even if the battery is dead, it does not mean it is a bad battery. Maybe it just needed a charge.
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Steve Raymond
Wow. Lets get a few things straight. Only a fully charged battery can be accurately tested. Most parts stores batt. chargers are smart chargers and wont complete a cycle if it senses the batt. is bad. 3-4 years is the average life of a battery. I am a retired Mechanic who now works at a Parts store, the testers we use can be wrong sometimes. Most batteries are now made in Mexico and dont last like the older USA made ones. If your having constant battery problems, make sure you actually bought one the car required. Some cars have large electrical loads and require a battery with a large reserve. Check price and CCA. Cheaper batteries have less CCA. Keep your battery clean along with your terminals. If your vehicle sits a lot, get a battery tender. A battery that is allowed to be discharged for long periods of time will not last long. There is no such thing as a reconditioned battery Love your vids Scotty
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Wow. Lets get a few things straight. Only a fully charged battery can be accurately tested. Most parts stores batt. chargers are smart chargers and wont complete a cycle if it senses the batt. is bad. 3-4 years is the average life of a battery. I am a retired Mechanic who now works at a Parts store, the testers we use can be wrong sometimes. Most batteries are now made in Mexico and dont last like the older USA made ones. If your having constant battery problems, make sure you actually bought one the car required. Some cars have large electrical loads and require a battery with a large reserve. Check price and CCA. Cheaper batteries have less CCA. Keep your battery clean along with your terminals. If your vehicle sits a lot, get a battery tender. A battery that is allowed to be discharged for long periods of time will not last long. There is no such thing as a reconditioned battery Love your vids Scotty
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Kolin Stallman
Selling it and buying another vehicle doesnt help anything unless you know you are selling to someone who is willing to fix it and aware of all issues. Dont want want to just pass shitty or unsafe vehicle down the line. Eventually it could end up being driven buy some poor single parent, senior or new driver and it could put them in debt or hurt someone. There are many running, driving, steering like new small cars for between 1000-2000 canadian. So if your vehicle is making noise, running rough, shifting bad, full of rust, vibrating and its high mileage and over 10 years just scrap it or donate it to the kidney people. We have too many people driving old dangerous shitboxes with no functioning emission controls as is. I feel we need to phase out these old cars and especially trucks and there should be some sort of subsidy to help with this based off of income.
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Selling it and buying another vehicle doesnt help anything unless you know you are selling to someone who is willing to fix it and aware of all issues. Dont want want to just pass shitty or unsafe vehicle down the line. Eventually it could end up being driven buy some poor single parent, senior or new driver and it could put them in debt or hurt someone. There are many running, driving, steering like new small cars for between 1000-2000 canadian. So if your vehicle is making noise, running rough, shifting bad, full of rust, vibrating and its high mileage and over 10 years just scrap it or donate it to the kidney people. We have too many people driving old dangerous shitboxes with no functioning emission controls as is. I feel we need to phase out these old cars and especially trucks and there should be some sort of subsidy to help with this based off of income.
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Joe Ramirez
Scotty I have a 2000 Acura Integra with 1. 8 engine not a vtech, well it died on me while stopped on hwy the teeth broke off didnt hurt the valves but I believe the mechanic missed it by a tooth, starts runs but hesitates and in lower rpms it misses or feels like it tugs till I get up pass 3000 rpms but engine light starts blinking and it wants to die the timing setting changed a lot from before the belt broke. Going to check in a couple of days, and set pully to TDC check the upper pully lines. Or do you think its something else, I changed the plugs did 02 sensor and changed the catalytic converter. It is miss firing do to a tooth being off I believe. Please answer if you can I watch everything you put out on utube thank you very much. Joe Ramirez. Its a manual transmission.
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Scotty I have a 2000 Acura Integra with 1. 8 engine not a vtech, well it died on me while stopped on hwy the teeth broke off didnt hurt the valves but I believe the mechanic missed it by a tooth, starts runs but hesitates and in lower rpms it misses or feels like it tugs till I get up pass 3000 rpms but engine light starts blinking and it wants to die the timing setting changed a lot from before the belt broke. Going to check in a couple of days, and set pully to TDC check the upper pully lines. Or do you think its something else, I changed the plugs did 02 sensor and changed the catalytic converter. It is miss firing do to a tooth being off I believe. Please answer if you can I watch everything you put out on utube thank you very much. Joe Ramirez. Its a manual transmission.
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Robert Rushton
Ahhh the old weak battery scam, thank you for posting this my friend but a bit too late for me. We got hit by our local Kia stealership for this scam last month, on a four year old battery. All of what you said is how the thieving bastards lead us into it, and of course we trusted them. We took it in for a no start condition, and of course it was just a weak battery, not covered by warranty oh well Went to start the car after paying and it wouldnt start again. Oops So turns out it was the warranty covered starter after all, but hey we got anew battery out of it right? Its all a joke to them, if you trust them you are a fool. Thanks Scotty for the heads up on that load tester, Im sure I can rely on it for the next time
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Ahhh the old weak battery scam, thank you for posting this my friend but a bit too late for me. We got hit by our local Kia stealership for this scam last month, on a four year old battery. All of what you said is how the thieving bastards lead us into it, and of course we trusted them. We took it in for a no start condition, and of course it was just a weak battery, not covered by warranty oh well Went to start the car after paying and it wouldnt start again. Oops So turns out it was the warranty covered starter after all, but hey we got anew battery out of it right? Its all a joke to them, if you trust them you are a fool. Thanks Scotty for the heads up on that load tester, Im sure I can rely on it for the next time
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Harvey H
Replaced my Die-Hard battery the other year and was told the will no longer offer a pro-rated battery warranty. Ill be buying my next battery at Costco. Im going off onto a different tangent, hold on. Some months ago I went to my local Sears and bought me a set of Craftsman 1/2 impact sockets. They were more expensive than other made in China sets I saw around but bought them. Got home and then noticed that these tools too were made in China. Returned them soon afterwards. Youll be hard pressed to find made in USA tools there. My Flex-Slacks II pants Ive been getting at Sears has been discontinued. Three basic staples Ive been going to Sears for is no longer available. No wonder Sears is going out of business.
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Replaced my Die-Hard battery the other year and was told the will no longer offer a pro-rated battery warranty. Ill be buying my next battery at Costco. Im going off onto a different tangent, hold on. Some months ago I went to my local Sears and bought me a set of Craftsman 1/2 impact sockets. They were more expensive than other made in China sets I saw around but bought them. Got home and then noticed that these tools too were made in China. Returned them soon afterwards. Youll be hard pressed to find made in USA tools there. My Flex-Slacks II pants Ive been getting at Sears has been discontinued. Three basic staples Ive been going to Sears for is no longer available. No wonder Sears is going out of business.
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Alex Mitchell
Scotty; Ive lived in Canada for 60 years and in some of the snowiest places imaginable, (currently in Ottawa where its blowing a blizzard - as usual) Ive had front drive cars, AWD cars, (including 2 Subarus) and rear wheel drive cars, (currently a Crown Victoria. I prefer rear wheel drive in the snow. If you start to lose grip on RWD, you know it right away and can easily correct it. Front wheel drive may give better traction, but breaks loose quite suddenly if traction is lost. As for AWD? Well, my feeling is that it provides a false sense of security and - as the old saying goes - such cars let you get stuck deeper and further from home.
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Scotty; Ive lived in Canada for 60 years and in some of the snowiest places imaginable, (currently in Ottawa where its blowing a blizzard - as usual) Ive had front drive cars, AWD cars, (including 2 Subarus) and rear wheel drive cars, (currently a Crown Victoria. I prefer rear wheel drive in the snow. If you start to lose grip on RWD, you know it right away and can easily correct it. Front wheel drive may give better traction, but breaks loose quite suddenly if traction is lost. As for AWD? Well, my feeling is that it provides a false sense of security and - as the old saying goes - such cars let you get stuck deeper and further from home.
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