Pacific Surfliner: Train Talk Ep. 19 - CoasterFan2105
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Date: 2022-05-12
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NozomuYume
The biggest problem with the Coast Daylight idea is that it would run at almost exactly the same time as the Coast Starlight -- i. e. it would be rather redundant. You'd have to do some major track improvements to improve speed to make a second Socal -> Bay Area daytime trip -- by which time hopefully CHSR would be up and running. In that eventuality the only cities that would really benefit heavily from the Coast Daylight would be Salinas and Paso Robles.
A -huge- win would be an economy sleeper from SF -> San Diego running at night with limited to no food service (maybe include vending machines, and simple berths (with roomettes maybe as a business-class upgrade.
There's a bus company called Cabin which is doing the berth solution that started last year, with express service between SF and Santa Monica. I tried it though and, well, it's a -BUS-. The swaying and braking of the bus made me wake up in terror at night when going through construction zones and ESPECIALLY over Pacheco pass when the bus tried to pass semi trucks on curves. This would not have been a problem if there were a California night train. =(
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The biggest problem with the Coast Daylight idea is that it would run at almost exactly the same time as the Coast Starlight -- i. e. it would be rather redundant. You'd have to do some major track improvements to improve speed to make a second Socal -> Bay Area daytime trip -- by which time hopefully CHSR would be up and running. In that eventuality the only cities that would really benefit heavily from the Coast Daylight would be Salinas and Paso Robles.
A -huge- win would be an economy sleeper from SF -> San Diego running at night with limited to no food service (maybe include vending machines, and simple berths (with roomettes maybe as a business-class upgrade.
There's a bus company called Cabin which is doing the berth solution that started last year, with express service between SF and Santa Monica. I tried it though and, well, it's a -BUS-. The swaying and braking of the bus made me wake up in terror at night when going through construction zones and ESPECIALLY over Pacheco pass when the bus tried to pass semi trucks on curves. This would not have been a problem if there were a California night train. =(
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Christopher
Great video of my most favorite Amtrak route-The Pacific Surfliner. I travel on the Pacific Surfliner between San Diego, Los Angeles & Oxnard when I-m home in the San Diego area for visits up to a week.
I alternate my visits between Los Angeles & Oxnard. My next visit home, to the San Diego area, I will be visiting Los Angeles next when I ride the Pacific Surfliner. Last year I rode to Oxnard, CA on 5/27/2017 for a visit & since that day I have been traveling on the Pacific Surfliner. Best travel choice I ever made, don-t have to fight traffic and deal with those that slow down for the sake of slowing down when there is no construction zone, no accident, no wet and/or foggy weather.
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Great video of my most favorite Amtrak route-The Pacific Surfliner. I travel on the Pacific Surfliner between San Diego, Los Angeles & Oxnard when I-m home in the San Diego area for visits up to a week.
I alternate my visits between Los Angeles & Oxnard. My next visit home, to the San Diego area, I will be visiting Los Angeles next when I ride the Pacific Surfliner. Last year I rode to Oxnard, CA on 5/27/2017 for a visit & since that day I have been traveling on the Pacific Surfliner. Best travel choice I ever made, don-t have to fight traffic and deal with those that slow down for the sake of slowing down when there is no construction zone, no accident, no wet and/or foggy weather.
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TrainsForDayz2398
Yes! Another one of my favorite railway lines makes a Train Talk appearance! I love it! Yeah the San Dieggans was a very interesting train with F40PHs and Amfleet cars and the F59s later arriving, but the Surfliner is really the best one! I really love the F59PHIs it's too bad their going to be replaced soon with the SC-44 chargers and I wish they could stay longer, but I can't make that choice unfortunately. But another great video! Also if the chargers are replacing the intercity trains both the F59s and P42s does that mean the P42s will continue to be used on long-distance service more or are they being replaced too. +CoasterFan2105
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Yes! Another one of my favorite railway lines makes a Train Talk appearance! I love it! Yeah the San Dieggans was a very interesting train with F40PHs and Amfleet cars and the F59s later arriving, but the Surfliner is really the best one! I really love the F59PHIs it's too bad their going to be replaced soon with the SC-44 chargers and I wish they could stay longer, but I can't make that choice unfortunately. But another great video! Also if the chargers are replacing the intercity trains both the F59s and P42s does that mean the P42s will continue to be used on long-distance service more or are they being replaced too. +CoasterFan2105
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Norton
the single level coach surf liner trains are used when classes are using the surf liner trains for taking field trips to zoos or museums. This is for a safety reason, I guess, especially when kindergartners are taking the train for field trip to the zoo, or at least that is what I noticed one time when I was taking a surf liner train to Santa Barbara. that train was using single coaches instead of the double Decker surf liner coaches and there were kindergartners taking that train to Santa Barbara. they were probably going to zoo in Santa Barbara.
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the single level coach surf liner trains are used when classes are using the surf liner trains for taking field trips to zoos or museums. This is for a safety reason, I guess, especially when kindergartners are taking the train for field trip to the zoo, or at least that is what I noticed one time when I was taking a surf liner train to Santa Barbara. that train was using single coaches instead of the double Decker surf liner coaches and there were kindergartners taking that train to Santa Barbara. they were probably going to zoo in Santa Barbara.
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Chicago
The Pacific Surfliner could be a great success for Amtrak especially with the new SC-44-s coming in. The best way Amtrak can increase ridership on this route is faster travel time. Brightline is doing great and it-s top speed hasn-t even been reached so if Amtrak makes a move here upgrade the rails because the P42 is getting old and the SC-44 will get older and we will have faster locomotives. This is the beginning of a new high speed route that will hopefully be better than that Acela thing.
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The Pacific Surfliner could be a great success for Amtrak especially with the new SC-44-s coming in. The best way Amtrak can increase ridership on this route is faster travel time. Brightline is doing great and it-s top speed hasn-t even been reached so if Amtrak makes a move here upgrade the rails because the P42 is getting old and the SC-44 will get older and we will have faster locomotives. This is the beginning of a new high speed route that will hopefully be better than that Acela thing.
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SouthCalifas619
I recently found out before work on the san diego trolley was started, there was a proposition to make a commuter train between downtown san diego and san ysidro, which i wish wouldve been the choice they made, but anyway, i think the perfect place for the Amtrak yard in san diego would either be national city in between the 2 bnsf yards or further south in chula vista following the old coronado line tracks
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I recently found out before work on the san diego trolley was started, there was a proposition to make a commuter train between downtown san diego and san ysidro, which i wish wouldve been the choice they made, but anyway, i think the perfect place for the Amtrak yard in san diego would either be national city in between the 2 bnsf yards or further south in chula vista following the old coronado line tracks
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Norton
Did you know that the surfliner trains have reconfigurated the direction that the locomotive and the cab cars run. When the surfliner began service, the locomotives pulled the trains towards Los Angeles union station, but sometime in 2003 or 2004, the surfliner trains turned around. The surfliner trains now push towards Los Angeles union station and pull towards San Diego, Santa Barbara, and San Luis Obispo.
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Did you know that the surfliner trains have reconfigurated the direction that the locomotive and the cab cars run. When the surfliner began service, the locomotives pulled the trains towards Los Angeles union station, but sometime in 2003 or 2004, the surfliner trains turned around. The surfliner trains now push towards Los Angeles union station and pull towards San Diego, Santa Barbara, and San Luis Obispo.
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LegalizeBuckets
The surfliner is nice, but it's always expensive. Now I'm not some cheap person, but I don't think it's worth spending $115 both ways from LA to San Diego for 2 people (In my opinion. Why is it pricier than the commuter trains I would sometimes take and are like 40-50% cheaper?
Great video btw.
p. s. why are they building a san diego yard?
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The surfliner is nice, but it's always expensive. Now I'm not some cheap person, but I don't think it's worth spending $115 both ways from LA to San Diego for 2 people (In my opinion. Why is it pricier than the commuter trains I would sometimes take and are like 40-50% cheaper?
Great video btw.
p. s. why are they building a san diego yard?
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Brian
It-s a shame those Chargers won-t be able to stretch their legs on the Surfliner route. There aren-t even any possibilities for curve straightening either, since The whole route is between the ocean and Pacific Coast Highway. I spend a lot of time in Santa Barbara and it-s a shame the service will never have high-speed potential.
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It-s a shame those Chargers won-t be able to stretch their legs on the Surfliner route. There aren-t even any possibilities for curve straightening either, since The whole route is between the ocean and Pacific Coast Highway. I spend a lot of time in Santa Barbara and it-s a shame the service will never have high-speed potential.
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Micha-
Thanks Mike. Great episode of Train Talks. You are a perfect story teller. When the story teller talk also shows rail tracks, contemporary and old train sets, railroads bridges and all kind of rail installations the video is always great. Please make more talk episodes of this quality.
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Thanks Mike. Great episode of Train Talks. You are a perfect story teller. When the story teller talk also shows rail tracks, contemporary and old train sets, railroads bridges and all kind of rail installations the video is always great. Please make more talk episodes of this quality.
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