
Why This Bieber Backlash Is Ridiculous, Khashoggi Payoffs, Nipsey Hussle Update, & Brexit
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Date: 2019-11-01
Comments and reviews: 9
slydtsatmosman
I understand the woman not getting the Bieber joke. I had a co-worker who had just got her job after a miscarriage (we worked in a restaurant. Every time she saw a baby, she would run to the back break room & cry uncontrollably for a very long time, or, she would ask to hold the baby, walk around with it, and almost refuse to give it back to the mother. When the mother would force her to give up the baby (I once had to break up an almost tug-of-war, it was back to the break room, crying. She was also still discharging & was leaving her assigned post or tables without notice to deal with that concern. Her co-workers tried to be sympathetic and help her, but she refused any help and would yell at anybody who offered a kind word or something to help with the discharge. Soon, everyone became exasperated. After a week of this, she was fired. She tried to sue the restaurant, but was ruled against. The court stated although the company was callous in the way the employee was fired (my boss was not mr. sunshine by any means, work was disrupted & suffered because other employees and managers were constantly attending to her needs and not doing their jobs. The employee rejected professional counseling offered to her, instead choosing to go to work. The restaurant and court also understood she had financial obligations, but this thing took a lot out of her, and after all that, she returned to the hospital to take care of a ruptured ovary. So yeah, this joke can be triggering, but based on that instagram reaction, Guurl, seek counseling You still got issues.
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I understand the woman not getting the Bieber joke. I had a co-worker who had just got her job after a miscarriage (we worked in a restaurant. Every time she saw a baby, she would run to the back break room & cry uncontrollably for a very long time, or, she would ask to hold the baby, walk around with it, and almost refuse to give it back to the mother. When the mother would force her to give up the baby (I once had to break up an almost tug-of-war, it was back to the break room, crying. She was also still discharging & was leaving her assigned post or tables without notice to deal with that concern. Her co-workers tried to be sympathetic and help her, but she refused any help and would yell at anybody who offered a kind word or something to help with the discharge. Soon, everyone became exasperated. After a week of this, she was fired. She tried to sue the restaurant, but was ruled against. The court stated although the company was callous in the way the employee was fired (my boss was not mr. sunshine by any means, work was disrupted & suffered because other employees and managers were constantly attending to her needs and not doing their jobs. The employee rejected professional counseling offered to her, instead choosing to go to work. The restaurant and court also understood she had financial obligations, but this thing took a lot out of her, and after all that, she returned to the hospital to take care of a ruptured ovary. So yeah, this joke can be triggering, but based on that instagram reaction, Guurl, seek counseling You still got issues.
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The Over/UnderThinker
I think you're pretty entitled if you think that Justin Bieber can't make a joke about being pregnant because YOU had a miscarriage. It sucks for you that it happened, but you cannot expect all references to pregnancy, children, miscarriages etc to be removed from the world because you experienced a tragedy. There are therapists that specialize in helping couples through the pain of a miscarriage and are pretty good at it. If it bothered you that much, respectfully, that might be a sign you might need some serious professional help and if it is covered by your insurance, there is no reason not to at least schedule a consultation. Maybe it will never feel 100% like it never happened, but maybe it shouldn't. it's a bad thing, but maybe you can deal with it a little better. In general, if you find that you are traumatized personally by any dumb thing a celebrity does on twitter, that might be a good sign that maybe you might give some thought if you need to talk to someone trained about it. Because people will continue to do dumb things, so better to build the skills to deal with it when it happens then to yell at Justin Bieber online.
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I think you're pretty entitled if you think that Justin Bieber can't make a joke about being pregnant because YOU had a miscarriage. It sucks for you that it happened, but you cannot expect all references to pregnancy, children, miscarriages etc to be removed from the world because you experienced a tragedy. There are therapists that specialize in helping couples through the pain of a miscarriage and are pretty good at it. If it bothered you that much, respectfully, that might be a sign you might need some serious professional help and if it is covered by your insurance, there is no reason not to at least schedule a consultation. Maybe it will never feel 100% like it never happened, but maybe it shouldn't. it's a bad thing, but maybe you can deal with it a little better. In general, if you find that you are traumatized personally by any dumb thing a celebrity does on twitter, that might be a good sign that maybe you might give some thought if you need to talk to someone trained about it. Because people will continue to do dumb things, so better to build the skills to deal with it when it happens then to yell at Justin Bieber online.
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Alexis Adler
I struggled with infertility for 7 years, it's definitely a really hard part in life. I still don't like prego jokes but I don't believe in cancel culture. I think those who are upset are mostly upset because they're on hormones and their is a fair amount of emotional trauma going into it. People shouldn't demand the world cater to them, However I really agree with what Justin Bieber said it wasn't his intent and I think that's the main point of his apology, if you are offended it wasn't like he was trying to do that. Honestly I'm more frustrated with the outrage due to the outrage. I am seeing comments like infertility isn't that bad, and infertility is something you just get over, the world's already overpopulated, just adopt. And a lot of other uneducated things about the issue. And to me that has been more frustrating to see on this page and elseware then the actual joke. I think we should be able to sympathize with the trauma they're going through, I have always noticed that a majority of people who don't want kids seem to lack empathy towards those who do so I think that is causing even more drama.
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I struggled with infertility for 7 years, it's definitely a really hard part in life. I still don't like prego jokes but I don't believe in cancel culture. I think those who are upset are mostly upset because they're on hormones and their is a fair amount of emotional trauma going into it. People shouldn't demand the world cater to them, However I really agree with what Justin Bieber said it wasn't his intent and I think that's the main point of his apology, if you are offended it wasn't like he was trying to do that. Honestly I'm more frustrated with the outrage due to the outrage. I am seeing comments like infertility isn't that bad, and infertility is something you just get over, the world's already overpopulated, just adopt. And a lot of other uneducated things about the issue. And to me that has been more frustrating to see on this page and elseware then the actual joke. I think we should be able to sympathize with the trauma they're going through, I have always noticed that a majority of people who don't want kids seem to lack empathy towards those who do so I think that is causing even more drama.
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mademoisellesss
Listen, I feel for women who have miscarriages, I really do. My grandmother had 3 stillborn babies out of her 9 children, and my mom held her first child in her arms knowing he wouldn't survive the first 24 hours of his life. But the guilt surrounding pregnancy is crazy, like you complain for one minute that you're uncomfortable or tired and the whole world jumps down your throat telling you to be grateful for being pregnant at all because of how many people can't get pregnant. It's damaging, and frankly keep your issues and traumas to yourself. My mom struggled for 12 years to get pregnant with several miscarriages and her first child didn't even live a day, and I've never heard her begrudge a woman for complaining about discomfort, or even for complaining about her kids once in a while. There are literally women who don't want to complain and make others feel bad who then end up in the hospital because they SHOULD have complained. People joke about being pregnant, getting engaged, all sorts of stuff, some people need to learn to take a joke.
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Listen, I feel for women who have miscarriages, I really do. My grandmother had 3 stillborn babies out of her 9 children, and my mom held her first child in her arms knowing he wouldn't survive the first 24 hours of his life. But the guilt surrounding pregnancy is crazy, like you complain for one minute that you're uncomfortable or tired and the whole world jumps down your throat telling you to be grateful for being pregnant at all because of how many people can't get pregnant. It's damaging, and frankly keep your issues and traumas to yourself. My mom struggled for 12 years to get pregnant with several miscarriages and her first child didn't even live a day, and I've never heard her begrudge a woman for complaining about discomfort, or even for complaining about her kids once in a while. There are literally women who don't want to complain and make others feel bad who then end up in the hospital because they SHOULD have complained. People joke about being pregnant, getting engaged, all sorts of stuff, some people need to learn to take a joke.
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Brandon Hall
Bieber isn't funny. I'm not offended, but his joke isn't funny to me. Our first son was stillborn and I sympathize with anyone that's been through that kind of loss. It's something no one can understand until you go through it. It's been 3 years and my life still isn't back on track. In fact I doubt there's any track to be on anymore. I don't expect anyone to understand that. So he didn't joke about miscarriage or stillbirth. But you see things like ultrasounds in a different light so I don't blame anyone for being offended. I truly hope no one goes through that loss, but that's not life. It happens. Much more than you may think and few talk about it. So i feel for those offended. I ask the trolls calling people weak or whatever about being offended to stop and truly think. I know they can't understand until it happens but they can still use empathy. Just think first that's all. Think beebs.
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Bieber isn't funny. I'm not offended, but his joke isn't funny to me. Our first son was stillborn and I sympathize with anyone that's been through that kind of loss. It's something no one can understand until you go through it. It's been 3 years and my life still isn't back on track. In fact I doubt there's any track to be on anymore. I don't expect anyone to understand that. So he didn't joke about miscarriage or stillbirth. But you see things like ultrasounds in a different light so I don't blame anyone for being offended. I truly hope no one goes through that loss, but that's not life. It happens. Much more than you may think and few talk about it. So i feel for those offended. I ask the trolls calling people weak or whatever about being offended to stop and truly think. I know they can't understand until it happens but they can still use empathy. Just think first that's all. Think beebs.
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liveloveread
I personally am not offended by the joke, but he did need to apologize and Phil you might feel differently if your two beautiful boys never opened their eyes when they were born because miscarriage and stillbirth can lead to PTSD. (Also saying you know someone whos suffered through this is akin to saying you cant be racist because you have a Black friend. Lol. Dont) You dont see a lot of people making jokes about veterans on April fools, so why do women always get told to shut up and stop being butt hurt. You recently covered maternal mortality in one of your morning shows, I recommend you look at the other side and see just how bad our infant mortality rates are and then possibly that might change your perspective a bit.
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I personally am not offended by the joke, but he did need to apologize and Phil you might feel differently if your two beautiful boys never opened their eyes when they were born because miscarriage and stillbirth can lead to PTSD. (Also saying you know someone whos suffered through this is akin to saying you cant be racist because you have a Black friend. Lol. Dont) You dont see a lot of people making jokes about veterans on April fools, so why do women always get told to shut up and stop being butt hurt. You recently covered maternal mortality in one of your morning shows, I recommend you look at the other side and see just how bad our infant mortality rates are and then possibly that might change your perspective a bit.
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Nikki Welch
Sorry for the delayed reaction but I needed a little time to come up with the right words. I think the reason why an April fool's joke of being pregnant is so sensitive it's because after somebody announces they are pregnant there is two outcomes. New life born or a loss needed to be grieved. Having an end of pregnancy, whether it be by choice or by nature, is an intensely emotional experience. On some small and still sensitive way they are making a joke of an end of pregnancy. For reference yes I have had a miscarriage. No I wasn't extremely offended. However it does feel like something that I would prefer not to be joked about.
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Sorry for the delayed reaction but I needed a little time to come up with the right words. I think the reason why an April fool's joke of being pregnant is so sensitive it's because after somebody announces they are pregnant there is two outcomes. New life born or a loss needed to be grieved. Having an end of pregnancy, whether it be by choice or by nature, is an intensely emotional experience. On some small and still sensitive way they are making a joke of an end of pregnancy. For reference yes I have had a miscarriage. No I wasn't extremely offended. However it does feel like something that I would prefer not to be joked about.
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Rachel M
Having had multiple miscarriage s I don't find it funny but am not offended. But I do get mad at the idea that people not trying can and do get pregnant and carry their babies to terms and others who would or are great parents lose their babies for no reason or fault of their own. So not my humor and is not funny now that I have had multiple miscarriages. But he is a troller so and I don't care what he does. But I will say if I was having trouble getting pregnant I might feel differently and when I was in the darkness of the worst of my miscarriages I might have felt differently.
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Having had multiple miscarriage s I don't find it funny but am not offended. But I do get mad at the idea that people not trying can and do get pregnant and carry their babies to terms and others who would or are great parents lose their babies for no reason or fault of their own. So not my humor and is not funny now that I have had multiple miscarriages. But he is a troller so and I don't care what he does. But I will say if I was having trouble getting pregnant I might feel differently and when I was in the darkness of the worst of my miscarriages I might have felt differently.
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Kira Lowman
The Justin Bieber issue is offensiveAs someone who can't have her own children, it makes me feel like such a positive and wonderful moment is being made a mockery of. An occasion many people dream about and wish so badly to happen is being made out to be not a big deal by people who joke about it. It's not funny to people who would give anything to have a child, to see other people taking it as a given and taking such a beautiful moment for granted to the point that that they can joke about it, and it's a moment in life too many will never get. It is rude, and insensitive.
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The Justin Bieber issue is offensiveAs someone who can't have her own children, it makes me feel like such a positive and wonderful moment is being made a mockery of. An occasion many people dream about and wish so badly to happen is being made out to be not a big deal by people who joke about it. It's not funny to people who would give anything to have a child, to see other people taking it as a given and taking such a beautiful moment for granted to the point that that they can joke about it, and it's a moment in life too many will never get. It is rude, and insensitive.
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