HVAC Internet Of Things - iiot
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Date: 2023-11-17
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Rodel
The HVAC industry should go beyond HVAC IOT, IOT alone depends on the people who will analize the data and depends on the interpretation of the service personnel. HVAC Industry should push forward to adapt HVAC AI, true energy efficiency can only be achieved by real time AI analysis, adapting to the real environmental conditions. Intelligent Sensor should be installed. Seamless (AI-lead) User Inteface that provides and guides users (non-technical) to do optimization of the operation and troubleshooting of equipment using only the display information on the user interface. With HVAC AI, no equipment will operate or to start if theres no compliance to the right conditions to start. AI will identify inadequacy to the installation and the environment prior to startup or operation. AI will also identify the right time to do the maintenance AI and intelligent sensors will monitoring the compressor runtime, fan motor runtime, air quality, etc. This will optimize the service life of the equipment and also conduct maintenance when only needed. Frequent maintenance (forthnightly, monthly, quarterly, semi-annual or annual) will no longer applicable, AI will trigger the call for service maintenance based on the real time actual runtime readings of the sensors. (Legacy) Service Maintenance contracts will not be applicable and manufacturers should move to this new service platform. Also the warranty voidance based on enduser misuse or wrong installation will be a thing of the past since AI will not allow improper operation of the equipment. Hopefully the future of HVAC AI is near, regulations should start the changes and for to adapt this technology, I have sold, installed, operated, maintained HVAC equipment with AI, and this is the future of HVAC it greatly change the performance and the efficiency in holistic approach. Thank you for reading, hope this help!
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The HVAC industry should go beyond HVAC IOT, IOT alone depends on the people who will analize the data and depends on the interpretation of the service personnel. HVAC Industry should push forward to adapt HVAC AI, true energy efficiency can only be achieved by real time AI analysis, adapting to the real environmental conditions. Intelligent Sensor should be installed. Seamless (AI-lead) User Inteface that provides and guides users (non-technical) to do optimization of the operation and troubleshooting of equipment using only the display information on the user interface. With HVAC AI, no equipment will operate or to start if theres no compliance to the right conditions to start. AI will identify inadequacy to the installation and the environment prior to startup or operation. AI will also identify the right time to do the maintenance AI and intelligent sensors will monitoring the compressor runtime, fan motor runtime, air quality, etc. This will optimize the service life of the equipment and also conduct maintenance when only needed. Frequent maintenance (forthnightly, monthly, quarterly, semi-annual or annual) will no longer applicable, AI will trigger the call for service maintenance based on the real time actual runtime readings of the sensors. (Legacy) Service Maintenance contracts will not be applicable and manufacturers should move to this new service platform. Also the warranty voidance based on enduser misuse or wrong installation will be a thing of the past since AI will not allow improper operation of the equipment. Hopefully the future of HVAC AI is near, regulations should start the changes and for to adapt this technology, I have sold, installed, operated, maintained HVAC equipment with AI, and this is the future of HVAC it greatly change the performance and the efficiency in holistic approach. Thank you for reading, hope this help!
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education
I am a service technician and for the past 10 years I have serviced supermarkets in the United States with this type of equipment installed. The equipment I work on is not as smart as the ones in your video but they still were able to show, where the problem was and alert the managers. In some stores I was able to log in remotely from my house and look at the pressures and temperatures of all the cases. I had a rough idea what the problem was before heading out to the store.
I do like these setups because it makes the diagnosing very easy, however the circuit boards, software, touch screens, sensors, and valves are expensive. It seems that they are so expensive that only the large companies install them.
As a hobby I wanted to install a smaller version like this into my home, but I'm having a hard time finding equipment as a reasonable price. Danfoss has all the equipment but for tens of thousands of dollars.
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I am a service technician and for the past 10 years I have serviced supermarkets in the United States with this type of equipment installed. The equipment I work on is not as smart as the ones in your video but they still were able to show, where the problem was and alert the managers. In some stores I was able to log in remotely from my house and look at the pressures and temperatures of all the cases. I had a rough idea what the problem was before heading out to the store.
I do like these setups because it makes the diagnosing very easy, however the circuit boards, software, touch screens, sensors, and valves are expensive. It seems that they are so expensive that only the large companies install them.
As a hobby I wanted to install a smaller version like this into my home, but I'm having a hard time finding equipment as a reasonable price. Danfoss has all the equipment but for tens of thousands of dollars.
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Jean-Pierre
Coming from a HVAC Tech point of view, it would not be able to replace HVAC tech's. New technoligy do give falls readings and PC Boards and electronic components do not last as long as Mechanical components. Proven fault example: Had a error on a temp sensor faulty the other day ( Faulty sensor code ), Turned out to be gas problem and sensor showed on error code - Explain to me if you send out a person with tools and parts to replace sensor for example, and he is not trained field tech with experience - how will he pick up a diffrent fault and run back and forth to get the tools, More down time on equipment in my eyes. instead of sending a HVAC Tech fully kitted first time round. New Technoligy is nice but not trustworthy.
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Coming from a HVAC Tech point of view, it would not be able to replace HVAC tech's. New technoligy do give falls readings and PC Boards and electronic components do not last as long as Mechanical components. Proven fault example: Had a error on a temp sensor faulty the other day ( Faulty sensor code ), Turned out to be gas problem and sensor showed on error code - Explain to me if you send out a person with tools and parts to replace sensor for example, and he is not trained field tech with experience - how will he pick up a diffrent fault and run back and forth to get the tools, More down time on equipment in my eyes. instead of sending a HVAC Tech fully kitted first time round. New Technoligy is nice but not trustworthy.
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John
Having been in the repair industry for a lifetime I can say that this the future for new and high end users but not at all practical for existing structures, systems, or anything not newly built. More than half, ( a lot more ) of existing infrastructure is fighting every day to cope with the lack of practical engineering in the systems they now use. Companies do not build to last or function. They Engineer and build to make money, this is really a way for them to have more control, and more money. It will mean no generic parts, just high dollar OEM parts that keep failing because of flawed engineering, and lack of caring. Just make a buck. Sorry I can't be sold on IOT being anything more than a new twist to an old game.
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Having been in the repair industry for a lifetime I can say that this the future for new and high end users but not at all practical for existing structures, systems, or anything not newly built. More than half, ( a lot more ) of existing infrastructure is fighting every day to cope with the lack of practical engineering in the systems they now use. Companies do not build to last or function. They Engineer and build to make money, this is really a way for them to have more control, and more money. It will mean no generic parts, just high dollar OEM parts that keep failing because of flawed engineering, and lack of caring. Just make a buck. Sorry I can't be sold on IOT being anything more than a new twist to an old game.
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BtO
great video, nice graphics, thanks. I am a technician who deals daily with industrial cooling and heating (direct expansion, combustion, steam, etc. a few years ago, multimeter, thermometer, pressure gauge, screwdrivers were enough. today I need password (mandatory, computer, manufacturer's assistance to find the perfect setup, etc. for a production stopped (years ago) 1 hour was enough to restart. today it is very difficult to find that particular part. hours to reset the software and if the supplier is closed, bye. What is the impact on the environment if we need more tools, more rare metals, thousands of specific and non-interchangeable spare parts?
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great video, nice graphics, thanks. I am a technician who deals daily with industrial cooling and heating (direct expansion, combustion, steam, etc. a few years ago, multimeter, thermometer, pressure gauge, screwdrivers were enough. today I need password (mandatory, computer, manufacturer's assistance to find the perfect setup, etc. for a production stopped (years ago) 1 hour was enough to restart. today it is very difficult to find that particular part. hours to reset the software and if the supplier is closed, bye. What is the impact on the environment if we need more tools, more rare metals, thousands of specific and non-interchangeable spare parts?
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Sean
Mechanical valve or simple setup for HVAC last longer. It will cost more to cost of repairs(more complex device, more moving parts will cost more time to troubleshoot the problems, more simple setup ends up last longer) or maintenance. In fact, electronic devices have broken down more often than mechanical device. From a homeowner and HVAC technician perspective, I always recommend my clients to stay with simple setup (cost of maintaining and repair is lower. In the real world, the HVAC last around 10-20years. Many electronic sensors or controllers will break before that since they usually work in harsh environments.
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Mechanical valve or simple setup for HVAC last longer. It will cost more to cost of repairs(more complex device, more moving parts will cost more time to troubleshoot the problems, more simple setup ends up last longer) or maintenance. In fact, electronic devices have broken down more often than mechanical device. From a homeowner and HVAC technician perspective, I always recommend my clients to stay with simple setup (cost of maintaining and repair is lower. In the real world, the HVAC last around 10-20years. Many electronic sensors or controllers will break before that since they usually work in harsh environments.
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imark7777777
That's great but the technician is not coming unless somebody's paying a maintenance contract.
Just data logging alone increases usefulness.
Long moons ago we had ice cooling which was actually fairly efficient/ effective cold storage technique.
there is an interesting space of circulated liquid storage with both hot and cold containers, which is more efficient than electron energy storage at this point ( future battery technology prove me wrong.
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That's great but the technician is not coming unless somebody's paying a maintenance contract.
Just data logging alone increases usefulness.
Long moons ago we had ice cooling which was actually fairly efficient/ effective cold storage technique.
there is an interesting space of circulated liquid storage with both hot and cold containers, which is more efficient than electron energy storage at this point ( future battery technology prove me wrong.
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messaoud
Dear the engineering mindset
This is another awesome video, I would like to ask if it is possible to make a video on slip ring and how can we change it to a wireless slip ring with keeping the high voltage (400v) with a normal sleep ring and all what concern data and signal with the wireless one if it's possible
Thanks in advance!
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Dear the engineering mindset
This is another awesome video, I would like to ask if it is possible to make a video on slip ring and how can we change it to a wireless slip ring with keeping the high voltage (400v) with a normal sleep ring and all what concern data and signal with the wireless one if it's possible
Thanks in advance!
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JogBird
iiot alos allows hackers to take over and sabotage. in the consumer space, we already run into the issue when the service provider folds and the iiot device is useless becuase it lost the internet connectivity. best to avoid any critical home function that requires a serice provider
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iiot alos allows hackers to take over and sabotage. in the consumer space, we already run into the issue when the service provider folds and the iiot device is useless becuase it lost the internet connectivity. best to avoid any critical home function that requires a serice provider
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Tanmay
I've been learning IOT and embedded programming for a while now, and have always wanted to build a device like a ventilator (essentially something with real impact in our times. Any advice for a beginner to start a project like this?
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I've been learning IOT and embedded programming for a while now, and have always wanted to build a device like a ventilator (essentially something with real impact in our times. Any advice for a beginner to start a project like this?
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Lee
All of this is rising the cost of the equipment and then repair if and when there is a problem. As for self diagnostics that is true but I have seen way to many false issues. This will make the HVAC/R industry a high Tech job.
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All of this is rising the cost of the equipment and then repair if and when there is a problem. As for self diagnostics that is true but I have seen way to many false issues. This will make the HVAC/R industry a high Tech job.
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nhzxboi
I've been to many of these IOT seminars. Lot of glitz and even more sales push. These systems are not a panacea and can be quite troublesome when being over-reliant on the 'system'. Sounds great, doesn't work perfectly.
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I've been to many of these IOT seminars. Lot of glitz and even more sales push. These systems are not a panacea and can be quite troublesome when being over-reliant on the 'system'. Sounds great, doesn't work perfectly.
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Ghouse
Hi sir. this is s. ghouse from Andhra prasdesh india. i have one dought in inverte air conditioning system.
Inverter air conditioner compressor run by direct current or alternating current. pls sir answer me
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Hi sir. this is s. ghouse from Andhra prasdesh india. i have one dought in inverte air conditioning system.
Inverter air conditioner compressor run by direct current or alternating current. pls sir answer me
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Edson
I am afraid that each manufacturer will have their only iot interface in such a way that it would be impossible to have a Daikin equipment and a media monitoring system, for example
Does that fear justified?
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I am afraid that each manufacturer will have their only iot interface in such a way that it would be impossible to have a Daikin equipment and a media monitoring system, for example
Does that fear justified?
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ClaytonLivsey
IoT is bad for security reasons though. For every connection a device has, that's one more route a hacker can gain control through. Most cybersecurity guys I know have mechanical locks on their doors.
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IoT is bad for security reasons though. For every connection a device has, that's one more route a hacker can gain control through. Most cybersecurity guys I know have mechanical locks on their doors.
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Saleh
Really great work you guys doing providing all this knowledge to people. I hope you guys make a video on testing chillers microboard and all its electronic aspects. Trust this will help a lot of people!
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Really great work you guys doing providing all this knowledge to people. I hope you guys make a video on testing chillers microboard and all its electronic aspects. Trust this will help a lot of people!
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Cracker
Germany has the highest price of electricity in the world. Small wonder they need to come up with energy savings because the Paris accords have made them uncompetitive in the world.
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Germany has the highest price of electricity in the world. Small wonder they need to come up with energy savings because the Paris accords have made them uncompetitive in the world.
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See
My experience with commercial building building automation systems is that it is nearly impossible to find someone who knows anything about HVAC that can also program the system.
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My experience with commercial building building automation systems is that it is nearly impossible to find someone who knows anything about HVAC that can also program the system.
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coolbreeze
Toshiba VRF systems are among the best in this industry. the error codes lead you directly to the source of problem. I barely spent an hour solving such problems.
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Toshiba VRF systems are among the best in this industry. the error codes lead you directly to the source of problem. I barely spent an hour solving such problems.
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Mitali
Can you please bring out one video on piezoelectric resonance that is regarding crystal oscillators
Plsssssssss. Plsssss.
I wanna understand this. Plssss
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Can you please bring out one video on piezoelectric resonance that is regarding crystal oscillators
Plsssssssss. Plsssss.
I wanna understand this. Plssss
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TheEngineer
I always wonder what is the expected accuracy rate of AI predictions? How can I be sure that the predictions made by AI is accurate and I should act on it?
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I always wonder what is the expected accuracy rate of AI predictions? How can I be sure that the predictions made by AI is accurate and I should act on it?
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Michael
I am an IoT/wireless tech. Very excited about the future of the industry. Saw this coming for a while in HVAC/smart home. Thanks for the video and validation!
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I am an IoT/wireless tech. Very excited about the future of the industry. Saw this coming for a while in HVAC/smart home. Thanks for the video and validation!
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Ak
Thise video is very informative.
Please completely explain heat recovery vrf system
Like- outdoor inside mechanism,
Branch controller & indoor units
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Thise video is very informative.
Please completely explain heat recovery vrf system
Like- outdoor inside mechanism,
Branch controller & indoor units
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SRB
Excellent presentation! The level of system integration and predictive modeling made possible by IoT and Cloud is very exciting for the HVAC industry.
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Excellent presentation! The level of system integration and predictive modeling made possible by IoT and Cloud is very exciting for the HVAC industry.
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Jooles
Unfortunately I dont see building engineers being able to take over the job Of an HVAC tech. most Ive ran into barely understand their system
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Unfortunately I dont see building engineers being able to take over the job Of an HVAC tech. most Ive ran into barely understand their system
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Lwanga
This feels like it's going to create more trouble for the technician who is going to deal with all those sensors and software in a system
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This feels like it's going to create more trouble for the technician who is going to deal with all those sensors and software in a system
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Jack
I have installed systems like this. It was called a Novartis system. The bad thing is putting all your eggs in one basket.
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I have installed systems like this. It was called a Novartis system. The bad thing is putting all your eggs in one basket.
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Okokokok
Im currently 13 and wanting to know how to make circuits computers etc. I really need help in where to start off.
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Im currently 13 and wanting to know how to make circuits computers etc. I really need help in where to start off.
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GeoFry3
Lol AI/machine learning. Mostly marketing technobabble that is just rebranding PID controls which is old as dirt.
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Lol AI/machine learning. Mostly marketing technobabble that is just rebranding PID controls which is old as dirt.
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Cuni
You will mainly find these in critical buildings such as labs and hospitals. Not too common outside of that
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You will mainly find these in critical buildings such as labs and hospitals. Not too common outside of that
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