Why the International Date Line Looks So Stupid
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Even better to make it clear that the International Date Line did not exist until well into the late 19th century. For the situation prior to that, what this is actually talking about might better be referred to as.
-given the general consensus of various countries regarding what day it was, this line separating those different-day decisions-.
And while that is being explained, when discussing changes that were made, with by far the biggest example being the Philippines, when it is forces such as trade with huge countries close by, like China, then it should be pointed out that China was using a radically different calendar. Just over there, they knew the year to be far different, let alone the month or day.
7: 47 - It is absolutely bogus to declare that the 1884 International Meridian Conference did anything at all definitive which dictated a global standard to anyone. They simply had no authority to do that. Far less than half the countries even attended. Each country was perfectly free to do whatever they wanted. And they did. Saudi Arabia, for example, did not switch over until the 1970s. Nearly a full century later.
Here it also needs to be said that Chester Arthurs administration did not initiate this push. They agreed to it. The singular person who deserves to be mentioned here is Sandford Fleming, a Scot-born Canadian. And also the technology driving the need: the railroads. Prior to trains and telegraph lines, each city would set their own time to the height of the local sun. Once a physical connection was made between cities, it became clear that unifying local times within a particular region would be extremely helpful. So it was this need to invent Time Zones which drove the need to define the line where the day would be skipped back, as the means for completing the system of 24 time zones.
It would be great if one day a video is put together to tell the full story, not leaving out any key aspects.
It is refreshing to see this one make a huge step toward that direction.
Date: 2023-12-14
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-tyrannicpuppy
This just makes me even more curious why, in this modern age where we have globally synchronised atomic clocks keeping track of it all, we use time zones at all.
What would be the downside to having one global time zone (for the sake of simplicity say the current one based on GMT) and we all just know that say here in Australia we get up and go to work at 11 pm when the sun has just come up and leave work at 7 am. Similar to 'working night shift' but the sun would still be up while we do it.
There would be no need to convert a time zone to know when an event was going to occur for you locally. It's on at 12pm everywhere. Or to calculate the arrival/departure times based on your starting/ending destination and then all the local zones you pass through on the way. No need to move clocks back and forwards for daylight savings time. You just come to know the times that are locally relevant to you.
I get that there would be an adjustment period as people get over the association with say 11 pm being 'late' even if the sun is directly overhead. But wouldn't it be simpler overall? We'd still have the ante meridian where the day splits, but it just feels like it would be a simpler overall system. Why does 12 pm still have to be tied to when the sun is above my head in my region of the globe?
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This just makes me even more curious why, in this modern age where we have globally synchronised atomic clocks keeping track of it all, we use time zones at all.
What would be the downside to having one global time zone (for the sake of simplicity say the current one based on GMT) and we all just know that say here in Australia we get up and go to work at 11 pm when the sun has just come up and leave work at 7 am. Similar to 'working night shift' but the sun would still be up while we do it.
There would be no need to convert a time zone to know when an event was going to occur for you locally. It's on at 12pm everywhere. Or to calculate the arrival/departure times based on your starting/ending destination and then all the local zones you pass through on the way. No need to move clocks back and forwards for daylight savings time. You just come to know the times that are locally relevant to you.
I get that there would be an adjustment period as people get over the association with say 11 pm being 'late' even if the sun is directly overhead. But wouldn't it be simpler overall? We'd still have the ante meridian where the day splits, but it just feels like it would be a simpler overall system. Why does 12 pm still have to be tied to when the sun is above my head in my region of the globe?
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reallifelore
22: 03 No. Samoa was missing out on -one- business day every week: on Australia's and New Zealand's Monday as then on Samoa was Sunday. All other business days of Australia and New Zealand were also business days on Samoa: -
Day on AU&NZ - Day on Samoa-
Tuesday - Monday-
Wednesday - Tuesday-
Thursday - Wednesday-
Friday - Thursday-
These are four days which were business days on both area. -
You were misleading as ruled out Samoa's Friday and New Zealand's Monday and counted these as two days missing of five however these are days of different areas so can't be added to each other or you should have counted as two days missing out of ten because you counted the days independently for the two areas. -
(This is just one of the many false/misleading information in the video)
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22: 03 No. Samoa was missing out on -one- business day every week: on Australia's and New Zealand's Monday as then on Samoa was Sunday. All other business days of Australia and New Zealand were also business days on Samoa: -
Day on AU&NZ - Day on Samoa-
Tuesday - Monday-
Wednesday - Tuesday-
Thursday - Wednesday-
Friday - Thursday-
These are four days which were business days on both area. -
You were misleading as ruled out Samoa's Friday and New Zealand's Monday and counted these as two days missing of five however these are days of different areas so can't be added to each other or you should have counted as two days missing out of ten because you counted the days independently for the two areas. -
(This is just one of the many false/misleading information in the video)
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reallifelore
Hi RealLifeLore, can you please for the love God, fix the annoying bug on Fire Tv Nebula app. Once I rewind or forward, the seekbar does not move as per the time the video is playing. So the next time I rewind or forward it will do that from the old time and not from the current video time. It is very very annoying, especially for a personn who wants to do that frequently. I signed up for Nebula, but unable to use it just for this reason. You spend so much money and put so much energy to build explicit content, but all is waste if the player is not playing well. Fyi, I already provided this feedback months before on Fire TV app review, but nothing was done until now.
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Hi RealLifeLore, can you please for the love God, fix the annoying bug on Fire Tv Nebula app. Once I rewind or forward, the seekbar does not move as per the time the video is playing. So the next time I rewind or forward it will do that from the old time and not from the current video time. It is very very annoying, especially for a personn who wants to do that frequently. I signed up for Nebula, but unable to use it just for this reason. You spend so much money and put so much energy to build explicit content, but all is waste if the player is not playing well. Fyi, I already provided this feedback months before on Fire TV app review, but nothing was done until now.
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-whereeveritgoes
My friend went to Hong Kong as a transit from the US (separate tickets bought) so he could return back to Malaysia (US --> HK --> Malaysia. He spent 2 weeks in the US he forgot about the change of date. He flew to HK on 3rd October (US date) so he could board the 3rd October flight home from HK airline. When he arrived in HK, the ticket guy told him it was already the 4th. He missed an entire day. Had to buy a new ticket.
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My friend went to Hong Kong as a transit from the US (separate tickets bought) so he could return back to Malaysia (US --> HK --> Malaysia. He spent 2 weeks in the US he forgot about the change of date. He flew to HK on 3rd October (US date) so he could board the 3rd October flight home from HK airline. When he arrived in HK, the ticket guy told him it was already the 4th. He missed an entire day. Had to buy a new ticket.
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-MissFaerlynn
Since it was mentioned in the video, I'd just like to point out one very insignificant but also fun fact - you said the new millennium started in year 2000 but that is not true, new millenium actually started on january 1st 2001! This is because of there being no year 0 in the callendar the most of the world uses and thus all new centuries and millennia begin on the 1st year of a given millennium or a century.
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Since it was mentioned in the video, I'd just like to point out one very insignificant but also fun fact - you said the new millennium started in year 2000 but that is not true, new millenium actually started on january 1st 2001! This is because of there being no year 0 in the callendar the most of the world uses and thus all new centuries and millennia begin on the 1st year of a given millennium or a century.
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-johnmcdonald284
Ships generally don't change back 24hrs on the dateline exactly, or even do time changes right at time zones. During a given passage you know how much time needs to be gained or lost so you map each time change to a day, it could be something like every other day you change and hour and then you'll add or subtract a day at something during the passage whenever makes sense the most for the pay period
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Ships generally don't change back 24hrs on the dateline exactly, or even do time changes right at time zones. During a given passage you know how much time needs to be gained or lost so you map each time change to a day, it could be something like every other day you change and hour and then you'll add or subtract a day at something during the passage whenever makes sense the most for the pay period
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-daenerys231
One mistake I noticed was that at one point talking about Samoa you said they only had three matching working days a week when in fact they have four. Ones mon-thur is the others tue-fri. Four matching days. Yes there is one mismatch on each end, but that doesn-t reduce the five day week to three but four.
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One mistake I noticed was that at one point talking about Samoa you said they only had three matching working days a week when in fact they have four. Ones mon-thur is the others tue-fri. Four matching days. Yes there is one mismatch on each end, but that doesn-t reduce the five day week to three but four.
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-Blalack77
I love random knowledge like this. I remember I used to wonder if there was anything notable/interesting about the point(s) where the equator and Prime Meridian/International Dateline intersect and/or if there were any other interesting intersections of latitude and longitude around the globe.
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I love random knowledge like this. I remember I used to wonder if there was anything notable/interesting about the point(s) where the equator and Prime Meridian/International Dateline intersect and/or if there were any other interesting intersections of latitude and longitude around the globe.
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-martys9972
This is a really well-produced and interesting video! One minor comment, though: The 180-th meridian is called the antimeridian (i. e, opposite the prime meridian, which you misspelled as antemeridian, which would mean before the meridian and is not a word.
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This is a really well-produced and interesting video! One minor comment, though: The 180-th meridian is called the antimeridian (i. e, opposite the prime meridian, which you misspelled as antemeridian, which would mean before the meridian and is not a word.
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-testuser2709
Everyone could just use UTC and local governments could set their own business hours at +/- hours from UTC and we wouldn-t have this weirdness. We-d all agree on one time and only ask what the local business hours are.
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Everyone could just use UTC and local governments could set their own business hours at +/- hours from UTC and we wouldn-t have this weirdness. We-d all agree on one time and only ask what the local business hours are.
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-robobo1726
They should have the same time zone for the whole world tbh, like the months that are the same across the world, even though the seasons switch with the hemispheres (for example, December in Australia is in the summer)
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They should have the same time zone for the whole world tbh, like the months that are the same across the world, even though the seasons switch with the hemispheres (for example, December in Australia is in the summer)
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-XiaoYueMao
Kiribati should have shifted the line west to cover their western most island instead, it keeps all the islands on one side AND makes the cut out much smaller, idk why they did the biggest possible method
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Kiribati should have shifted the line west to cover their western most island instead, it keeps all the islands on one side AND makes the cut out much smaller, idk why they did the biggest possible method
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reallifelore
In San Diego a few years ago we voted to end Daylight savings. The US government told us no. So much for a democracy. One of the most beautiful cities on earth gets datk at 5: 30. thanks shitty world
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In San Diego a few years ago we voted to end Daylight savings. The US government told us no. So much for a democracy. One of the most beautiful cities on earth gets datk at 5: 30. thanks shitty world
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-su_shadow9326
Still jet lagged from my vacation. But it was fun to note that my plane flight from amsterdam to seattle took about 10 hours. and it was only a hour later in that -day- timewise when I landed.
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Still jet lagged from my vacation. But it was fun to note that my plane flight from amsterdam to seattle took about 10 hours. and it was only a hour later in that -day- timewise when I landed.
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-louis8169
I stoped watching when you said the world had 24 time zones. It has 38. Maybe you mentionned it later, but I was not going to watch the whole video to see if you corrected your mistake.
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I stoped watching when you said the world had 24 time zones. It has 38. Maybe you mentionned it later, but I was not going to watch the whole video to see if you corrected your mistake.
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-JaydragonM
What really screws with my head is: to have there be 3 days simultaneously occurring the middle time zone doesn't need to be at noon, but instead needs to be between 10-11am.
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What really screws with my head is: to have there be 3 days simultaneously occurring the middle time zone doesn't need to be at noon, but instead needs to be between 10-11am.
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-KSE828
Getting rid of that silly hook, and making all the Samoan islands wither to the west or the east would do much to straighten out that line.
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Getting rid of that silly hook, and making all the Samoan islands wither to the west or the east would do much to straighten out that line.
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-Frankie1622
makes me wonder why Kiritimati couldn't just put themselves on the east side of the line instead, makes the line look slightly nicer
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makes me wonder why Kiritimati couldn't just put themselves on the east side of the line instead, makes the line look slightly nicer
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-rottenmoonlesbian
wouldnt it just be easier to shift around ur working week ti match ur closest trading partner rather than the whole calendar?
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wouldnt it just be easier to shift around ur working week ti match ur closest trading partner rather than the whole calendar?
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-derekmcnulty2559
I'm amazed the flight rime btwn la and Tokyo is three hrs more going west. Headwinds I guess. Or tailwind going back
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I'm amazed the flight rime btwn la and Tokyo is three hrs more going west. Headwinds I guess. Or tailwind going back
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-angelmensch8098
Remarkable similarity with Nova Lectio's video a couple weeks before it. If I remember correctly RLL speaks Italian?
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Remarkable similarity with Nova Lectio's video a couple weeks before it. If I remember correctly RLL speaks Italian?
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-ristube3319
Then what-s up with time zones running through states?
And what-s up with the: 30 time zones like in Iran I believe
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Then what-s up with time zones running through states?
And what-s up with the: 30 time zones like in Iran I believe
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-buzzaard7036
I was in the Navy and Celebrated July 4th 1984 in Tonga and then again the -following um same- day In American Samoa.
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I was in the Navy and Celebrated July 4th 1984 in Tonga and then again the -following um same- day In American Samoa.
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-KingKevin108
So my question is: How long could you make one calendar day last if you could fly around the planet without stopping?
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So my question is: How long could you make one calendar day last if you could fly around the planet without stopping?
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-mbmadden77
You repeatedly say that American Samoa is -ahead- of Samoa, when in fact they are a full day -behind-, not ahead.
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You repeatedly say that American Samoa is -ahead- of Samoa, when in fact they are a full day -behind-, not ahead.
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reallifelore
5 minutes in, and i am surprised i havent heard it is UK's fault
Edit: nevemind, 2 minutes later there it is
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5 minutes in, and i am surprised i havent heard it is UK's fault
Edit: nevemind, 2 minutes later there it is
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-maskedmallard537
Cool cool cool. Can you do a video about goofy timezones that start on the half or quarter hours and why?
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Cool cool cool. Can you do a video about goofy timezones that start on the half or quarter hours and why?
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-lucidlucifer8605
3: 22 not really video related but i lived in the village where the stock fotage of the vineyard is from
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3: 22 not really video related but i lived in the village where the stock fotage of the vineyard is from
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-ziazys7919
all im worried about is how lucky those people in the phillippines were they got to get a day off school/work
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all im worried about is how lucky those people in the phillippines were they got to get a day off school/work
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