Can you outsmart the slippery slope fallacy? - Elizabeth Cox
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Date: 2021-08-19
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jay
But China is already taking everything over. They control our president and government and are moving into countries all over the world. El Salvador for cheap labor, Africa and Afghanistan for minerals, Russia and Middle East and other socialist countries for energy, Australia is turning into a prison colony, and Taiwan is about to be taken over just like Hong Kong was. Once majority of the globe had fallen to China and they control the entire market, anyone left not under their control will soon fall unless they're able to take on the entire rest of the globe militarily AND be able to survive while being cut off from the global trade market. The world needs to fight back against these shut downs being used to turn the globe into a socialist nightmare controlled by China and big corporations.
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But China is already taking everything over. They control our president and government and are moving into countries all over the world. El Salvador for cheap labor, Africa and Afghanistan for minerals, Russia and Middle East and other socialist countries for energy, Australia is turning into a prison colony, and Taiwan is about to be taken over just like Hong Kong was. Once majority of the globe had fallen to China and they control the entire market, anyone left not under their control will soon fall unless they're able to take on the entire rest of the globe militarily AND be able to survive while being cut off from the global trade market. The world needs to fight back against these shut downs being used to turn the globe into a socialist nightmare controlled by China and big corporations.
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anonymous49125
The complaint is that you are not 100% certain of the results from a slippery slope, and therefore that's bad?
Can you describe in any detail any other means of predicting and anticipating future events with any higher level of certainty? OR do you believe like how chaos theory proposes, that the world is far too complex to have any meaningful long term prediction?
For my money, I think it's perfectly fine to anticipate even complex things without complete certainty; using reasonable assertions to describe future possible events shouldn't be seen as a sin.
Where this video fails is, you shouldn't rely on this type of thing as ARGUMENTATION (as in academic or formal debate) for why your assertions are correct, however, to deny the obvious outcomes (even
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The complaint is that you are not 100% certain of the results from a slippery slope, and therefore that's bad?
Can you describe in any detail any other means of predicting and anticipating future events with any higher level of certainty? OR do you believe like how chaos theory proposes, that the world is far too complex to have any meaningful long term prediction?
For my money, I think it's perfectly fine to anticipate even complex things without complete certainty; using reasonable assertions to describe future possible events shouldn't be seen as a sin.
Where this video fails is, you shouldn't rely on this type of thing as ARGUMENTATION (as in academic or formal debate) for why your assertions are correct, however, to deny the obvious outcomes (even
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Alex
For people who don't agree with the logic explained here. The demon doesn't have an issue with talking about possibilities that may or may not happen, or events that don't have a 100% chance of happening. Sure, discuss all possible scenarios, especially the one extreme case you're worried might happen. The issue here is that politicians tend to exaggerate some extreme event as something which is inevitable, simply to suit their own political goals. Misinforming the people, using fear-mongering to justify your wars. Maybe don't lie to your people? And don't exaggerate stuff just to justify your political stance.
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For people who don't agree with the logic explained here. The demon doesn't have an issue with talking about possibilities that may or may not happen, or events that don't have a 100% chance of happening. Sure, discuss all possible scenarios, especially the one extreme case you're worried might happen. The issue here is that politicians tend to exaggerate some extreme event as something which is inevitable, simply to suit their own political goals. Misinforming the people, using fear-mongering to justify your wars. Maybe don't lie to your people? And don't exaggerate stuff just to justify your political stance.
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Christian
So the only problem is using the word domino or slippery slope. But the fears of authoritarian communist governments manipulating nations to become authoritarian and communist like themselves was totally justified. And if American hadn t intervened in Korea, Vietnam and Germany; China and Russia would ve been far more aggressive and really easily could ve installed communist authoritarian governments all across the globe.
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So the only problem is using the word domino or slippery slope. But the fears of authoritarian communist governments manipulating nations to become authoritarian and communist like themselves was totally justified. And if American hadn t intervened in Korea, Vietnam and Germany; China and Russia would ve been far more aggressive and really easily could ve installed communist authoritarian governments all across the globe.
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Someone
Is evryone going to ignore the fact, that
1. Evryone is calm about a litteral demon appearing in front of them. Demon of reason or not.
2. There is no news about it.
3. The demon always forgets to pit on his clothes. Like, come on, so many episodes, and he is still making the same mistake.
4. Eisemhower has no bodyguards. (I'm not exactly shure about the last one)
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Is evryone going to ignore the fact, that
1. Evryone is calm about a litteral demon appearing in front of them. Demon of reason or not.
2. There is no news about it.
3. The demon always forgets to pit on his clothes. Like, come on, so many episodes, and he is still making the same mistake.
4. Eisemhower has no bodyguards. (I'm not exactly shure about the last one)
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Jonathan
I don t think the slippery slope fallacy applies as much to politics. The threat of authoritarianism will always be here, whether it s communism or fascism. I don t think it s unreasonable to suggest that if we give politicians/the government an inch, they will take a mile. Even worse, many citizens will demand authoritarianism if they feel threatened enough.
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I don t think the slippery slope fallacy applies as much to politics. The threat of authoritarianism will always be here, whether it s communism or fascism. I don t think it s unreasonable to suggest that if we give politicians/the government an inch, they will take a mile. Even worse, many citizens will demand authoritarianism if they feel threatened enough.
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Aer
The slippery slope fallacy is certainly worth understanding, but in my experience it is often weaponized to dismiss valid concerns as outlandish. People tend to forget that in many cases every step on the path from A to Z is a bad thing, so while Z might not be inevitable even F might be a considerably worse situation that we ought to avoid.
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The slippery slope fallacy is certainly worth understanding, but in my experience it is often weaponized to dismiss valid concerns as outlandish. People tend to forget that in many cases every step on the path from A to Z is a bad thing, so while Z might not be inevitable even F might be a considerably worse situation that we ought to avoid.
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SCP-049
So if I start at a hill(a) and go to the bottom of the hill(z, and only 99% probability for each step to be made/taken, then the probability of z will be less than the probability for each step(the rest of the alphabet. Go any further than 99% and the probability of reaching the end(z) will be much lower.
Cool.
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So if I start at a hill(a) and go to the bottom of the hill(z, and only 99% probability for each step to be made/taken, then the probability of z will be less than the probability for each step(the rest of the alphabet. Go any further than 99% and the probability of reaching the end(z) will be much lower.
Cool.
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mad636man
This could be viewed as Chinese or Russian propaganda. If you want to use the A-Z model saying oh the likely hood of Z is very small if you have all these steps in between I would say. Ok but if you want Z to have 0% chance then you just don t let A happen. It s that simple.
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This could be viewed as Chinese or Russian propaganda. If you want to use the A-Z model saying oh the likely hood of Z is very small if you have all these steps in between I would say. Ok but if you want Z to have 0% chance then you just don t let A happen. It s that simple.
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Anirudha
I think the counter to the explanation of probabilities is that all these events are not necessarily independent. The very nature of the slippery slope could be to have larger and larger joint probabilities as each event a, b, c. occur.
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I think the counter to the explanation of probabilities is that all these events are not necessarily independent. The very nature of the slippery slope could be to have larger and larger joint probabilities as each event a, b, c. occur.
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