What if the Indo European Invasions never happened?
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The indoaryans were a culture that totally transformed the entire ancient near east ever since the early 20th century BC, just by sheer virtue of settling around for several centuries. Even back then, the world was interconnected and no people was not changed by having new neighbors or distant trade partners for 1000 years.
For example, there would not even BE an Israel/jewish people to start with: they developed during centuries of the proto-indoarian influence, among that the hittites. Who knows what deities they would have worshipped in their absence? Next, Egypt only was able to conquer the levant in the New Kingdom, because of the chariot technology, in the first place. Even so, I'm torn on the idea that it was only the chariot that gave the advantage to the indoeuropeans. as there is some evidence of basic chariots already existing in sumerian times and them being invented independently long before the indoaryans arrived. Still, the Egyptians wouldn't have steamrolled Mesopotamia like in an imbalanced videogame: they were culturally shackled to their river and the Sumerians/Akkadians were no dummies, as they had to constantly fight the Elamites and Zagros tribes since time immemorial.
However, just as things stand, other tribes and peoples would have taken the place of these particular invaders. The ancient middle east suffered a series of foreign invaders you hardly can believe, from all sides.
Ancient Egypt alone had already assimilated various invading groups long before the famous Hyksos invasion.
Date: 2022-07-15
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Dheer
Class system or caste system has nothing to do with IE or anyother. You have little knowledge about how sociology works. Caste system is product of urbanization, as any society become urbanized it needs labour of distribution and they need people master in specific craftsmanship, it gradually becomes hereditary. Ancient Egypt, or Mesopotamia, or Greece had same or similar systems. With all genetic studies it's second century AD when free gene flow stopped in indian population, so basically rigid caste system started in 2nd century AD while most western scholars think Aryans arrived in india 1500 BC or earlier, already 1700 years passed. Second urbanization started in India in 600 BC where class system started forming and new sarmana & brahmanic ideas and philosophy started shaping probably after Aruni or Yajnavalkya. Caste system is probably shaped in Gupta period where laws of manu strictly imposed. But you can talk any shit for getting views as there was no caste system in Europe, in fact roman and Greece civilization had very strict caste system, also widespread slavery. Also, Tamils are demigods and god periyar created the world in 2 seconds, while karunanidhi is an incarnation as son of the God.
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Class system or caste system has nothing to do with IE or anyother. You have little knowledge about how sociology works. Caste system is product of urbanization, as any society become urbanized it needs labour of distribution and they need people master in specific craftsmanship, it gradually becomes hereditary. Ancient Egypt, or Mesopotamia, or Greece had same or similar systems. With all genetic studies it's second century AD when free gene flow stopped in indian population, so basically rigid caste system started in 2nd century AD while most western scholars think Aryans arrived in india 1500 BC or earlier, already 1700 years passed. Second urbanization started in India in 600 BC where class system started forming and new sarmana & brahmanic ideas and philosophy started shaping probably after Aruni or Yajnavalkya. Caste system is probably shaped in Gupta period where laws of manu strictly imposed. But you can talk any shit for getting views as there was no caste system in Europe, in fact roman and Greece civilization had very strict caste system, also widespread slavery. Also, Tamils are demigods and god periyar created the world in 2 seconds, while karunanidhi is an incarnation as son of the God.
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BrownBricks
The China bit is laughably wrong. The chariot and bronzeworking were introduced to China in the 13th century BC. China's unification and the beginning of its imperial period were in 221 BC. Chariots had been around for centuries at that point. By the time the Qin triumphed over other states, armies were massed, levied, infantry-based, and used mass-produced equipment. They weren't the aristocratic, chariot-riding forces of old. It is true that the introduction of horses was a factor that helped Chinese states to take advantage of the North China Plain's geography and keep the country unified, and horseback cavalry had begun to be used during the Warring States period, but China was not unified directly after the introduction of the chariot.
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The China bit is laughably wrong. The chariot and bronzeworking were introduced to China in the 13th century BC. China's unification and the beginning of its imperial period were in 221 BC. Chariots had been around for centuries at that point. By the time the Qin triumphed over other states, armies were massed, levied, infantry-based, and used mass-produced equipment. They weren't the aristocratic, chariot-riding forces of old. It is true that the introduction of horses was a factor that helped Chinese states to take advantage of the North China Plain's geography and keep the country unified, and horseback cavalry had begun to be used during the Warring States period, but China was not unified directly after the introduction of the chariot.
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education
U left up the elamite who the persian took alot of their culture and civilization from also in the middle east there was the semetic, the coptic, the iranians, the europians(hittite, greek, arminian and others) and lastly the hurrian the last group are the native of asia minor and northern syria but they never had a unified state there was only semetic or indo-europian the only time they had a state was mitani with europian dynasty witch ended their culture with the end of mitani they were similated all of their culture to a semetic one
With that i think modern middle east would have a completely different cultuer and identity
Also for the elamite the king successer was the first son from his sister so male ruled by a female line
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U left up the elamite who the persian took alot of their culture and civilization from also in the middle east there was the semetic, the coptic, the iranians, the europians(hittite, greek, arminian and others) and lastly the hurrian the last group are the native of asia minor and northern syria but they never had a unified state there was only semetic or indo-europian the only time they had a state was mitani with europian dynasty witch ended their culture with the end of mitani they were similated all of their culture to a semetic one
With that i think modern middle east would have a completely different cultuer and identity
Also for the elamite the king successer was the first son from his sister so male ruled by a female line
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Airyana
But I have to give it to you, you have a surprisingly high amount of accurate information to the subjects I know. Because of your voice, people just feel like needing to attack you. They thing your voice reduces your credibility and therefore become biased. Ill tell you something. In the past the overwhelming majority believed the earth was flat. Because one did not think that way and because he was outnumbered, he changed his mind. This doesnt work on me. I follow possibility and factuality. If its true, no matter how many people go against you, it remains that their answers arent the truth youre following.
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But I have to give it to you, you have a surprisingly high amount of accurate information to the subjects I know. Because of your voice, people just feel like needing to attack you. They thing your voice reduces your credibility and therefore become biased. Ill tell you something. In the past the overwhelming majority believed the earth was flat. Because one did not think that way and because he was outnumbered, he changed his mind. This doesnt work on me. I follow possibility and factuality. If its true, no matter how many people go against you, it remains that their answers arent the truth youre following.
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Aryan
Indian army always looses, 5000 year old history, Only 5 kingdoms of Foreign descend despite India being the most fertile land of the period, of which 3 had Sizeable Indian soldiers and 2021 still with the Same Cultural Identity we had 5000 years ago. And you are only counting the successful Invasions, what about the numerous unsuccessful Invasions?
Now compare it with Persia, Greek invasions, and Persia became Greeko Persian, Arab Invasion and they became Arabized, same with Egyptians and Afghans. Most of Europe got Romanized with the Roman expansions, then europeans got Hunnic invasions.
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Indian army always looses, 5000 year old history, Only 5 kingdoms of Foreign descend despite India being the most fertile land of the period, of which 3 had Sizeable Indian soldiers and 2021 still with the Same Cultural Identity we had 5000 years ago. And you are only counting the successful Invasions, what about the numerous unsuccessful Invasions?
Now compare it with Persia, Greek invasions, and Persia became Greeko Persian, Arab Invasion and they became Arabized, same with Egyptians and Afghans. Most of Europe got Romanized with the Roman expansions, then europeans got Hunnic invasions.
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Lu
Tbh I enjoyed this videos a lot but as this is a topic I know more about I notice more how flawed his videos are. Many statements are quite insulting a poorly based on facts: E. g. why does he say so simple that the european and indian culture is based on indo european culture? Many cultural studies nowadays point out, that the vedic culture and greek culture are very unsimilar and that often in history languages replaced each other, as they can hardly reunite, while cultures could do so easily and many peoples in the past adopted a large part of a foreign culture while spreading their language.
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Tbh I enjoyed this videos a lot but as this is a topic I know more about I notice more how flawed his videos are. Many statements are quite insulting a poorly based on facts: E. g. why does he say so simple that the european and indian culture is based on indo european culture? Many cultural studies nowadays point out, that the vedic culture and greek culture are very unsimilar and that often in history languages replaced each other, as they can hardly reunite, while cultures could do so easily and many peoples in the past adopted a large part of a foreign culture while spreading their language.
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David
The Minoans didn't fall because of the Indo Europeans, they fell because of Thera. Also, southern Europe wouldn't be more like the Middle East, the Middle East would have been far more like southern Europe as the Greeks had plenty of colonies in Anatolia & the Levant which would have kept spreading Hellenic influence without Persian interference, and history would have been so different, there wouldn't have been an Arab invasion. It would be interesting for you to redo these older videos now that your style has evolved.
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The Minoans didn't fall because of the Indo Europeans, they fell because of Thera. Also, southern Europe wouldn't be more like the Middle East, the Middle East would have been far more like southern Europe as the Greeks had plenty of colonies in Anatolia & the Levant which would have kept spreading Hellenic influence without Persian interference, and history would have been so different, there wouldn't have been an Arab invasion. It would be interesting for you to redo these older videos now that your style has evolved.
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Meme
Its quite funny how western whites are obsessed with this theory.
First of all these Indo - aryans are probably close to Iranic people. For example the Yamnayas were predominantly Indian-aryan (iranian) admixture, scientists have found their facial characteristics. They most likely resembles proto-scythains (iranic) people. Not making this up. Look for yourself.
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Secondly, there was no steepe ancestry until 25000 years ago approx. in North-Indian (also includes Pakistani)genes
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Its quite funny how western whites are obsessed with this theory.
First of all these Indo - aryans are probably close to Iranic people. For example the Yamnayas were predominantly Indian-aryan (iranian) admixture, scientists have found their facial characteristics. They most likely resembles proto-scythains (iranic) people. Not making this up. Look for yourself.
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Secondly, there was no steepe ancestry until 25000 years ago approx. in North-Indian (also includes Pakistani)genes
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adamnesico
2: 00 really?
Gene analysis shows a massive change of Y haplogroups in the yamnaya invasions, that is clearly correlatd with genocide.
In America happened the same with european dominance.
This timeline is nice, Id like to do a scenario about it, but honestly, mmmmm any event producing the yamnas not making chariots?
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I only can think a comet falling and wiping them. Use the wheel and horses for war was something that had to happen.
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2: 00 really?
Gene analysis shows a massive change of Y haplogroups in the yamnaya invasions, that is clearly correlatd with genocide.
In America happened the same with european dominance.
This timeline is nice, Id like to do a scenario about it, but honestly, mmmmm any event producing the yamnas not making chariots?
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I only can think a comet falling and wiping them. Use the wheel and horses for war was something that had to happen.
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