How to see The Hobbit in 48fps / 3D Cinema Explained: Indy News December 10, 2012
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zhks92
Thanks a lot for the info. Every IMAX projector is capable of handling 48fps. All it needs is a licensed software for decryption. And approval of the actual sample venue footage from the specifically appointed team of Mr. Jackson that flies down to that IMAX venue. Besides, there is only one multiplex chain (INOX) back here in India that has applied for 48fps decryption software for their potent projectors. The good news is the sample they sent to Mr. Jackson's clearance team has been approved.
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Thanks a lot for the info. Every IMAX projector is capable of handling 48fps. All it needs is a licensed software for decryption. And approval of the actual sample venue footage from the specifically appointed team of Mr. Jackson that flies down to that IMAX venue. Besides, there is only one multiplex chain (INOX) back here in India that has applied for 48fps decryption software for their potent projectors. The good news is the sample they sent to Mr. Jackson's clearance team has been approved.
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Reticuli
No, people think that soap opera look was ever the result of high frame rates. Old soaps were shot in 30i or 25i. They were never shot higher than that. Only stuff people have ever seen HFR are 720p sports and computer games, and everyone likes high fps for those. Bad video is the result of dynamic range, long exposures, depth of field, sensor size, lense type, and a bunch of other stuff. Fact: 24p video's longer exposures potentially makes things worse if utilized. e. g. Public Enemies.
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No, people think that soap opera look was ever the result of high frame rates. Old soaps were shot in 30i or 25i. They were never shot higher than that. Only stuff people have ever seen HFR are 720p sports and computer games, and everyone likes high fps for those. Bad video is the result of dynamic range, long exposures, depth of field, sensor size, lense type, and a bunch of other stuff. Fact: 24p video's longer exposures potentially makes things worse if utilized. e. g. Public Enemies.
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Luke
Just to throw in a UK comment on the Hobbit in HFR isense 3D (this is the non imax 48fps theatre (well cinema here) version of 3D. We thought it was superb. It felt very cinematic because 3D glasses always drop the brightness down. No evidence of dodgy sets or make-up being shown-up by the clarity. It was NOT distracting, NO feeling sick! Don't agree its like having the screen cut away to see real life, as Peter Jackson said, just fantastic. would like this quality always from now on!
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Just to throw in a UK comment on the Hobbit in HFR isense 3D (this is the non imax 48fps theatre (well cinema here) version of 3D. We thought it was superb. It felt very cinematic because 3D glasses always drop the brightness down. No evidence of dodgy sets or make-up being shown-up by the clarity. It was NOT distracting, NO feeling sick! Don't agree its like having the screen cut away to see real life, as Peter Jackson said, just fantastic. would like this quality always from now on!
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Lukas
Griffin, maybe you should have experimented and posted a 1080p version of today's episode to fully test the powers and capabilities of the GH3? I mean, in many DSLRs, and camcorders as well, the problems with noise in dark places and on dark colors, start to show and/or become more clear when being upressed and such. Take the AG-AF100/101/102 as an example. In 720p, almost no noise, but in 1080p it becomes all messy and terrible. For today's standards as well.
Just my two cents: )
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Griffin, maybe you should have experimented and posted a 1080p version of today's episode to fully test the powers and capabilities of the GH3? I mean, in many DSLRs, and camcorders as well, the problems with noise in dark places and on dark colors, start to show and/or become more clear when being upressed and such. Take the AG-AF100/101/102 as an example. In 720p, almost no noise, but in 1080p it becomes all messy and terrible. For today's standards as well.
Just my two cents: )
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Golden
The screen has a special coating which can require maintenance and can only be cleaned with the correct materials. When we do our checks with torches you can really see how reflective the screen is. Some optical issues can mean 3D doesn't work for the viewer i. e. having one eye out of alignment. I find it hard to watch 3D for too long but it depends on how the 3D was done i. e. post production like Captain America made made me dizzy for a bit, but Prometheus was fine.
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The screen has a special coating which can require maintenance and can only be cleaned with the correct materials. When we do our checks with torches you can really see how reflective the screen is. Some optical issues can mean 3D doesn't work for the viewer i. e. having one eye out of alignment. I find it hard to watch 3D for too long but it depends on how the 3D was done i. e. post production like Captain America made made me dizzy for a bit, but Prometheus was fine.
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PoopaChallupa
It sucks i won't be able to see the films how jackson intended. I have the rest of my life to watch it at 24fps in 2d on dvd. There's only a short window (at the moment) to see it in HFR 3D imax. Which i won't get a chance to unless i drive 4 hrs to do so. And i love HOBBIT/LOTR. I would drive that far if i had to just to watch the movie, but not to watch it in HFR 3D imax. I'll have to settle for just regular 24fps 3D. Whoa me.
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It sucks i won't be able to see the films how jackson intended. I have the rest of my life to watch it at 24fps in 2d on dvd. There's only a short window (at the moment) to see it in HFR 3D imax. Which i won't get a chance to unless i drive 4 hrs to do so. And i love HOBBIT/LOTR. I would drive that far if i had to just to watch the movie, but not to watch it in HFR 3D imax. I'll have to settle for just regular 24fps 3D. Whoa me.
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zhks92
Only one IMAX screen in my city. No. It's not a LieMax. Shall be playing it in IMAX 3D at 24fps. So i shall watch it twice. Once in IMAX 3D. the second time in HFR 3D. What surprises me is that no one is discussing about the Dolby Atmos Surround technology used for The Hobbit. So Mr. Jackson intended the film to be seen in IMAX HFR 3D with Dolby Atmos Surround. And I have no clue as to which local theatres have DAS sound.
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Only one IMAX screen in my city. No. It's not a LieMax. Shall be playing it in IMAX 3D at 24fps. So i shall watch it twice. Once in IMAX 3D. the second time in HFR 3D. What surprises me is that no one is discussing about the Dolby Atmos Surround technology used for The Hobbit. So Mr. Jackson intended the film to be seen in IMAX HFR 3D with Dolby Atmos Surround. And I have no clue as to which local theatres have DAS sound.
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Jeffrey
IMAX Digital uses 2K projectors, not 4K. This is what is most commonly found in multiplex IMAX screens. These are the only ones that can play HFR (with a software upgrade) since it is digital. IMAX 15/70 film projectors cannot do HFR. Furthermore, I am not aware of any true 15/70 IMAX theaters showing this in 3D since it would probably be too much film given almost 3 hrs plus the two film feeds needed for 3D.
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IMAX Digital uses 2K projectors, not 4K. This is what is most commonly found in multiplex IMAX screens. These are the only ones that can play HFR (with a software upgrade) since it is digital. IMAX 15/70 film projectors cannot do HFR. Furthermore, I am not aware of any true 15/70 IMAX theaters showing this in 3D since it would probably be too much film given almost 3 hrs plus the two film feeds needed for 3D.
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Reticuli
I'm thinking they are not actually printing any of the dual stereo 15/70 for Hobbit in 48fps. There are IMAX venues capable of showing it, but comparing the master list of IMAX HFR 3D list with lists of known 15/70 installs, it appears the HFR is all digital installs, so it will be 2k digital like all the other digital HFR 3D venues. I suspect there are no 15/70 HFR 3D prints in existance, now.
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I'm thinking they are not actually printing any of the dual stereo 15/70 for Hobbit in 48fps. There are IMAX venues capable of showing it, but comparing the master list of IMAX HFR 3D list with lists of known 15/70 installs, it appears the HFR is all digital installs, so it will be 2k digital like all the other digital HFR 3D venues. I suspect there are no 15/70 HFR 3D prints in existance, now.
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Gbor
I'm not Griffin, but I'm sure this isn't how it's intended to work. I never had a double picutre, even though I saw quite a few 3D movies and certainly had some problems with the glasses. And I personnally don't mind that I forget I'm watching a 3D movie. I mean, I usually forget that I'm watching a color movie, too, and black and white looks out of place, instead.
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I'm not Griffin, but I'm sure this isn't how it's intended to work. I never had a double picutre, even though I saw quite a few 3D movies and certainly had some problems with the glasses. And I personnally don't mind that I forget I'm watching a 3D movie. I mean, I usually forget that I'm watching a color movie, too, and black and white looks out of place, instead.
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Keira
I bought a Canon t3i for around $600. With the release of the Canon t4i, the price in the older model dropped. You might be able to find one cheaper, especially if you don't mind buying used. A little extra cash, (trust me I'm on a budget too) but it's a DSLR and you can do a lot of stuff with it. But like Griffin said, the iPhone CAN be used to great effect.
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I bought a Canon t3i for around $600. With the release of the Canon t4i, the price in the older model dropped. You might be able to find one cheaper, especially if you don't mind buying used. A little extra cash, (trust me I'm on a budget too) but it's a DSLR and you can do a lot of stuff with it. But like Griffin said, the iPhone CAN be used to great effect.
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kowetas
I thought that during Avatar because it was too gimicky. Although the movie wasn't good, some of the 3D Extreme wide shots in the latest Transformers were amazingly good looking, and The Avengers handled the 3D reasonably well. For me it's not a problem unless the 3D is integral to the film's enjoyment and watching it in 2D is then pointless.
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I thought that during Avatar because it was too gimicky. Although the movie wasn't good, some of the 3D Extreme wide shots in the latest Transformers were amazingly good looking, and The Avengers handled the 3D reasonably well. For me it's not a problem unless the 3D is integral to the film's enjoyment and watching it in 2D is then pointless.
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Jeffrey
The bulk of IMAX 3D is done with their digital systems now which use 2 2k projectors. It's a rip off because the screens are usually smaller and the 2k resolution is effectively the same as your 1080p tv. Most are not showing HFR probably because IMAX digital is so proprietary upgrades to the projectors need to be vetted through IMAX corp.
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The bulk of IMAX 3D is done with their digital systems now which use 2 2k projectors. It's a rip off because the screens are usually smaller and the 2k resolution is effectively the same as your 1080p tv. Most are not showing HFR probably because IMAX digital is so proprietary upgrades to the projectors need to be vetted through IMAX corp.
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aHighway2Hell
Because only a small percentage of 3d movies are actually shot with 3d cameras (2 cameras, the 3d experience has been disappointing to a lot of viewers. But this one might (and I'm sure will) be different, because the 3d effect is not only applied to the special effects but added trough some already 3d footage
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Because only a small percentage of 3d movies are actually shot with 3d cameras (2 cameras, the 3d experience has been disappointing to a lot of viewers. But this one might (and I'm sure will) be different, because the 3d effect is not only applied to the special effects but added trough some already 3d footage
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JVanSky
Thanks so much for the heads up about the HFR theaters, probably wouldn't have thought about it and just got tickets to the 24fps one! By the way I did find a HFR 3D theater that wasn't on the list. Its Nashville, TN Regal Green Hills Stadium 16, its not iMax but its the next best thing.
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Thanks so much for the heads up about the HFR theaters, probably wouldn't have thought about it and just got tickets to the 24fps one! By the way I did find a HFR 3D theater that wasn't on the list. Its Nashville, TN Regal Green Hills Stadium 16, its not iMax but its the next best thing.
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OITD
I just saw The Hobbit in 3D/48fps. 3 hours later, my eyes were a bit fatigued but not as much as I have felt coming out of other 3D movies. It was well worth seeing Rivendale in 3D and plenty of cinematography uses for the 3D. It wasn't gimmicky and I felt it added to the action sequences.
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I just saw The Hobbit in 3D/48fps. 3 hours later, my eyes were a bit fatigued but not as much as I have felt coming out of other 3D movies. It was well worth seeing Rivendale in 3D and plenty of cinematography uses for the 3D. It wasn't gimmicky and I felt it added to the action sequences.
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Golden
So are you saying that you focus on the lens of the glasses? Is it like holding a book right up to your nose for 90-120minutes when watching a 3D film? I'm going to check this out, see what I am focusing by looking at other things in my periphery, i. e. the masking and emergency exits.
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So are you saying that you focus on the lens of the glasses? Is it like holding a book right up to your nose for 90-120minutes when watching a 3D film? I'm going to check this out, see what I am focusing by looking at other things in my periphery, i. e. the masking and emergency exits.
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Joey
I was noticing that some of the HFR non Imax theaters have the word imax in the name of the theatre such as: Miami: Cobb Dolphin 24 with IMAX Does this mean its not true Imax? or does the HFR cause the projection to lose quality to compensate for the extra frames it needs to put out?
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I was noticing that some of the HFR non Imax theaters have the word imax in the name of the theatre such as: Miami: Cobb Dolphin 24 with IMAX Does this mean its not true Imax? or does the HFR cause the projection to lose quality to compensate for the extra frames it needs to put out?
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Thom
my local cinema in nottingham uk is showing it in full imax HFR 3d. will be my first imax film. I think I should probably go. although the cinema down the road is showing it in good old 2d 24fps but they have a bar and I can take booze into the screening. hmmm hard choice now
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my local cinema in nottingham uk is showing it in full imax HFR 3d. will be my first imax film. I think I should probably go. although the cinema down the road is showing it in good old 2d 24fps but they have a bar and I can take booze into the screening. hmmm hard choice now
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