LGR - Commodore PET Computer System Review
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Date: 2022-04-14
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greedy
Wayne S. Green II, W2NSD (-Never Say Die-, of Hancock, New Hampshire, a Ham Radio Friend of mine, Really Pushed Computers and look at how many Magazines He Created, these onlt Computers, there were many others.
Wayne Green was founder of 73 magazine; Byte magazine; Kilobyte, which
became Kilobaud, then Kilobaud Microcomputing; 80 Micro magazine for the
TRS-80; Hot Coco for the TRS-80 Color Computer; Run for the Commodore
64, inCider magazine for the Apple II; and several other computer
magazines.
Indeed, Green often was ahead of the curve in promoting
such technologies as single-sideband phone, solid-state, FM, and the
marriage of computers and ham radio, and he went on to found and publish
Byte and other computer-oriented publications. -I live mostly in the future, - Green was quoted as saying.
Former ARRL Contributing Editor Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU, once wrote in
his -Surfin-- web column, -We take computers and the Internet for
granted today. I first became interested in computers when Wayne Green,
W2NSD, started writing about them in 73 magazine in the 1970s. Back then, you had to build your own from scratch or from kits. -
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Wayne S. Green II, W2NSD (-Never Say Die-, of Hancock, New Hampshire, a Ham Radio Friend of mine, Really Pushed Computers and look at how many Magazines He Created, these onlt Computers, there were many others.
Wayne Green was founder of 73 magazine; Byte magazine; Kilobyte, which
became Kilobaud, then Kilobaud Microcomputing; 80 Micro magazine for the
TRS-80; Hot Coco for the TRS-80 Color Computer; Run for the Commodore
64, inCider magazine for the Apple II; and several other computer
magazines.
Indeed, Green often was ahead of the curve in promoting
such technologies as single-sideband phone, solid-state, FM, and the
marriage of computers and ham radio, and he went on to found and publish
Byte and other computer-oriented publications. -I live mostly in the future, - Green was quoted as saying.
Former ARRL Contributing Editor Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU, once wrote in
his -Surfin-- web column, -We take computers and the Internet for
granted today. I first became interested in computers when Wayne Green,
W2NSD, started writing about them in 73 magazine in the 1970s. Back then, you had to build your own from scratch or from kits. -
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gurujaketube
I used PETs quite a but in the early 80s, as my high school in The Bronx had several of them, from one of the originals with the calculator keyboard, to a SuperPet. We had a few double disk drives, which as I recall could be networked to several machines. I contest the notion that the PET was a limited machine. It came with a very user-friendly version of BASIC and had a built-in -monitor- which was a essentially a stripped-down machine language assembler. This made it possible to write hybrid programs in basic and machine code that enabled the programmer (back then, users WERE programmers because that's what computers were for, programming) to do some amazing things. The biggest limitation my friends and I encountered was that Commodore somehow made it impossible to change the operating system's pointers to the the character set from ROM to RAM. So the character set could not be copied and redefined, as one could do on the Atari, another 6502 machine. I did learn a lot on the PET and have many fond memories.
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I used PETs quite a but in the early 80s, as my high school in The Bronx had several of them, from one of the originals with the calculator keyboard, to a SuperPet. We had a few double disk drives, which as I recall could be networked to several machines. I contest the notion that the PET was a limited machine. It came with a very user-friendly version of BASIC and had a built-in -monitor- which was a essentially a stripped-down machine language assembler. This made it possible to write hybrid programs in basic and machine code that enabled the programmer (back then, users WERE programmers because that's what computers were for, programming) to do some amazing things. The biggest limitation my friends and I encountered was that Commodore somehow made it impossible to change the operating system's pointers to the the character set from ROM to RAM. So the character set could not be copied and redefined, as one could do on the Atari, another 6502 machine. I did learn a lot on the PET and have many fond memories.
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Stephen
A whole lotta nothing, equipped with a 0. 001 gigahertz processor! Already in my 20s by that time, it really isn't so surprising that I saw this kind of kit, and the somewhat lacklustre home computers of the era, as being of little constructive use in the home environment. It was, in a sense, a catch 22 scenario. Because I was beyond the age range to get into computers in the workplace, I didn't develop any computer skills. So, by the time home PCs were powerful enough for some useful purpose, at least as I would define it, yet not following previous advances, I didn't have the foggiest clue how to use them. I had to learn privately, but as I did so, they got even better. Well, at least I know which bits to buy, and where to plug them in, in order to make a computer.
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A whole lotta nothing, equipped with a 0. 001 gigahertz processor! Already in my 20s by that time, it really isn't so surprising that I saw this kind of kit, and the somewhat lacklustre home computers of the era, as being of little constructive use in the home environment. It was, in a sense, a catch 22 scenario. Because I was beyond the age range to get into computers in the workplace, I didn't develop any computer skills. So, by the time home PCs were powerful enough for some useful purpose, at least as I would define it, yet not following previous advances, I didn't have the foggiest clue how to use them. I had to learn privately, but as I did so, they got even better. Well, at least I know which bits to buy, and where to plug them in, in order to make a computer.
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Acme.
I must say, I never owned a PET and I didn't knew about this computer up til my 30s. But when I see this PET, I immediately recognize why in Windows and DOS and many other systems the computer was always shown as a Monitor directly connected to the computer unit, although no DOS machine (even the Desktop ones) never were monitor and computer in one case. And I also recognized then, why the Computer in the comics for the 64'er computer magazine for the C64 was not looking at all like a C64. they used the PET as the computer, this crazy parrot who wants to rule the world with his computer: D A pet using a PET.
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I must say, I never owned a PET and I didn't knew about this computer up til my 30s. But when I see this PET, I immediately recognize why in Windows and DOS and many other systems the computer was always shown as a Monitor directly connected to the computer unit, although no DOS machine (even the Desktop ones) never were monitor and computer in one case. And I also recognized then, why the Computer in the comics for the 64'er computer magazine for the C64 was not looking at all like a C64. they used the PET as the computer, this crazy parrot who wants to rule the world with his computer: D A pet using a PET.
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Richard
As always, awesome video! Some dream about owning a Ferrari and some of owning a PET, Im the later but a bit to expensive for me right now so I stick with my Commodore 64 from 1983 that I had since I was a brat and it still works, my lill -breadbin-. Emulators is a nice way to get things done easy and quick but I have a hard time using them. If I go retro I want it all even the frustration with finding what I want, the loading time, the adjustment of the tone head to not get that -Load Error-, its part of the history and that is what I want to be apart of even today. -
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As always, awesome video! Some dream about owning a Ferrari and some of owning a PET, Im the later but a bit to expensive for me right now so I stick with my Commodore 64 from 1983 that I had since I was a brat and it still works, my lill -breadbin-. Emulators is a nice way to get things done easy and quick but I have a hard time using them. If I go retro I want it all even the frustration with finding what I want, the loading time, the adjustment of the tone head to not get that -Load Error-, its part of the history and that is what I want to be apart of even today. -
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Bro
Man, I love old technology: ) when I know how to use it, anyway XD the oldest things I know how to use computer based are Windows 1. 01 and DOS. Whenever I try an older system like that, my starting goal is always to find some kind of typing program / word processor that lets me save text documents so I can record things. Even if there's little else I can do, I enjoy that a lot, even more than the games built into the system or most other programs. You can just type away into those and pretend you're using the machine in its era and all
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Man, I love old technology: ) when I know how to use it, anyway XD the oldest things I know how to use computer based are Windows 1. 01 and DOS. Whenever I try an older system like that, my starting goal is always to find some kind of typing program / word processor that lets me save text documents so I can record things. Even if there's little else I can do, I enjoy that a lot, even more than the games built into the system or most other programs. You can just type away into those and pretend you're using the machine in its era and all
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Matthew
In 1981 or 1982 my Dad got this computer to take home from the university where he worked. It ran Wordpro 4 plus, the first word processor I ever used, and it wasn-t bad for the time. I bought a book that had a bunch of games that ran on it, but I had to enter them by hand. Some actually worked (they had been written for the earlier version of PET so there were display issues with some games. We ran a disk drive on it and I have a memory of it being part of the machine, not external, but that could be wrong.
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In 1981 or 1982 my Dad got this computer to take home from the university where he worked. It ran Wordpro 4 plus, the first word processor I ever used, and it wasn-t bad for the time. I bought a book that had a bunch of games that ran on it, but I had to enter them by hand. Some actually worked (they had been written for the earlier version of PET so there were display issues with some games. We ran a disk drive on it and I have a memory of it being part of the machine, not external, but that could be wrong.
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Derrius
Also teddy ruexpin and Alphies recent.
Also some and tv looks and also with movie group or Honda and with also with movie abd terminator. And the wgn or near knight Rider and with million dollar Man.
Also with also some and messages or audio and done and notes.
Also surprised and with near Jamaican and near Venice beach and Santa Monica area. And near also Sunset Blvd. Some and also notes and mentions.
And with movie abd also. voltrons. .
And popular s.
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Also teddy ruexpin and Alphies recent.
Also some and tv looks and also with movie group or Honda and with also with movie abd terminator. And the wgn or near knight Rider and with million dollar Man.
Also with also some and messages or audio and done and notes.
Also surprised and with near Jamaican and near Venice beach and Santa Monica area. And near also Sunset Blvd. Some and also notes and mentions.
And with movie abd also. voltrons. .
And popular s.
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Mr.
I had no time to repair, or the space, so I gave the Pet to a keen in tech student. And yes, these beasts were super heavy. But besides Amigas and vintage Atari computers, I did not have too much interest in this machine, yet there are some regrets, for I would have liked to fix it. Also, I learned basic programming on a TRS Model 3, but these machines are expensive and so expensive to ship today.
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I had no time to repair, or the space, so I gave the Pet to a keen in tech student. And yes, these beasts were super heavy. But besides Amigas and vintage Atari computers, I did not have too much interest in this machine, yet there are some regrets, for I would have liked to fix it. Also, I learned basic programming on a TRS Model 3, but these machines are expensive and so expensive to ship today.
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aly
someone i know builds special PET machines, he buys dead ones and puts colour monitors in them, he then will fit the commodore computer of your choice inside, he recommends the c128, but has done c64 and even a vic20, i have done similar things with other 8 bit machines and single board computers, i only have one rule, the donor has to be dead i wont chop a working classic.
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someone i know builds special PET machines, he buys dead ones and puts colour monitors in them, he then will fit the commodore computer of your choice inside, he recommends the c128, but has done c64 and even a vic20, i have done similar things with other 8 bit machines and single board computers, i only have one rule, the donor has to be dead i wont chop a working classic.
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