A Controversial Batman Twist May Occur In Joker Film
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Don't talk like one of them, you're not! You're like me.
I've always thought that line seemed a little more complex than the service it was given on the surface. It always seemed like something one person of privilege would say to another. Like something an older brother of royalty would say to his naive younger brother.
You won't kill me out of some misplaced morality and I, I won't kill you because you're just so much fun.
Also seems like a line that was written with innuendo and complexity. A complete and total insane madman enthralled in sending messages on psychological levels, won't kill Batman: the symbol?
I know these lines were written with the intent and presumptions that Batman and joker entangle multiple times throughout their careers, but overall it really does fit that they're closely related. Aside from Thomas being so young and Arthur being so old, I honestly think it fits the mythology almost as well as hand-in-glove.
Date: 2020-07-14
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Spencer
Actually - Jack Napier was the name given to Jack Nicholson's character by Sam Hamm and Warren Skarren in Tim Burton's Batman.
And the events told in flashback in The Killing Joke were confirmed in the storyline 'Hush Returns' in the chapter titled 'Payback' when we see Joker over a memento case with pictures of his deceased wife Jeanine. Also the Bonus Brothers Carnival that he takes over in The Killing Joke to torture Jim Gordon has made appearances since the Killing Joke. such as in the aforementioned 'Hush Returns' (compleat with the resident 'freaks') and most recently in Doomsday Clock when Ozymandias, Rorschach II, Marionette, and The Mime land there from the 'Watchmen' universe including several panels that echo scenes from the Killing Joke.
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Actually - Jack Napier was the name given to Jack Nicholson's character by Sam Hamm and Warren Skarren in Tim Burton's Batman.
And the events told in flashback in The Killing Joke were confirmed in the storyline 'Hush Returns' in the chapter titled 'Payback' when we see Joker over a memento case with pictures of his deceased wife Jeanine. Also the Bonus Brothers Carnival that he takes over in The Killing Joke to torture Jim Gordon has made appearances since the Killing Joke. such as in the aforementioned 'Hush Returns' (compleat with the resident 'freaks') and most recently in Doomsday Clock when Ozymandias, Rorschach II, Marionette, and The Mime land there from the 'Watchmen' universe including several panels that echo scenes from the Killing Joke.
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chris
What if theres a way to keep Joaquin, Leto, Ben Afflect & Robert Pattinson in the DCEU.
1. Wonder Woman crosses path with both Joker & young Bruce Wayne in the 80s (Wonder Woman 84 may juz link up well)
2. The new younger Batman to be played by Robert Pattinson wil be set in the 90s & will be up against Joaquins Joker
3. Fast forward to the 2000s, Joker got to Robins head (Jared Leto) n made him his understudy (Jokes on you written all over Robins suit in Batman vs Superman)
4. Jared Leto will now be the new Joker going up against Batflect
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What if theres a way to keep Joaquin, Leto, Ben Afflect & Robert Pattinson in the DCEU.
1. Wonder Woman crosses path with both Joker & young Bruce Wayne in the 80s (Wonder Woman 84 may juz link up well)
2. The new younger Batman to be played by Robert Pattinson wil be set in the 90s & will be up against Joaquins Joker
3. Fast forward to the 2000s, Joker got to Robins head (Jared Leto) n made him his understudy (Jokes on you written all over Robins suit in Batman vs Superman)
4. Jared Leto will now be the new Joker going up against Batflect
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Azhraeya
I love it. Batman never kills The Joker and always just puts him away. The reason why: The Joker is his half older brother. There is some deep connection to the psyche of Batman that makes him not want to kill his arch nemesis. In this version of The Joker, he caused a riot that resulted in the death of Bruce Wayne's parents. That is why we see him forming a smile on young Bruce Wayne's face.
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I love it. Batman never kills The Joker and always just puts him away. The reason why: The Joker is his half older brother. There is some deep connection to the psyche of Batman that makes him not want to kill his arch nemesis. In this version of The Joker, he caused a riot that resulted in the death of Bruce Wayne's parents. That is why we see him forming a smile on young Bruce Wayne's face.
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drakalitiz
What I've read said that later its revealed that they AREN'T brothers and that his mothers boyfriend abused him as a child but she never cared to stop him so he goes and murders her in arham asylum so i guess in the trailer towards the end when hes walking in a white corridor being serious and holding the flowers hes actually heading to kill his mother in the room shes in thats my guess
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What I've read said that later its revealed that they AREN'T brothers and that his mothers boyfriend abused him as a child but she never cared to stop him so he goes and murders her in arham asylum so i guess in the trailer towards the end when hes walking in a white corridor being serious and holding the flowers hes actually heading to kill his mother in the room shes in thats my guess
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alex
Joker is a clown and many people affraid the clowns thats why joker hasnt got a real origin story cause they create him as a villain that his actions makes him who he is! It doesnt matter how it was his origin story it matters what he will do in his stories!
The only clue we had is it took him one bad day to become the joker. Btw in flashpoint the joker was Batmans mother
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Joker is a clown and many people affraid the clowns thats why joker hasnt got a real origin story cause they create him as a villain that his actions makes him who he is! It doesnt matter how it was his origin story it matters what he will do in his stories!
The only clue we had is it took him one bad day to become the joker. Btw in flashpoint the joker was Batmans mother
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nomnom
Meh, I liked it when Joker's history was a mystery to some length. No disrespect to the upcoming movie, I'm sure people will love it or hate it but I don't like slow burn character study type movies. I don't mind the twist with Batman but it adds more questions than answers, wasn't also necessary IMO but that's just my 2 cents.
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Meh, I liked it when Joker's history was a mystery to some length. No disrespect to the upcoming movie, I'm sure people will love it or hate it but I don't like slow burn character study type movies. I don't mind the twist with Batman but it adds more questions than answers, wasn't also necessary IMO but that's just my 2 cents.
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George
We've known for a while (WE did) that Cullen's Thomas Wayne was going to be depicted as a more antagonistic character than most movie-goers might expect, considering previous incarnations of Batman's dad. And the plot twist even makes sense from a casting standpoint while showing Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne Um, what?
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We've known for a while (WE did) that Cullen's Thomas Wayne was going to be depicted as a more antagonistic character than most movie-goers might expect, considering previous incarnations of Batman's dad. And the plot twist even makes sense from a casting standpoint while showing Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne Um, what?
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Tyrell
I dont see anything wrong with this honestly. It's an amazing twist and it's not like this story is following the original story completely. There was even once a comic story when Bane and Batman were thought to of been actual brothers. DC has the multiverse, these things are possible.
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I dont see anything wrong with this honestly. It's an amazing twist and it's not like this story is following the original story completely. There was even once a comic story when Bane and Batman were thought to of been actual brothers. DC has the multiverse, these things are possible.
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RM
I think Cameron Monaghan is currently one of the best Actors to play a Joker in the next Batman Movie with Robert Pattinson.
Because he plays so many great different Mr. J (JOKER) variations in the Gotham series and the age would fit. Maybe with Joaquin Phoenix as his Father HaHaAhAAAA
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I think Cameron Monaghan is currently one of the best Actors to play a Joker in the next Batman Movie with Robert Pattinson.
Because he plays so many great different Mr. J (JOKER) variations in the Gotham series and the age would fit. Maybe with Joaquin Phoenix as his Father HaHaAhAAAA
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