The Ending Of Once Upon A Time In Hollywood Explained
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Date: 2020-07-14
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Sean
Disclaimer: this does not necessarily represent my views in real life, it is only my interpretation of the movie. Anyone else also get a sort of anit-capitalist, almost Marxist vibe? Cliff is obviously a working class man, living out of a trailer in an oil yard, but is best friends with a wealthy, famous actor rick. Cliff is forever loyal to rick in good times and bad but rick rarely does anything for cliff. Cliff even takes the brunt of some of ricks mistakes like at the end when we took the knife in the side after rick pissed off the hippies. Then when they come back from Italy after rick made a ton of money and had some cash in his pocket, rick fires cliff citing money as an issue even though thats not true. Even after being drop cliff is indebted to rick and saves his life from the hippies. After that when asked if everyone is ok by the actor nextdoor rick only mentions himself, and his wife being ok, but nothing about cliff getting stabbed. Rick then goes on to enjoy himself a night of partying and drinks. To me, rick represents the wealthy 1% who needs the working class to get where the are. Cliff represents the working class who is enslaved to the 1% and will always be loyal to them. The hippies are the proletariat who revolt, but are quickly shut down by the loyal working class that is cliff.
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Disclaimer: this does not necessarily represent my views in real life, it is only my interpretation of the movie. Anyone else also get a sort of anit-capitalist, almost Marxist vibe? Cliff is obviously a working class man, living out of a trailer in an oil yard, but is best friends with a wealthy, famous actor rick. Cliff is forever loyal to rick in good times and bad but rick rarely does anything for cliff. Cliff even takes the brunt of some of ricks mistakes like at the end when we took the knife in the side after rick pissed off the hippies. Then when they come back from Italy after rick made a ton of money and had some cash in his pocket, rick fires cliff citing money as an issue even though thats not true. Even after being drop cliff is indebted to rick and saves his life from the hippies. After that when asked if everyone is ok by the actor nextdoor rick only mentions himself, and his wife being ok, but nothing about cliff getting stabbed. Rick then goes on to enjoy himself a night of partying and drinks. To me, rick represents the wealthy 1% who needs the working class to get where the are. Cliff represents the working class who is enslaved to the 1% and will always be loyal to them. The hippies are the proletariat who revolt, but are quickly shut down by the loyal working class that is cliff.
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Chad
It's not a bad movie in my opinion, I get the undertone of what he's trying to say and it was really funny at times, acting was great, the setting and insight to behind the scenes was fun but with that said I feel like this was a movie for him and his friends not the audience, it's a nod to everyone he works with and I don't hate the twist ending it just felt a little lack luster after watching the build up for so long, it's like reading an entire novel just to find out at the end that it was all a dream which. in a way is Hollywood in a nutshell so 8/10 for me but it's a film that feels like your missing out on an inside joke but both this and hateful 8 flip the bad guy narrative on its head, it's peculiar we find murder okay as long as the bad guy is the one that dies
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It's not a bad movie in my opinion, I get the undertone of what he's trying to say and it was really funny at times, acting was great, the setting and insight to behind the scenes was fun but with that said I feel like this was a movie for him and his friends not the audience, it's a nod to everyone he works with and I don't hate the twist ending it just felt a little lack luster after watching the build up for so long, it's like reading an entire novel just to find out at the end that it was all a dream which. in a way is Hollywood in a nutshell so 8/10 for me but it's a film that feels like your missing out on an inside joke but both this and hateful 8 flip the bad guy narrative on its head, it's peculiar we find murder okay as long as the bad guy is the one that dies
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adm712
For me the key characters in the movie the 8 year old girl and Cliff. Both kind of live outside the box of the cultural influences of the time and to the beat of their own drum. Rick is depressed and stressed out by the demands the culture has placed on him regarding his career. He meets the 8 year old girl on the movie set and learns to view the world in the context of her eyes (the same way Cliff and Sharon Tate function. The Manson followers are a by product of the dark aspect of the hippy culture who are that way because of (hatred) societal influence. In the end, its the characters that reject cultural trappings (Rick and Cliff) are triumphant. This films message is relevant in the world of 2020 even though it is set in 1969
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For me the key characters in the movie the 8 year old girl and Cliff. Both kind of live outside the box of the cultural influences of the time and to the beat of their own drum. Rick is depressed and stressed out by the demands the culture has placed on him regarding his career. He meets the 8 year old girl on the movie set and learns to view the world in the context of her eyes (the same way Cliff and Sharon Tate function. The Manson followers are a by product of the dark aspect of the hippy culture who are that way because of (hatred) societal influence. In the end, its the characters that reject cultural trappings (Rick and Cliff) are triumphant. This films message is relevant in the world of 2020 even though it is set in 1969
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JACK
it wasnt even close to accurate regarding the real thing. squeaky fromm wasnt even there when shaorn tate died. how does ignoring the plight of a victim make anything better though. this was real and tragic i guess to avoid cashing in but the movie suffers. it builds to nothing and wastes fifteen of the last 45 minutes just showing sharon selfishly watching her own movie with her feet on a chair. this was no feminist movie either. he takes the feminists and hits them with a flamethrower will the vapid american any guys blow up doll is rewarded in a way that honestly means nothing. the best way to deal with an issue is not avoidance. the ending sucked.
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it wasnt even close to accurate regarding the real thing. squeaky fromm wasnt even there when shaorn tate died. how does ignoring the plight of a victim make anything better though. this was real and tragic i guess to avoid cashing in but the movie suffers. it builds to nothing and wastes fifteen of the last 45 minutes just showing sharon selfishly watching her own movie with her feet on a chair. this was no feminist movie either. he takes the feminists and hits them with a flamethrower will the vapid american any guys blow up doll is rewarded in a way that honestly means nothing. the best way to deal with an issue is not avoidance. the ending sucked.
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fanjoy
IMO the entire movie was just character development / a background story secondary to the tate murder not happening. he needed to create an extremely strong storyline with very interesting characters in order to make changing a historic event believable and seamless. the eerie part was is when he's standing in the driveway telling one of the victims about what happened, then he is invited up and greeted by the rest of the victims and continues to tell them what's happened. that was an absolutely brilliant and beautiful homage to the victims, including roman polanski.
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IMO the entire movie was just character development / a background story secondary to the tate murder not happening. he needed to create an extremely strong storyline with very interesting characters in order to make changing a historic event believable and seamless. the eerie part was is when he's standing in the driveway telling one of the victims about what happened, then he is invited up and greeted by the rest of the victims and continues to tell them what's happened. that was an absolutely brilliant and beautiful homage to the victims, including roman polanski.
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Stavros
I can't really understand how the last 20 minutes were funny or satisfying. The killings were graphic and brutal and yet people on the theater seemed to be laughing at it. I also just can't understand how after everything that took place, Rick could just as easily greet with the neighbors like nothing had happened. I guess that was Rick's vanity since he always wanted to get to know them.
Tarantino tried to give catharsis to an actual gruesome incident and he did it in his own typical but (to me, at least) unethical way.
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I can't really understand how the last 20 minutes were funny or satisfying. The killings were graphic and brutal and yet people on the theater seemed to be laughing at it. I also just can't understand how after everything that took place, Rick could just as easily greet with the neighbors like nothing had happened. I guess that was Rick's vanity since he always wanted to get to know them.
Tarantino tried to give catharsis to an actual gruesome incident and he did it in his own typical but (to me, at least) unethical way.
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Doomsday
For some reason, I felt like the kitchen scenes with Pitt and the dog were in a guest house of actor Rick Dalton's larger estate in the Hills. Which, made me wonder about the final scene and why Francesca would be in the guest house with Cliff Booth. Were Cliff and Francesca having an affair? Were Cliff and Rick Swingers? Was Rick gay and Cliff watch this back and was actually Francesca's boyfriend? If that was the kitchen to the main house and Cliff lived in the main house with Rick, this can all be disregarded.
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For some reason, I felt like the kitchen scenes with Pitt and the dog were in a guest house of actor Rick Dalton's larger estate in the Hills. Which, made me wonder about the final scene and why Francesca would be in the guest house with Cliff Booth. Were Cliff and Francesca having an affair? Were Cliff and Rick Swingers? Was Rick gay and Cliff watch this back and was actually Francesca's boyfriend? If that was the kitchen to the main house and Cliff lived in the main house with Rick, this can all be disregarded.
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Dr.
Remember, Rick torched a woman to death, in Once upon, Mansion family members or not, ( & since, Watson & friends, die doesn't it stand that the public, interrupt their break-in as merely a robbery, & not a hit-squad ) So, Rick should have been looking at some very serious legal-ramification's after that night. Not celebrity, after killing some stoned-out hippie robber's. And, wouldn't that leave Manson, looking for revenge, & have, Helter Skelter, just kill some other group of. People, a little-bit later!
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Remember, Rick torched a woman to death, in Once upon, Mansion family members or not, ( & since, Watson & friends, die doesn't it stand that the public, interrupt their break-in as merely a robbery, & not a hit-squad ) So, Rick should have been looking at some very serious legal-ramification's after that night. Not celebrity, after killing some stoned-out hippie robber's. And, wouldn't that leave Manson, looking for revenge, & have, Helter Skelter, just kill some other group of. People, a little-bit later!
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Dr.
Even you, yourself admit that Sharon Tate was a 2-bit actress who's biggest claim to fame was, Valley of the doll's ( garbage) & a bit-part in a Matt Helm, movie. She was hardly Julie Christie, or Vanessa Redgrave. It. doesn't mean it's ok to slaughter, the actress, sense-lessly, & her unborn baby of course, but if she had'nt died that night, in that grisly fashion, very few people in 2019, would even remember her. And, her marriage to Polanski was on the skid's anyway.
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Even you, yourself admit that Sharon Tate was a 2-bit actress who's biggest claim to fame was, Valley of the doll's ( garbage) & a bit-part in a Matt Helm, movie. She was hardly Julie Christie, or Vanessa Redgrave. It. doesn't mean it's ok to slaughter, the actress, sense-lessly, & her unborn baby of course, but if she had'nt died that night, in that grisly fashion, very few people in 2019, would even remember her. And, her marriage to Polanski was on the skid's anyway.
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