Dawn of War III - Eldar GAMEPLAY & Developer Commentary!
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Date: 2023-12-10
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\/\/\/ Personal opinionated internet rant below \/\/\/ - enjoy.
The only thing that actually looks good here is the models themselves along with their particle effects and abilities. Not the scale (space marines are meant to be a bit bigger than elder, not the voices/lines from units (why does the Wraithlord sound like something out of Starcraft or some characters I play in League of Legends, only the look; the look was done well. The map creations are not bad but are not appreciated because of the dumb color outlines on the units when selected (there's a reason why all highlighted units the player wants to move only have those light colored circles at the base touching the ground with them. It's so emphasis towards the detail of the models themselves isn't taken away. That's a bit of a nit-picky thing but it does matter. The user interface is frustratingly terrible and reminds me of Starcraft. Not that Starcraft's one was bad but the one being shown is not original and nothing is color differentiated to give a straight up clear understanding of what each button indicates without a player having to first hover over almost everything so they know they're not missing a vital piece info towards what something may be capable of/what the ability/button may do. (you get what I mean, the buttons for the UI are just not distinguished or well done enough)
There are just several things going on that are wrong that dozens of other people/fans are going to notice straight up which will act as barriers towards particular aspects of the game that had previously been highly valued/enjoyed and respected.
Which is something that bothers me when this annoying developer displays absolutely no appreciation for the consideration of how the DOW franchise is meant to be displayed and treated as a truly original piece of game creation/work. (besides the fact that it is a RTS of course)
Like why is there no feeling of --this is wrong-- towards their senses both now and perhaps during the creation of the game entirely. In my opinion I do not class this representation as an acceptable bearer worthy of the DOW 3 title. Which is very frustrating since the game bared so much weight and responsibility it demanded to be treated with care. I know a group of fans that could produce better given time.
It's a sad thing to see that the biggest upset of this game may have been the time given to create something worthy of the title of DOW 3. I was shocked to see that a group may have pulled it off due to the great direction and vibe the trailer was giving off (especially towards the end. But for only 3 races and even some particular models from those races being missed out it's an absolute disappointment once everything is factored and taken into consideration.
It does not deliver. Fans expectations during this day and age want the DOW experience that it has always needed to be. An improvement of DOW 1 and 2 combined featuring apocalypse sized battles with every race and every unit from that respected race. A game of that stature would be an achievement for both the DOW franchise and world gaming industry as a whole. Obviously due to time, the right people, the complexity and just size/feet such a game would need to take would be incredibly considerable. I just don't like it when others that don't understand accept such low quality standards in an industry where they don't consider gaming to be something taken seriously.
- In all honesty though this should all be taken as just food for thought really. I just don't consider what I'm seeing so far to be at the standard of what everyone who has played the previous games franchise to be at. -
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\/\/\/ Personal opinionated internet rant below \/\/\/ - enjoy.
The only thing that actually looks good here is the models themselves along with their particle effects and abilities. Not the scale (space marines are meant to be a bit bigger than elder, not the voices/lines from units (why does the Wraithlord sound like something out of Starcraft or some characters I play in League of Legends, only the look; the look was done well. The map creations are not bad but are not appreciated because of the dumb color outlines on the units when selected (there's a reason why all highlighted units the player wants to move only have those light colored circles at the base touching the ground with them. It's so emphasis towards the detail of the models themselves isn't taken away. That's a bit of a nit-picky thing but it does matter. The user interface is frustratingly terrible and reminds me of Starcraft. Not that Starcraft's one was bad but the one being shown is not original and nothing is color differentiated to give a straight up clear understanding of what each button indicates without a player having to first hover over almost everything so they know they're not missing a vital piece info towards what something may be capable of/what the ability/button may do. (you get what I mean, the buttons for the UI are just not distinguished or well done enough)
There are just several things going on that are wrong that dozens of other people/fans are going to notice straight up which will act as barriers towards particular aspects of the game that had previously been highly valued/enjoyed and respected.
Which is something that bothers me when this annoying developer displays absolutely no appreciation for the consideration of how the DOW franchise is meant to be displayed and treated as a truly original piece of game creation/work. (besides the fact that it is a RTS of course)
Like why is there no feeling of --this is wrong-- towards their senses both now and perhaps during the creation of the game entirely. In my opinion I do not class this representation as an acceptable bearer worthy of the DOW 3 title. Which is very frustrating since the game bared so much weight and responsibility it demanded to be treated with care. I know a group of fans that could produce better given time.
It's a sad thing to see that the biggest upset of this game may have been the time given to create something worthy of the title of DOW 3. I was shocked to see that a group may have pulled it off due to the great direction and vibe the trailer was giving off (especially towards the end. But for only 3 races and even some particular models from those races being missed out it's an absolute disappointment once everything is factored and taken into consideration.
It does not deliver. Fans expectations during this day and age want the DOW experience that it has always needed to be. An improvement of DOW 1 and 2 combined featuring apocalypse sized battles with every race and every unit from that respected race. A game of that stature would be an achievement for both the DOW franchise and world gaming industry as a whole. Obviously due to time, the right people, the complexity and just size/feet such a game would need to take would be incredibly considerable. I just don't like it when others that don't understand accept such low quality standards in an industry where they don't consider gaming to be something taken seriously.
- In all honesty though this should all be taken as just food for thought really. I just don't consider what I'm seeing so far to be at the standard of what everyone who has played the previous games franchise to be at. -
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-hideshisface1886
I never thought I would live to see Warhammer 40k looking like a bloody Starcraft clone.
Don't get me wrong, I love Starcraft but it is NOT what I expect from DoW game.
Besides. Isn't it ironic? All the unique gameplay elements from DoW series are gone:
Heavily customizable squads? Gone. Cover system? Gone. Sync kills and dynamic squad movement? Gone.
Instead, DoW looks like a game belonging to a series that is effectively a Warhammer 40k rip off. The irony is astounding. Eldar even got personal shields to mimic Protos in this one.
Sweet Emperor.
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I never thought I would live to see Warhammer 40k looking like a bloody Starcraft clone.
Don't get me wrong, I love Starcraft but it is NOT what I expect from DoW game.
Besides. Isn't it ironic? All the unique gameplay elements from DoW series are gone:
Heavily customizable squads? Gone. Cover system? Gone. Sync kills and dynamic squad movement? Gone.
Instead, DoW looks like a game belonging to a series that is effectively a Warhammer 40k rip off. The irony is astounding. Eldar even got personal shields to mimic Protos in this one.
Sweet Emperor.
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-PriestofWar42
This game kinda doesn't feel like Dawn of War to me. It's got kind of a bouncy, cartoony thing going on. It's almost reminiscent of a Blizzard game. Like if they ever did a Warcraft 4, I imagine the overall feel of the game to be something like this. It's like it's some kind of arena game. I'm not really getting that grim & dark for some reason. And the Space Marines look a bit goofy. Their proportion seem a bit off I think. But the new abilities that I've seen look really cool.
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This game kinda doesn't feel like Dawn of War to me. It's got kind of a bouncy, cartoony thing going on. It's almost reminiscent of a Blizzard game. Like if they ever did a Warcraft 4, I imagine the overall feel of the game to be something like this. It's like it's some kind of arena game. I'm not really getting that grim & dark for some reason. And the Space Marines look a bit goofy. Their proportion seem a bit off I think. But the new abilities that I've seen look really cool.
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polygon
this really doesn't look promising but what the hell it's a dow title so of course i will get it. I loved DoW2 and it's fast game play, and I greatly enjoyed the dow 1 titles even winter assault. but that being said winter assault still looks better than this game here, and also why are their only three factions? space marines, orks, and Eldar this is just a shameful display
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this really doesn't look promising but what the hell it's a dow title so of course i will get it. I loved DoW2 and it's fast game play, and I greatly enjoyed the dow 1 titles even winter assault. but that being said winter assault still looks better than this game here, and also why are their only three factions? space marines, orks, and Eldar this is just a shameful display
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-7F0X7
This looks like cartoony and lazy early-xbox360 graphics with such boring MOBA-esque bland gameplay. And the director sounded like a sniveling tool. He had so little passion and sounded like he never even hear of the lore until he started working on the game. I'll stick to total war: warhammer until someone finally makes a proper 40k strat game for the modern era.
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This looks like cartoony and lazy early-xbox360 graphics with such boring MOBA-esque bland gameplay. And the director sounded like a sniveling tool. He had so little passion and sounded like he never even hear of the lore until he started working on the game. I'll stick to total war: warhammer until someone finally makes a proper 40k strat game for the modern era.
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-Craward
> Yeah we're making this games for a long time.
. and you guys still have a little idea about what W40K is about.
Funny to hear about -lore- after many screwups in Relic's games, especially in Spacemarine.
14 years god dammit and it's same shit again and again.
At least Relic can't change DoW1 & 2, so everyone can still play it.
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> Yeah we're making this games for a long time.
. and you guys still have a little idea about what W40K is about.
Funny to hear about -lore- after many screwups in Relic's games, especially in Spacemarine.
14 years god dammit and it's same shit again and again.
At least Relic can't change DoW1 & 2, so everyone can still play it.
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-natku1
I don't know why people are hating this game before it even comes out. I think it looks different in a good way, I'll enjoy it. I just hope there are more animations for units, some melee attacks look kinda strange. But other than that, the knockbacks, the blood and corpses not disappearing and base building, oh boy. I'm happy it is like DoW 1.
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I don't know why people are hating this game before it even comes out. I think it looks different in a good way, I'll enjoy it. I just hope there are more animations for units, some melee attacks look kinda strange. But other than that, the knockbacks, the blood and corpses not disappearing and base building, oh boy. I'm happy it is like DoW 1.
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polygon
I think that the modding community should further evolve the previous game, dow 2 retribution, add races etc. There is this mod called codex edition. I think this should be the base for further developement. I say this, because no matter how much I want, I simply can't like this new dawn of war, it's for the non affiliated.
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I think that the modding community should further evolve the previous game, dow 2 retribution, add races etc. There is this mod called codex edition. I think this should be the base for further developement. I say this, because no matter how much I want, I simply can't like this new dawn of war, it's for the non affiliated.
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-thurguud
Played every DoW out there, not going to play this one.
-Nailed the tone of the universe- Most comment complain about the tone of the universe.
-Eldar are not space elves- Yes, that is exactly what they are.
-All eldar are warriors- No, they are not, read the lore if you want to talk about it.
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Played every DoW out there, not going to play this one.
-Nailed the tone of the universe- Most comment complain about the tone of the universe.
-Eldar are not space elves- Yes, that is exactly what they are.
-All eldar are warriors- No, they are not, read the lore if you want to talk about it.
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-MegaBigmac87
it does look too cartoony, that is a shame, wish it had beefed up DOW 2 graphics. this game looks less n less apealling the more i see it. but im still buying day 1, been waiting for another DOW for too long. who knows, this could actually be a good game, only 17 missions between 3 races, that SUCKS
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it does look too cartoony, that is a shame, wish it had beefed up DOW 2 graphics. this game looks less n less apealling the more i see it. but im still buying day 1, been waiting for another DOW for too long. who knows, this could actually be a good game, only 17 missions between 3 races, that SUCKS
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-BolisStewie
I thought that the creators were gonna made a new warhammer strategy game like the old warhammers and i said this is the only game that i will play (because i quit playing videogames from 1 year) because i love warhammer 40k but they disrespected us with this joke, what a bunch of virgins nerds
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I thought that the creators were gonna made a new warhammer strategy game like the old warhammers and i said this is the only game that i will play (because i quit playing videogames from 1 year) because i love warhammer 40k but they disrespected us with this joke, what a bunch of virgins nerds
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-Fraust66
So Relic are making Dawn Of Warcraft 3 in space with Arthas in full terminator warplate leaping twenty feet in the air twirling a warhammer like a band baton & a garish pyrotechnic firework display that causes arc eye (Photokeratitis) for extra added clarity.
So button awesome!
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So Relic are making Dawn Of Warcraft 3 in space with Arthas in full terminator warplate leaping twenty feet in the air twirling a warhammer like a band baton & a garish pyrotechnic firework display that causes arc eye (Photokeratitis) for extra added clarity.
So button awesome!
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-vidswsuds4879
This isn't my take. Can't remember who it came from but please lose the silhouette selection thing going on with units. I want to see the character models and having them outlined takes away from that. Just put a circle under their feet or something else.
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This isn't my take. Can't remember who it came from but please lose the silhouette selection thing going on with units. I want to see the character models and having them outlined takes away from that. Just put a circle under their feet or something else.
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-adriandeveraaa
Just got warhammer End Times and it was my first game of the series. I love it. Getting into lore. I never got into WarHammer before because games with so many titles and varying game genres make me nervous as to how successful they really were
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Just got warhammer End Times and it was my first game of the series. I love it. Getting into lore. I never got into WarHammer before because games with so many titles and varying game genres make me nervous as to how successful they really were
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-Falorik
The animations of the units are SO BAD. That comic graphics is terrible. Units don't feel unique anymore, its just all soulless canon fodder. No more cover or retreat or unit skills. Just A-move gameplay. Looks so terrible
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The animations of the units are SO BAD. That comic graphics is terrible. Units don't feel unique anymore, its just all soulless canon fodder. No more cover or retreat or unit skills. Just A-move gameplay. Looks so terrible
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-fustah86
The trailer tone and the gameplay tone do not match. It makes you wonder where they went wrong. Its funny that such an established franchise can't get a decent game these days. Devs missed the boat big time on this.
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The trailer tone and the gameplay tone do not match. It makes you wonder where they went wrong. Its funny that such an established franchise can't get a decent game these days. Devs missed the boat big time on this.
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-illumin4t152
somehow i dont like the shadow specter units, what happend to the dragon fighter aspect as anti tank unit? or did even games workshop cut them out of the lore? i am not up to date what the codex says
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somehow i dont like the shadow specter units, what happend to the dragon fighter aspect as anti tank unit? or did even games workshop cut them out of the lore? i am not up to date what the codex says
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polygon
Lol Kermit the frog is trying to give me his obviously well know knowledge on Wh40k and I'm just rolling in my chair laughing. This game looks more cartoony than the first one lol.
Pathetic
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Lol Kermit the frog is trying to give me his obviously well know knowledge on Wh40k and I'm just rolling in my chair laughing. This game looks more cartoony than the first one lol.
Pathetic
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-smokingowly3607
dont get the hate. I thin it look awesome. More like the first dawn of war which is nice. More effects each unit can do. Knights and wraithknights, all in all a nice combination.
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dont get the hate. I thin it look awesome. More like the first dawn of war which is nice. More effects each unit can do. Knights and wraithknights, all in all a nice combination.
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-MrPiccolop
ok. I've been critical of DOW3 like a lot of people. but its not looking that bad. they've obviously touched up on the whole garishness of the early demos. hmm. maybe. just maybe?
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ok. I've been critical of DOW3 like a lot of people. but its not looking that bad. they've obviously touched up on the whole garishness of the early demos. hmm. maybe. just maybe?
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-VidZero
These -journalists- sucking the developer's banana is why we have been getting crappier and crappier 40k games lately. Idiot actually said they -nailed- the tone. What a buffoon.
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These -journalists- sucking the developer's banana is why we have been getting crappier and crappier 40k games lately. Idiot actually said they -nailed- the tone. What a buffoon.
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-sombretoy
Make weak Eldar like always, their energy advance weapond did't have much damage but plasma rifles of space marine beat any infatry weapons which Eldar have.
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Make weak Eldar like always, their energy advance weapond did't have much damage but plasma rifles of space marine beat any infatry weapons which Eldar have.
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-Atrahasis7
Holy shit they really turned this into Starcraft. Now I miss Old Relic
entertainment grasp of aesthetics for 40k. Those animations are Moba
worthy.
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Holy shit they really turned this into Starcraft. Now I miss Old Relic
entertainment grasp of aesthetics for 40k. Those animations are Moba
worthy.
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-woollster00
This is going to fail, nobody wants this game and I don't know why it's being created, you should of just brought out some new races and maps for dow 2
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This is going to fail, nobody wants this game and I don't know why it's being created, you should of just brought out some new races and maps for dow 2
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-MrMLaidlaw
Round Robin Campaign with 3 races? Neat idea but I do not know how I feel about being forced to play each race but none with their own -full campaign-.
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Round Robin Campaign with 3 races? Neat idea but I do not know how I feel about being forced to play each race but none with their own -full campaign-.
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-KellyShorts
I wonder what Chaos will look like in this game? I wonder how one could possibly ruin the brutally evil and oppressive style of Chaos Space Marines.
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I wonder what Chaos will look like in this game? I wonder how one could possibly ruin the brutally evil and oppressive style of Chaos Space Marines.
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-VOMITador98
combat looks boring and slow. time to kill any unit is ridiculously long. units stand there shooting at each other for ages. looks really silly
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combat looks boring and slow. time to kill any unit is ridiculously long. units stand there shooting at each other for ages. looks really silly
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-alatarxarxes2210
All i see is a bunch of salty, crying nerds who can't be happy that they get something at all.
Game looks great, get over it.
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All i see is a bunch of salty, crying nerds who can't be happy that they get something at all.
Game looks great, get over it.
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-darkj3di666
The Eldar are space elves, and therefore are lame. Even the Protoss lost their shine once I realized that they're basically elves. :(
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The Eldar are space elves, and therefore are lame. Even the Protoss lost their shine once I realized that they're basically elves. :(
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-wetukman
I hate the cartoon graphics, why can't the developers adapt from retribution I want a game that's not for people in the play ground
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I hate the cartoon graphics, why can't the developers adapt from retribution I want a game that's not for people in the play ground
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