AMD Ryzen 7 3800X vs. 3700X Review: Don't Waste the Money
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Date: 2020-05-06
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I m building my first PC on ibuypower. Just wanting to get max settings on any game I play, right now I m sticking with an RTX 2080 ryzen 7 3800x, would this be good enough? Or should I go with a ryzen 9 3900x for minecraft ray tracing & overall better performance? I m getting a be quiet! Dark rock slim CPU cooler, do I need liquid cooling or more fans, or would that be sufficient? And what is the difference between 2080 and 2080ti? Also, is it better to have your primary hard drive as a SD and my data hard drive as a HD, or should I make that one a SD as well? 1TB on each drive, all on an ASRock X570 Steel Legend motherboard. The biggest question is whether I should wait until Christmas sales or not! I really want a smooth gaming PC right now, but is it worth it to wait until there are holiday sales! Sorry for all the questions lol I want to make sure I m getting what s worth the money as well as making sure I don t have any issues with game performance
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I m building my first PC on ibuypower. Just wanting to get max settings on any game I play, right now I m sticking with an RTX 2080 ryzen 7 3800x, would this be good enough? Or should I go with a ryzen 9 3900x for minecraft ray tracing & overall better performance? I m getting a be quiet! Dark rock slim CPU cooler, do I need liquid cooling or more fans, or would that be sufficient? And what is the difference between 2080 and 2080ti? Also, is it better to have your primary hard drive as a SD and my data hard drive as a HD, or should I make that one a SD as well? 1TB on each drive, all on an ASRock X570 Steel Legend motherboard. The biggest question is whether I should wait until Christmas sales or not! I really want a smooth gaming PC right now, but is it worth it to wait until there are holiday sales! Sorry for all the questions lol I want to make sure I m getting what s worth the money as well as making sure I don t have any issues with game performance
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Raian
AMD should drop the 3600 and slide the product stack down making the 3600x 220-250, while replacing the 3700x with the 3800x for 350-360. The performance gains does not justify the cost for these other SKUs and this would simplify the product line for the consumer. The 3900x could be lowered to 499 as well. Now there is 150 separating all of the SKUs. EZPZ. Edit: I would prefer odd numbering for these chips also, i. e. 3500X, 3700X, and 3900X. This would be identifiable to grades of products from previous generations such as Intel. We shouldn't have to discern between four CPUs that step over one another where the cost is minuscule to performance gained at a price jump of 40 to 70 for each SKU.
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AMD should drop the 3600 and slide the product stack down making the 3600x 220-250, while replacing the 3700x with the 3800x for 350-360. The performance gains does not justify the cost for these other SKUs and this would simplify the product line for the consumer. The 3900x could be lowered to 499 as well. Now there is 150 separating all of the SKUs. EZPZ. Edit: I would prefer odd numbering for these chips also, i. e. 3500X, 3700X, and 3900X. This would be identifiable to grades of products from previous generations such as Intel. We shouldn't have to discern between four CPUs that step over one another where the cost is minuscule to performance gained at a price jump of 40 to 70 for each SKU.
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cnnw3929
I ended up with a 3700X because I run Adobe Premier Elements. Premier Elements is tough on just about any processor, in my experience. My old, reliable Intel i5 3570 just can't hack it. The r7 3500X is adequate, and quite a bit better at running the application than the r5 2700. Depending on my budget, I may upgrade to a 3950X rather than spend 50. 00 per month for a Premier Pro subscription. Sometimes, you have to think about the more powerful rototiller before you consider hiring someone else to do the garden at a significantly higher cost. Hence, the slightly more powerful processor to save a bit of money in the long run.
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I ended up with a 3700X because I run Adobe Premier Elements. Premier Elements is tough on just about any processor, in my experience. My old, reliable Intel i5 3570 just can't hack it. The r7 3500X is adequate, and quite a bit better at running the application than the r5 2700. Depending on my budget, I may upgrade to a 3950X rather than spend 50. 00 per month for a Premier Pro subscription. Sometimes, you have to think about the more powerful rototiller before you consider hiring someone else to do the garden at a significantly higher cost. Hence, the slightly more powerful processor to save a bit of money in the long run.
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bluesy92
Even overclocking, Siliconlottery lists the 100% stats as 4. 05ghz for the 3700, and 4. 2ghz on the 3800x, less than a 4% difference. In addition, a 4. 1ghz 3700x is listed at 73%, and a 4. 25ghz 3800x is listed at 53%, meaning you're more likely to get over 4. 05 on a 3700x than you are to get over 4. 2 on a 3800x, making that gain of less than 4% a best case scenario with a manual overclock. Real world, at reasonable voltages, a 3700x can break into that gap of 4. 05-4. 2ghz easier than a 3800x can break out of it. So, while it is technically better binned, both the stock, and overclocked differences are minimal.
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Even overclocking, Siliconlottery lists the 100% stats as 4. 05ghz for the 3700, and 4. 2ghz on the 3800x, less than a 4% difference. In addition, a 4. 1ghz 3700x is listed at 73%, and a 4. 25ghz 3800x is listed at 53%, meaning you're more likely to get over 4. 05 on a 3700x than you are to get over 4. 2 on a 3800x, making that gain of less than 4% a best case scenario with a manual overclock. Real world, at reasonable voltages, a 3700x can break into that gap of 4. 05-4. 2ghz easier than a 3800x can break out of it. So, while it is technically better binned, both the stock, and overclocked differences are minimal.
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Pet
As what I understand for specifically 3D modelling, higher base clock speed is preferable because it is an active process loaded on a single core. You're not going to ramp up the CPU (I'm not talking about manual overclocking but automatic turbo boosting) all the time while making assets because you might switch between applications like for referencing and editing comps. Blender rendering performance per se (where the overall speed of multiple cores is beneficial limited by increased temp) doesn't reflect the value of higher base clock speed which is the obvious difference between 3700X and 3800X. Fight me.
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As what I understand for specifically 3D modelling, higher base clock speed is preferable because it is an active process loaded on a single core. You're not going to ramp up the CPU (I'm not talking about manual overclocking but automatic turbo boosting) all the time while making assets because you might switch between applications like for referencing and editing comps. Blender rendering performance per se (where the overall speed of multiple cores is beneficial limited by increased temp) doesn't reflect the value of higher base clock speed which is the obvious difference between 3700X and 3800X. Fight me.
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Steffen
while these 2 cpus are great. if all you do is game, save even more money and get a 3600. honestly even when we see at the frame charts is really not far behind the 3700x and 3800x. really making the 3600 the best choice of the 3 for pure gaming purpose. it can even do streaming fine, tho at 720p. so i imagin if you want to do 1080p streaming ud need the 3700x the more costly 3900x. you really dont need all those cores for gaming. so if you arent gonna stream either. and just game, watch movies/series or voice chat, the small performance increase in gaming only does not validate a 3700x/3800x imo
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while these 2 cpus are great. if all you do is game, save even more money and get a 3600. honestly even when we see at the frame charts is really not far behind the 3700x and 3800x. really making the 3600 the best choice of the 3 for pure gaming purpose. it can even do streaming fine, tho at 720p. so i imagin if you want to do 1080p streaming ud need the 3700x the more costly 3900x. you really dont need all those cores for gaming. so if you arent gonna stream either. and just game, watch movies/series or voice chat, the small performance increase in gaming only does not validate a 3700x/3800x imo
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KM
I set up my ground up rig with a Ryzen 5 3600. when I look at all these stats. the R5 3600 is 6 fps or less (usually under 4 fps) in every single one of the game tests! compared to the 3700x and 3800x. In Civilization VI turn time test, it's less than 3 seconds difference. 36 compared to 33. 1. and I bought my chip for 180 new shipped. I know its 2 cores less but still, for ME, it was the best medium of cost and performance. I was strongly considering the 3700x or 3800x but I'm glad I did the 3600. Spent the extra cash on a better gpu and mobo! Super happy with set up.
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I set up my ground up rig with a Ryzen 5 3600. when I look at all these stats. the R5 3600 is 6 fps or less (usually under 4 fps) in every single one of the game tests! compared to the 3700x and 3800x. In Civilization VI turn time test, it's less than 3 seconds difference. 36 compared to 33. 1. and I bought my chip for 180 new shipped. I know its 2 cores less but still, for ME, it was the best medium of cost and performance. I was strongly considering the 3700x or 3800x but I'm glad I did the 3600. Spent the extra cash on a better gpu and mobo! Super happy with set up.
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JonsReef
Oops i wasted the money. not. The 3700x in microcenter was 330 the 3800x was on sale at 379. I paid 50 more big deal. I also got 30 off buying a x570 mobo. and because microcenter screwed up on a transaction i made the day prior and no one was helping me in the store i actually got my mobo for another 20 off and my memory for 30 off. so i ssved 256 lol. i got lucky. I paid 619. Ill sell my 2700x my x470 and ny flare x memory and get probly 400 so in the end i paid 220 for an upgrade
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Oops i wasted the money. not. The 3700x in microcenter was 330 the 3800x was on sale at 379. I paid 50 more big deal. I also got 30 off buying a x570 mobo. and because microcenter screwed up on a transaction i made the day prior and no one was helping me in the store i actually got my mobo for another 20 off and my memory for 30 off. so i ssved 256 lol. i got lucky. I paid 619. Ill sell my 2700x my x470 and ny flare x memory and get probly 400 so in the end i paid 220 for an upgrade
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falconers
I'm curious how this review fairs given that the 3800x has been found in vendors within 30-40 of the 3700x. I've found with the discounts with bundles, that drops the cost down 20-30. so within that margin, is the 3800x more approachable? The microcenter bundles make this a much more interesting comparison. I saw 3700x's flying off shelves in Xmas, and I went instead with the 30 more for the 3800x. I figure a binned CPU + some OC headroom doesn't hurt longer term.
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I'm curious how this review fairs given that the 3800x has been found in vendors within 30-40 of the 3700x. I've found with the discounts with bundles, that drops the cost down 20-30. so within that margin, is the 3800x more approachable? The microcenter bundles make this a much more interesting comparison. I saw 3700x's flying off shelves in Xmas, and I went instead with the 30 more for the 3800x. I figure a binned CPU + some OC headroom doesn't hurt longer term.
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John
7 months later and all this has become really weird. Just like the 3600x the 3800x had the problem that nobody wanted to buy them, instead opting for the 3600 and 3700x. After months of this prices for 3600x and 3800x have plummeted so far that sometimes there's only like a 20 bucks difference between a 3600/x and a 3700x/3800x. Now I'm sitting here unsure if I should pull the trigger on a 3800x at the price range of a 3700x.
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7 months later and all this has become really weird. Just like the 3600x the 3800x had the problem that nobody wanted to buy them, instead opting for the 3600 and 3700x. After months of this prices for 3600x and 3800x have plummeted so far that sometimes there's only like a 20 bucks difference between a 3600/x and a 3700x/3800x. Now I'm sitting here unsure if I should pull the trigger on a 3800x at the price range of a 3700x.
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