Tear-Down: Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC Thermal Solution
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Peter
Truthfully, I expected much more a half-ass job from Gigabyte. For Polaris and Vega I noticed that both Gigabyte and MSI didn't put in their best effort: MSI which reused its GTX 1060 heatsink for the RX 480 resulting in a noisy and hot card, Gigabyte its Vega-cards which were unstable out of the box (hence being priced so much lower in many countries, MSI their original GamingX RX 580 being noisy and hot compared to the cards from Sapphire and Asus. But this card seems to be fine. I expect the ASRock 5700 XT to be better, I know that the Red Devil will be a lot better, depending on the price I will probably buy one of those. A Sapphire Nitro makes a chance too but with 480/490 for just the Sapphire Pulse (around 450 for the ASRock which I expect to perform better, it has thick copper pipes and comparable fins of the heatsink, as long as they didn't screw up with the thermal contact) the prices would need to come down a lot! To be clear, Gigabyte still seems to put in less effort for AMD than for Nvidia but not nearly as bad as MSI this time.
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Truthfully, I expected much more a half-ass job from Gigabyte. For Polaris and Vega I noticed that both Gigabyte and MSI didn't put in their best effort: MSI which reused its GTX 1060 heatsink for the RX 480 resulting in a noisy and hot card, Gigabyte its Vega-cards which were unstable out of the box (hence being priced so much lower in many countries, MSI their original GamingX RX 580 being noisy and hot compared to the cards from Sapphire and Asus. But this card seems to be fine. I expect the ASRock 5700 XT to be better, I know that the Red Devil will be a lot better, depending on the price I will probably buy one of those. A Sapphire Nitro makes a chance too but with 480/490 for just the Sapphire Pulse (around 450 for the ASRock which I expect to perform better, it has thick copper pipes and comparable fins of the heatsink, as long as they didn't screw up with the thermal contact) the prices would need to come down a lot! To be clear, Gigabyte still seems to put in less effort for AMD than for Nvidia but not nearly as bad as MSI this time.
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Code
Thank you for the awesome video Steve. Graphics cards are the core of our company (drafting) and I hope other viewers see why purchasing the right card the first time does makes a big difference. Buying a 300 dollar Evoke just to realize the thermal pads are skimped on makes us think of how they likely skimped on discrete and surface-mount components. Is it good enough? .possibly - But if the Evoke card (or any card) fails due to thermal (incompetence, we wouldn't want to waste hard-earned cash on the same card again - so if we had bought the 500 Gigabyte board the first time, we wouldn't have had to spend 800 (total) just to have a functioning system - even more-so when you have to buy graphics cards in bulk like we do. This concept works with most electronics in the industry. It shows that one does get what they pay for by doing a little research first. :)
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Thank you for the awesome video Steve. Graphics cards are the core of our company (drafting) and I hope other viewers see why purchasing the right card the first time does makes a big difference. Buying a 300 dollar Evoke just to realize the thermal pads are skimped on makes us think of how they likely skimped on discrete and surface-mount components. Is it good enough? .possibly - But if the Evoke card (or any card) fails due to thermal (incompetence, we wouldn't want to waste hard-earned cash on the same card again - so if we had bought the 500 Gigabyte board the first time, we wouldn't have had to spend 800 (total) just to have a functioning system - even more-so when you have to buy graphics cards in bulk like we do. This concept works with most electronics in the industry. It shows that one does get what they pay for by doing a little research first. :)
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Boorock70
What's the point of making thicker cards instead of wider ones? Thick cards (more than 2-slots) are always occupying the PCIe slots below and cripple that overpriced motherboard. Not everybody is a 12yrs old gamer. We are not using this computers for gaming-only! We need those PCIe slots in order to mount other cards. Please STOP making 2. 5-3-slot GPUs! Also, wider and longer cards can adopt the standart (or thinner) 120mm fans, which will have the best cooling performance ever seen without the need of the bulky, heavy heatsinks. Just because of the increased surface area which will be cooled faster. Additionally they will be much more quieter and can be interchangeable. - Manufacturers are not doing this, cause nobody asked for it yet: (
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What's the point of making thicker cards instead of wider ones? Thick cards (more than 2-slots) are always occupying the PCIe slots below and cripple that overpriced motherboard. Not everybody is a 12yrs old gamer. We are not using this computers for gaming-only! We need those PCIe slots in order to mount other cards. Please STOP making 2. 5-3-slot GPUs! Also, wider and longer cards can adopt the standart (or thinner) 120mm fans, which will have the best cooling performance ever seen without the need of the bulky, heavy heatsinks. Just because of the increased surface area which will be cooled faster. Additionally they will be much more quieter and can be interchangeable. - Manufacturers are not doing this, cause nobody asked for it yet: (
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Jason
I got a Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC the other day, but the temps have me scratching my head. At stock I am hitting 84C core and 105C hot spot playing control in a well ventilated Air 540 case, the fans are at 46% with default curve in a 21C room. Idle temps, even if I manually change the curve so it is 30% fan at the lowest setting, idles at 45-46C. I ended up reseating the cooler with fresh paste, but temps stayed the same. I have to set the fans to at least 60% to have decent temps (75C core 95C hot spot) at stock clocks but it starts to get noisy at those speeds.
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I got a Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC the other day, but the temps have me scratching my head. At stock I am hitting 84C core and 105C hot spot playing control in a well ventilated Air 540 case, the fans are at 46% with default curve in a 21C room. Idle temps, even if I manually change the curve so it is 30% fan at the lowest setting, idles at 45-46C. I ended up reseating the cooler with fresh paste, but temps stayed the same. I have to set the fans to at least 60% to have decent temps (75C core 95C hot spot) at stock clocks but it starts to get noisy at those speeds.
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Richard
I will never buy another Gigabyte Graphics card. Not after the Windforce series where the fans would die rather quickly. 3 fans? Big deal. What about the quality of those fans? I've had more success with Sapphire cards personally as well as this Powercolor card I bought a long time ago (a Radeon HD 7870) that is still going strong. MSI, had some fans issues as well. When I ran a Bitcoin farm, the cards whose fans sucked the most were the Gigabyte cards. Maybe they've fixed that, at least I hope but I'm certainly not taking any chances.
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I will never buy another Gigabyte Graphics card. Not after the Windforce series where the fans would die rather quickly. 3 fans? Big deal. What about the quality of those fans? I've had more success with Sapphire cards personally as well as this Powercolor card I bought a long time ago (a Radeon HD 7870) that is still going strong. MSI, had some fans issues as well. When I ran a Bitcoin farm, the cards whose fans sucked the most were the Gigabyte cards. Maybe they've fixed that, at least I hope but I'm certainly not taking any chances.
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Ξανδρος
On the argument of flip-chips and cooling, i think a lot of people are leaving out that there's an entire pcb that the heat would have to pass through before reaching the pads. If is actually mattered, there would be vias specifically for heat dissipation, and considering nobody is designing cards like this, the thermal difference clearly doesn't matter enough for that design consideration. Basically the chips are designed to hot-box themselves with the pcb.
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On the argument of flip-chips and cooling, i think a lot of people are leaving out that there's an entire pcb that the heat would have to pass through before reaching the pads. If is actually mattered, there would be vias specifically for heat dissipation, and considering nobody is designing cards like this, the thermal difference clearly doesn't matter enough for that design consideration. Basically the chips are designed to hot-box themselves with the pcb.
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Raven
i dont know why none of the manufacturers design a backplate with some fins. even if the fins are only 1mm tall, anything is better than a flat surface, and can be art/design/cool looking too. But just having fins would prob serve some sort of thermal solution. I'd imagine even a 3rd party could jump on it, especially with the reference designs since regardless of mfg, the pcb layout matches, most important, the screw holes are the same.
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i dont know why none of the manufacturers design a backplate with some fins. even if the fins are only 1mm tall, anything is better than a flat surface, and can be art/design/cool looking too. But just having fins would prob serve some sort of thermal solution. I'd imagine even a 3rd party could jump on it, especially with the reference designs since regardless of mfg, the pcb layout matches, most important, the screw holes are the same.
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Martin
My gigabyte 5700xt hits 110c on the junction temp at 1130v and stays around 100c at 1050v with lower clocks, i literally removed the card from it's place with a riser cable to check temps without other components close to it and they remain the same, i just removed the backplate and unlike yours mine has/had a square thermal pad for the chip. Gonna try now to see how the temps go without the backplate. Could this have been a reason?
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My gigabyte 5700xt hits 110c on the junction temp at 1130v and stays around 100c at 1050v with lower clocks, i literally removed the card from it's place with a riser cable to check temps without other components close to it and they remain the same, i just removed the backplate and unlike yours mine has/had a square thermal pad for the chip. Gonna try now to see how the temps go without the backplate. Could this have been a reason?
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Peter
Am I the only viewer here who prefers to first see the tear-down and then the review? From the teardown we can conclude how well the card performs (temperature vs noise and noise and temperature vs. boost. I would like it if the teardown would be uploaded first if the videos are spread out for strategic (Youtube algorithm) reasons.
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Am I the only viewer here who prefers to first see the tear-down and then the review? From the teardown we can conclude how well the card performs (temperature vs noise and noise and temperature vs. boost. I would like it if the teardown would be uploaded first if the videos are spread out for strategic (Youtube algorithm) reasons.
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idoldissr
I've seen Buildzoid's commentary on the ASUS version of the RX 5700 XT and am interested in getting your input on that model, as well. He makes some pretty strong recommendations regarding its quality, which impressed me, as I was considering the purchase of a Sapphire Pulse; but, am angling toward the ASUS now. Thoughts?
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I've seen Buildzoid's commentary on the ASUS version of the RX 5700 XT and am interested in getting your input on that model, as well. He makes some pretty strong recommendations regarding its quality, which impressed me, as I was considering the purchase of a Sapphire Pulse; but, am angling toward the ASUS now. Thoughts?
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