AMD Threadripper 3970X Review: Premiere, Blender, Overclocking, & Thermal Benchmarks
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Richard
You really ought to separate the HEDT parts from the Mainstream parts in your rankings. If I'm in the market for a render machine, PCIe lanes for super fast storage also become important. There's no way I'd be looking at a mainstream Intel or AMD part for that sort of build. Overclocked results shouldn't be posted either. They should be relegated to an overclocking section in your video near the end or something. Folks that work, can't be bothered fiddling with vCore and other settings when their machine decides to one day no longer be stable at a given overclock due to a rise in the ambient temperature in the office. The way it is now, I have to constantly pause the video to make sense out of which part is which. Just a suggestion as I had to go elsewhere to get an actual review and be able to compare the HEDT parts without having the same part figure multiple times in the same graph at different overclocked frequencies and a bunch of mainstream parts thrown in for god knows what reason. What I'm suggesting is as logical as your reasoning for not focusing on gaming benchmarks for HEDT parts.
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You really ought to separate the HEDT parts from the Mainstream parts in your rankings. If I'm in the market for a render machine, PCIe lanes for super fast storage also become important. There's no way I'd be looking at a mainstream Intel or AMD part for that sort of build. Overclocked results shouldn't be posted either. They should be relegated to an overclocking section in your video near the end or something. Folks that work, can't be bothered fiddling with vCore and other settings when their machine decides to one day no longer be stable at a given overclock due to a rise in the ambient temperature in the office. The way it is now, I have to constantly pause the video to make sense out of which part is which. Just a suggestion as I had to go elsewhere to get an actual review and be able to compare the HEDT parts without having the same part figure multiple times in the same graph at different overclocked frequencies and a bunch of mainstream parts thrown in for god knows what reason. What I'm suggesting is as logical as your reasoning for not focusing on gaming benchmarks for HEDT parts.
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James
Good review. Didn't get all the way through it because there were too many CPUs thrown into the results here and it was hard to keep following chart after chart of so many line items. One thing is clear. The only way the Intel top end HEDT touches even the 3960X is by putting an OC over 18 cores, which you THEN pay the price for the electric bill, not only for the added power consumption by the CPU itself, but for the extra cooling required for the space the computer is in. So, even though the retail price is lower, and assuming you will use these systems for 2 to 3 years (really I think the AMD platform is set up to use for 4 - 5 years by adding Zen3 threadripper in a couple years, you'll have a larger cost for the 10980XE due to the electric bill. So, leaving these in a stock config, which IMO is what a consumer should do with parts that are this expensive since after all you void warranties, The 3960X, based on price/performance seems like a very clear winner.
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Good review. Didn't get all the way through it because there were too many CPUs thrown into the results here and it was hard to keep following chart after chart of so many line items. One thing is clear. The only way the Intel top end HEDT touches even the 3960X is by putting an OC over 18 cores, which you THEN pay the price for the electric bill, not only for the added power consumption by the CPU itself, but for the extra cooling required for the space the computer is in. So, even though the retail price is lower, and assuming you will use these systems for 2 to 3 years (really I think the AMD platform is set up to use for 4 - 5 years by adding Zen3 threadripper in a couple years, you'll have a larger cost for the 10980XE due to the electric bill. So, leaving these in a stock config, which IMO is what a consumer should do with parts that are this expensive since after all you void warranties, The 3960X, based on price/performance seems like a very clear winner.
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Eiszapfen
The 3960X is basically the go to CPU when you want to build the One for All Rig. For gaming, to Work and Encoding etc. But what i don't like is, that the 24 Core CPU cost double as much, as the 16 Core. Where is the justification for that? They are scamming us, out of 8 missing cores! And we still don't know, how many Games and other Software is affected by Zen2's failing Architecture! Max Payne 1 cannot be started, with any Zen2 Ryzen 3000 CPU. While it runs with every single Ryzen 2000 and every intel, until proven otherwise. Im have no need for a CPU Architecture that runs 99% of my programs instead of the usual 100%! Especially when the competition does what AMD don't. Now intel delivers vastly inferior products. But the Software works. As usual, there is no Yes-Consumer product. We consumers always have to choose between crap and trash. Always forced to pick the lesser evil. I so fcking hate this sh! tbag Hardware Industry! #FckIntel #FckZen2AMD
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The 3960X is basically the go to CPU when you want to build the One for All Rig. For gaming, to Work and Encoding etc. But what i don't like is, that the 24 Core CPU cost double as much, as the 16 Core. Where is the justification for that? They are scamming us, out of 8 missing cores! And we still don't know, how many Games and other Software is affected by Zen2's failing Architecture! Max Payne 1 cannot be started, with any Zen2 Ryzen 3000 CPU. While it runs with every single Ryzen 2000 and every intel, until proven otherwise. Im have no need for a CPU Architecture that runs 99% of my programs instead of the usual 100%! Especially when the competition does what AMD don't. Now intel delivers vastly inferior products. But the Software works. As usual, there is no Yes-Consumer product. We consumers always have to choose between crap and trash. Always forced to pick the lesser evil. I so fcking hate this sh! tbag Hardware Industry! #FckIntel #FckZen2AMD
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2Fast4Mellow
Time to be a little critical of this review. Why are the benchmarks limited to graphical workloads? There are benchmarks designed for high performance computers (HPC) recognized by the industry like HPC Challenge, TPC database benchmarks via for example HammerDB with Microsoft SQL Server 2017 Developer (free) or HiBench for testing with Hadoop (BigData) database for testing with 19 workloads (micro transaction, machine learning, sql, graph, websearch and streaming. and CISL. These benchmarks do not only test raw IPC performance, but also interconnects, memory, disk IO and several advanced instruction sets like encryption and virtualization extensions needed for VDI applications. These benchmarks are realworld HPC applications. Usually 4GB of memory per thread is advised, meaning a 32c/64t CPU needs 256GB memory (8 x 32GB. Most graphical designers also use GPU acceleration for rendering. .
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Time to be a little critical of this review. Why are the benchmarks limited to graphical workloads? There are benchmarks designed for high performance computers (HPC) recognized by the industry like HPC Challenge, TPC database benchmarks via for example HammerDB with Microsoft SQL Server 2017 Developer (free) or HiBench for testing with Hadoop (BigData) database for testing with 19 workloads (micro transaction, machine learning, sql, graph, websearch and streaming. and CISL. These benchmarks do not only test raw IPC performance, but also interconnects, memory, disk IO and several advanced instruction sets like encryption and virtualization extensions needed for VDI applications. These benchmarks are realworld HPC applications. Usually 4GB of memory per thread is advised, meaning a 32c/64t CPU needs 256GB memory (8 x 32GB. Most graphical designers also use GPU acceleration for rendering. .
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Gareth
11: 35 I believe the main reason 7-Zip is slower compressing than decompressing. When compressing; the dictionary is being built, making threading much harder (virtually impossible, it's impressive that it still scales so well. For decompressing; the dictionary is immutable so the cores can all have their own copy in their own cache. Sure, the core count is the headliner, but the size of CPU cache has never expanded at such a rate. I think it's only a matter of time until we see chiplets of HBM L3/4 cache, I wouldn't be surprised if any of the next consoles implemented this actually.
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11: 35 I believe the main reason 7-Zip is slower compressing than decompressing. When compressing; the dictionary is being built, making threading much harder (virtually impossible, it's impressive that it still scales so well. For decompressing; the dictionary is immutable so the cores can all have their own copy in their own cache. Sure, the core count is the headliner, but the size of CPU cache has never expanded at such a rate. I think it's only a matter of time until we see chiplets of HBM L3/4 cache, I wouldn't be surprised if any of the next consoles implemented this actually.
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Austin
I know this comment that will get lost in the cluster of the others but I wanted to say this. I like modern cases they're nice looking, futuristic in some designs, but A LOT of them don't have 5. 25 bays anymore. At least with an open front panel design. I know it's because of people don't use physical media anymore etc. But there is a lot of potential for that function. Ex. hot swapping drives. Finding a decent case that isn't razor blade sharp or way too expensive is getting harder for to find. That's all I wanted to say
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I know this comment that will get lost in the cluster of the others but I wanted to say this. I like modern cases they're nice looking, futuristic in some designs, but A LOT of them don't have 5. 25 bays anymore. At least with an open front panel design. I know it's because of people don't use physical media anymore etc. But there is a lot of potential for that function. Ex. hot swapping drives. Finding a decent case that isn't razor blade sharp or way too expensive is getting harder for to find. That's all I wanted to say
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HypnoticSuggestion
I'm brand agnostic though for me the glory days were around AthlonXP to Athlon64 and I really enjoy seeing AMD on top, Intel needed a bloody nose, especially after their 'glued together' comments which seemed so unbelievably small and out of touch; particularly because they had similar plans but likely couldn't act due to their node issues and their over-earmarking of time dedicated to sniffing their own farts. I'm finally ready to ditch my X99 system I think.
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I'm brand agnostic though for me the glory days were around AthlonXP to Athlon64 and I really enjoy seeing AMD on top, Intel needed a bloody nose, especially after their 'glued together' comments which seemed so unbelievably small and out of touch; particularly because they had similar plans but likely couldn't act due to their node issues and their over-earmarking of time dedicated to sniffing their own farts. I'm finally ready to ditch my X99 system I think.
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foff
like with the 18 core, it is as if gn knows someone is watching the beginning of the video and the charts. your results clash with everyone elses. above all else patronizing your audience, opinionating fron the start to the end rather than be concisive or objective, trying to down your opinion over a review, do that just on the conclusion, it is clear you dont like the 32 core because it is 2000, not going to say more about it. disappointing, no one had these numbers.
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like with the 18 core, it is as if gn knows someone is watching the beginning of the video and the charts. your results clash with everyone elses. above all else patronizing your audience, opinionating fron the start to the end rather than be concisive or objective, trying to down your opinion over a review, do that just on the conclusion, it is clear you dont like the 32 core because it is 2000, not going to say more about it. disappointing, no one had these numbers.
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poeticalvision
TLDR for anybody that just wants an Intel comparison and doesn't want to watch or dig through the numbers, the new Threadrippers are about as productive as the 10980XE in most tasks and slightly inferior in some tasks and sometimes vastly superior in others, while carrying a much better price and about 1/2 the power consumption. Meaning: Intel has finally lost their lead, and its a tie race. So now its time to consider the cost rather than the performance.
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TLDR for anybody that just wants an Intel comparison and doesn't want to watch or dig through the numbers, the new Threadrippers are about as productive as the 10980XE in most tasks and slightly inferior in some tasks and sometimes vastly superior in others, while carrying a much better price and about 1/2 the power consumption. Meaning: Intel has finally lost their lead, and its a tie race. So now its time to consider the cost rather than the performance.
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eRe4s3r
The CIV6 benchmark for end turn times is the literal reason I am running Intel currently because that 1 review shows a picture that is like 600000 trilion times worse if you play Total War: Warhammer 2 Mortal Empires, where surprise surprise, AMD is even further behind. except nobody ever benchmarks this. For me, that is the only relevant metric, so AMD isn't even competing in my specific niche.
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The CIV6 benchmark for end turn times is the literal reason I am running Intel currently because that 1 review shows a picture that is like 600000 trilion times worse if you play Total War: Warhammer 2 Mortal Empires, where surprise surprise, AMD is even further behind. except nobody ever benchmarks this. For me, that is the only relevant metric, so AMD isn't even competing in my specific niche.
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