New AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. Original, R5 2600, & 3600
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Basically no difference between the AF and AE after overclocking. Most Ryzen 5 1600 AEs, even the first batches, can reach 4. 1GHz at 1. 4vcore, and can definitely reach 4GHz at 1. 4vcore, with the Wraith Spire on most ATX B350 and X370 mobos. The issue lies in finding the overclocking vcore sweet spot when balancing vcore, lowest voltage, temp, stability, and other factors which for most chips, even Intel, is in the 1. 34-1. 35vcore range. I've got a Ryzen 5 1600 at 4GHz at 1. 352vcore and have overclocked over ten Ryzen 5 1600s since they were released and have always been able to reach 4GHz at 1. 3875vcore easily with stock cooling. The 2600's max in my experience is 4. 2GHz at 1. 3875-1. 4vcore with some Silicon Lottery winners reaching 4. 3GHz in the same voltage range. All of the chips were able to reach 4. 3GHz at 1. 435-1. 45vcore which is the max recommended daily use setting from AMD but they obviously run much hotter.
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Basically no difference between the AF and AE after overclocking. Most Ryzen 5 1600 AEs, even the first batches, can reach 4. 1GHz at 1. 4vcore, and can definitely reach 4GHz at 1. 4vcore, with the Wraith Spire on most ATX B350 and X370 mobos. The issue lies in finding the overclocking vcore sweet spot when balancing vcore, lowest voltage, temp, stability, and other factors which for most chips, even Intel, is in the 1. 34-1. 35vcore range. I've got a Ryzen 5 1600 at 4GHz at 1. 352vcore and have overclocked over ten Ryzen 5 1600s since they were released and have always been able to reach 4GHz at 1. 3875vcore easily with stock cooling. The 2600's max in my experience is 4. 2GHz at 1. 3875-1. 4vcore with some Silicon Lottery winners reaching 4. 3GHz in the same voltage range. All of the chips were able to reach 4. 3GHz at 1. 435-1. 45vcore which is the max recommended daily use setting from AMD but they obviously run much hotter.
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D827
A useful video just at the time I'm looking at upgrading my i7 6700k. While the 6700k shows as being faster, as I would have to change motherboard and memory (2400 currently) anyway it seems better to save some money and put it into the motherboard and memory and possibly a nvme ssd upgrade with the clear upgrade route available later down the line. The extra threads of the 1600af will be useful for the uses other than gaming I have. The 6700k will replace a rather aging q9550 Plex server which really struggles with transcoding, the 1600af would obviously trickle down to this when a faster am4 CPU is bought in the future. The only downside being the graphics card will have to soldier on a while longer (970 4g), but budget being tight, staggered upgrading is necessary. Again I expect I'll probably use the 970 for the Plex server when I get around to replacement for hw transcoding.
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A useful video just at the time I'm looking at upgrading my i7 6700k. While the 6700k shows as being faster, as I would have to change motherboard and memory (2400 currently) anyway it seems better to save some money and put it into the motherboard and memory and possibly a nvme ssd upgrade with the clear upgrade route available later down the line. The extra threads of the 1600af will be useful for the uses other than gaming I have. The 6700k will replace a rather aging q9550 Plex server which really struggles with transcoding, the 1600af would obviously trickle down to this when a faster am4 CPU is bought in the future. The only downside being the graphics card will have to soldier on a while longer (970 4g), but budget being tight, staggered upgrading is necessary. Again I expect I'll probably use the 970 for the Plex server when I get around to replacement for hw transcoding.
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Warren
Actually it would make a very good office machine, 60 for 2 x 8 3000 speed ram. 76 for a B450 motherboard, 93 for a GTX 1030 or RX 550, 50 for a bronze power supply and 75 for SSD add 36 for a case with 2 fans for under 500. 600 with Win 10 license. ( Actually 20-25 per seat for 1000 or more) Before Boeing took over McDonald-Douglas, McDonald used to build their own. Between Long Beach -Seal Beach 25, 000 desktops. If you got a good group of in house nerds, why not? You don't need much local storage. That is what servers are for.
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Actually it would make a very good office machine, 60 for 2 x 8 3000 speed ram. 76 for a B450 motherboard, 93 for a GTX 1030 or RX 550, 50 for a bronze power supply and 75 for SSD add 36 for a case with 2 fans for under 500. 600 with Win 10 license. ( Actually 20-25 per seat for 1000 or more) Before Boeing took over McDonald-Douglas, McDonald used to build their own. Between Long Beach -Seal Beach 25, 000 desktops. If you got a good group of in house nerds, why not? You don't need much local storage. That is what servers are for.
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Akinci
Amd has made the cpu prices good so teenagers can get into pc gaming cheap I like that. Back in the days I had troubles even buying the i5 2500k new i had to buy it used in order to get it. And now amd gives a relevant cpu which can do 60 / 144 hz gaming for teenagers possible. Remember not everyone can get that 800 dollar pc there are teenagers with 300 to 500 dollars budget and they will definetly go amd. And when they have the money next year they will upgrade to a higher cpu. Very smart and competitive of amd.
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Amd has made the cpu prices good so teenagers can get into pc gaming cheap I like that. Back in the days I had troubles even buying the i5 2500k new i had to buy it used in order to get it. And now amd gives a relevant cpu which can do 60 / 144 hz gaming for teenagers possible. Remember not everyone can get that 800 dollar pc there are teenagers with 300 to 500 dollars budget and they will definetly go amd. And when they have the money next year they will upgrade to a higher cpu. Very smart and competitive of amd.
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Joseph
I find little difference between a 2600 at 4. 0GHz and a 1600AE at 4. 0 GHz. I have computers with those processors at those speeds and getting an AF, at this point, would not be worth it for me. (That is, unless, I was going to build a forth computer, since I already have a third computer with a 1700 at 3. 8 GHz. :) ) I can get 4. 1 GHz out of the 2600 in my X370 but, I had to go from 1. 3v to 1. 4v just to get there and therefore, I installed the 2600 in my B450 mITX board, instead.
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I find little difference between a 2600 at 4. 0GHz and a 1600AE at 4. 0 GHz. I have computers with those processors at those speeds and getting an AF, at this point, would not be worth it for me. (That is, unless, I was going to build a forth computer, since I already have a third computer with a 1700 at 3. 8 GHz. :) ) I can get 4. 1 GHz out of the 2600 in my X370 but, I had to go from 1. 3v to 1. 4v just to get there and therefore, I installed the 2600 in my B450 mITX board, instead.
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Bruno
All I can say. New hardware purchased by me, Motherboard with B450, 1600 with a stock cooler that does not suck like the intel one, 16 Gb 2800 with decent timings. 230 euros. Double my Fx 6300 costs to replace the intel that went to a crap two years ago, cost with the board plus fx 115 more or less. Now a new pc that can run time-lapse processing, gaming, youtube and etc without dying or running into a wall. Ty AMD once again. For the price of a single core I5 almost.
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All I can say. New hardware purchased by me, Motherboard with B450, 1600 with a stock cooler that does not suck like the intel one, 16 Gb 2800 with decent timings. 230 euros. Double my Fx 6300 costs to replace the intel that went to a crap two years ago, cost with the board plus fx 115 more or less. Now a new pc that can run time-lapse processing, gaming, youtube and etc without dying or running into a wall. Ty AMD once again. For the price of a single core I5 almost.
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Tristin
Been stuck with a i5 3570k for too long, had to overclock it just to keep up with many titles past 2014. It did me well for 7 years though and back in those days intel was doing better as a worthwhile company. RIP in peace Ivy Bridge. This is it, this will hold me well over now untill the 4 gen ryzen cpus come out and I'll go all out on the better models.
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Been stuck with a i5 3570k for too long, had to overclock it just to keep up with many titles past 2014. It did me well for 7 years though and back in those days intel was doing better as a worthwhile company. RIP in peace Ivy Bridge. This is it, this will hold me well over now untill the 4 gen ryzen cpus come out and I'll go all out on the better models.
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WW3Revelation6
One factor in choosing an upgrade depends on what cpu you have now. For me having a i7 3770k, a 2600 would be about a 50% increase, while the 3600 is double. Double just makes the trouble of upgrading more worth it to me. I'm sticking with the 3770k though, because I don't want to risk having to download and reinstall windows and all my pc games.
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One factor in choosing an upgrade depends on what cpu you have now. For me having a i7 3770k, a 2600 would be about a 50% increase, while the 3600 is double. Double just makes the trouble of upgrading more worth it to me. I'm sticking with the 3770k though, because I don't want to risk having to download and reinstall windows and all my pc games.
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Sheev
I love how AMD's solution to their 14nm shortage is to just give us better performance using their 12nm process AND ALSO cut the price in half. Like goddamn AMD, do we get a brick of gold with this thing too? It's funny, Intel is literally having trouble getting past 14nm while AMD is having trouble not moving past 14nm.
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I love how AMD's solution to their 14nm shortage is to just give us better performance using their 12nm process AND ALSO cut the price in half. Like goddamn AMD, do we get a brick of gold with this thing too? It's funny, Intel is literally having trouble getting past 14nm while AMD is having trouble not moving past 14nm.
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Brian
This will be total mess up the market. People might expect 2700AF as well. In addition, I really hope those chips finalized in Malaysia or somewhere, not in China. If so, I doubt about a security matter, seriously. Chinese even install spy chips in a toaster or a coffeemaker.
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This will be total mess up the market. People might expect 2700AF as well. In addition, I really hope those chips finalized in Malaysia or somewhere, not in China. If so, I doubt about a security matter, seriously. Chinese even install spy chips in a toaster or a coffeemaker.
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