24K AMD Threadripper Workstation w/ Water Cooling, ft. BPS Customs
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Jack
I know the chances of anybody who has actually done what I'm asking seeing this comment are slim, but I figured this is probably a good place to ask anyway. Has anybody tried to put the motherboard they use in this video (Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme) inside a Thermaltake Tower 900 case? The case says it will fit E-ATX motherboards up to 12x13 inches, but this Gigabyte mobo is labeled as XL-ATX and the specs page at Newegg says that the mobo is 12. 8x10. 8 inches. The problem is I can't tell if these two companies are mixing up the way they write length x width, or of this Gigabyte mobo is actually wider than it is long and therefore won't fit (which can't be correct based off of the way it looks. it DEFINITELY looks taller than it is wide. Another possibility is that because the mobo goes into the Tower 900 case sideways, Thermaltake is listing the width of the mobo tray as what the HEIGHT actually is. All I want to know is whether or not this Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme mobo will fit inside the Thermaltake Tower 900 case before I go on a shopping spree. Not only do I not want to end up having to send stuff back, but I don't want to use ANY other case. so if this specific mobo won't fit I may go with one of the slightly cheaper Gigabyte TRX40 boards for my new rig, just to fit it inside that case.
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I know the chances of anybody who has actually done what I'm asking seeing this comment are slim, but I figured this is probably a good place to ask anyway. Has anybody tried to put the motherboard they use in this video (Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme) inside a Thermaltake Tower 900 case? The case says it will fit E-ATX motherboards up to 12x13 inches, but this Gigabyte mobo is labeled as XL-ATX and the specs page at Newegg says that the mobo is 12. 8x10. 8 inches. The problem is I can't tell if these two companies are mixing up the way they write length x width, or of this Gigabyte mobo is actually wider than it is long and therefore won't fit (which can't be correct based off of the way it looks. it DEFINITELY looks taller than it is wide. Another possibility is that because the mobo goes into the Tower 900 case sideways, Thermaltake is listing the width of the mobo tray as what the HEIGHT actually is. All I want to know is whether or not this Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme mobo will fit inside the Thermaltake Tower 900 case before I go on a shopping spree. Not only do I not want to end up having to send stuff back, but I don't want to use ANY other case. so if this specific mobo won't fit I may go with one of the slightly cheaper Gigabyte TRX40 boards for my new rig, just to fit it inside that case.
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DisabledCable
As a 1 arm cripple that is stubborn AF and still loves to build pcs, The 011 Dynamic is the most incredibly easy to work in premium case I've ever had the pleasure to work with. I'd love to do a custom loop one day but to be honest with just 1 360 aio it's just about at the limit I can safely pick up and work on. The amount of little touches and thoughtfulness that went into this design is incredible. Tempered glass is usually scary af for me to handle but they made this a breeze and I love how easy it is to keep dust out. My cat, dog, and I are all hairy mofos so this matter a lot to me! Props to Der8auer, Lian Li and to you Steve b/c your review convinced me it didn't need to be full custom loop to make it worth a purchase. Of course I went with Razer edition (Love at first sight) because without the Naga(+Stinkyboard) I would be stuck playing rts and arpgs only. I planned my build for months cause life on govt cheese ain't easy but GD I could not be happier and it will take a lot for me to ever consider another case. Happy New Year Yall!
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As a 1 arm cripple that is stubborn AF and still loves to build pcs, The 011 Dynamic is the most incredibly easy to work in premium case I've ever had the pleasure to work with. I'd love to do a custom loop one day but to be honest with just 1 360 aio it's just about at the limit I can safely pick up and work on. The amount of little touches and thoughtfulness that went into this design is incredible. Tempered glass is usually scary af for me to handle but they made this a breeze and I love how easy it is to keep dust out. My cat, dog, and I are all hairy mofos so this matter a lot to me! Props to Der8auer, Lian Li and to you Steve b/c your review convinced me it didn't need to be full custom loop to make it worth a purchase. Of course I went with Razer edition (Love at first sight) because without the Naga(+Stinkyboard) I would be stuck playing rts and arpgs only. I planned my build for months cause life on govt cheese ain't easy but GD I could not be happier and it will take a lot for me to ever consider another case. Happy New Year Yall!
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Guest
I'm curious. I'm not sure from the VID's the direction of the water. but I assume its running from the pump, up to the back radiator, through the top rad, then in to the CPU, so the CPU is before the GPU's in the loop. This raises the question is it better to cool the GPU's before the CPU or the CPU before the GPU's? Would its intended use be a factor in which you cooled first, so a system that spends 90% of its time rendering via GPU's you'd cool them first because the processor is only being used to feed the GPU's? I guess if the water is moving fast enough it wouldn't make much difference, because it doesn't have long enough contact to get more than a couple of degs warmer per volume/flow - but I might be wrong! (Although you are dumping a huge amount of heat, 40-95deg, that heat is only at the contact point so the flow rate means that the water doesn't have time to heat much, before its moved away from the heat source)
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I'm curious. I'm not sure from the VID's the direction of the water. but I assume its running from the pump, up to the back radiator, through the top rad, then in to the CPU, so the CPU is before the GPU's in the loop. This raises the question is it better to cool the GPU's before the CPU or the CPU before the GPU's? Would its intended use be a factor in which you cooled first, so a system that spends 90% of its time rendering via GPU's you'd cool them first because the processor is only being used to feed the GPU's? I guess if the water is moving fast enough it wouldn't make much difference, because it doesn't have long enough contact to get more than a couple of degs warmer per volume/flow - but I might be wrong! (Although you are dumping a huge amount of heat, 40-95deg, that heat is only at the contact point so the flow rate means that the water doesn't have time to heat much, before its moved away from the heat source)
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Mashy
Just made a build with the same CPU and motherboard and (only) one Titan V in a be quiet 900 pro - and it was super tight to get all the water cooling fitted! I wanted to add my second GPU (Titan Z) but just couldn't get it to fit. This case might be more practical for me and I found this build-log really useful! Thanks. :) Interested to see how the testing goes for you. I went with a 420mm + 280mm rads so similar-ish surface area and under super silent operation (fans around 600-900 RPM) temperatures are decent enough with the CPU maxing out at around 76c. Also, if you ever want to test some computational fluid dynamics simulations for testing give a shout and I'll be happy to help. :)
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Just made a build with the same CPU and motherboard and (only) one Titan V in a be quiet 900 pro - and it was super tight to get all the water cooling fitted! I wanted to add my second GPU (Titan Z) but just couldn't get it to fit. This case might be more practical for me and I found this build-log really useful! Thanks. :) Interested to see how the testing goes for you. I went with a 420mm + 280mm rads so similar-ish surface area and under super silent operation (fans around 600-900 RPM) temperatures are decent enough with the CPU maxing out at around 76c. Also, if you ever want to test some computational fluid dynamics simulations for testing give a shout and I'll be happy to help. :)
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Alberto
I'm just start watching and I'm wondering why some custom water-cooling builders decide on going the dual independent circuit route, just for the looks? To me it seems pointless the dedicate a 500W radiator exclusively to the CPU and another to dual GPUs instead of having a 1000W of cooling capacity, you can go dual Pump and dual reservoir anyway so the only thing that I see would be lost is the capacity of using different liquid colours on each circuit, nothing related to the cooling capacity. I'm missing something here? (I'm just watching the video yet, I don't know which route Steve will take, as I consider him a very practical guy, not one that will put looks first)
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I'm just start watching and I'm wondering why some custom water-cooling builders decide on going the dual independent circuit route, just for the looks? To me it seems pointless the dedicate a 500W radiator exclusively to the CPU and another to dual GPUs instead of having a 1000W of cooling capacity, you can go dual Pump and dual reservoir anyway so the only thing that I see would be lost is the capacity of using different liquid colours on each circuit, nothing related to the cooling capacity. I'm missing something here? (I'm just watching the video yet, I don't know which route Steve will take, as I consider him a very practical guy, not one that will put looks first)
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Jame
Not common but if I did have the money I would go Threadripper, Silverstone GD series case or TJ08-E, X399M board, a V100 (or whatever does best in hashcat and friends, and a Quadro for fun (and CAD. And of course the dual ultrawide in pivot mode for terminal goodness all day erryday. Recompile for scrollback in st? Lolno, not anymore. I probably should pick AMD over Nvidia for something like it, because swaywm no like Nvidia prop drivers. And the ultimate system of course boots frrom xpoint, and has pure solid state storage with another xpoint drive for buffer, those 8TB sas ssd's are kinda slow.
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Not common but if I did have the money I would go Threadripper, Silverstone GD series case or TJ08-E, X399M board, a V100 (or whatever does best in hashcat and friends, and a Quadro for fun (and CAD. And of course the dual ultrawide in pivot mode for terminal goodness all day erryday. Recompile for scrollback in st? Lolno, not anymore. I probably should pick AMD over Nvidia for something like it, because swaywm no like Nvidia prop drivers. And the ultimate system of course boots frrom xpoint, and has pure solid state storage with another xpoint drive for buffer, those 8TB sas ssd's are kinda slow.
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will
Everyone flippin out about soft tubing, does it look like they have time to sit and stare at it? Aesthetics are nice, but it is a place of work. I am sure if there was a magical air cooler that had the performance of this setup, Steve would use that. But then we wouldnt have this cool collab, so screw magic. Edit: wow that tubing job came out so clean. I think most people are used to see excess soft tubing which may be the source of the soft hate.
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Everyone flippin out about soft tubing, does it look like they have time to sit and stare at it? Aesthetics are nice, but it is a place of work. I am sure if there was a magical air cooler that had the performance of this setup, Steve would use that. But then we wouldnt have this cool collab, so screw magic. Edit: wow that tubing job came out so clean. I think most people are used to see excess soft tubing which may be the source of the soft hate.
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Jason
Heat killer doesn't have much stock of reservoirs in the USA. Especially the d5 and DCC ones. I got mine from Germany and it took a month to make. Seem to be behind on making them. Than I found that modmymod. com had a few. The top and bottom are made from acetal. Even though I was going for a no plastic loop it's fine. It still looks great. And the glass for the reservoir is really thick, thicker than I was expecting.
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Heat killer doesn't have much stock of reservoirs in the USA. Especially the d5 and DCC ones. I got mine from Germany and it took a month to make. Seem to be behind on making them. Than I found that modmymod. com had a few. The top and bottom are made from acetal. Even though I was going for a no plastic loop it's fine. It still looks great. And the glass for the reservoir is really thick, thicker than I was expecting.
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Mjr
Does the bottom card run hotter than the top card? Shouldn't it be inlet bottom card - flow through the card to outlet - bottom card outlet to inlet top card - outlet top card to CPU? With that set up does the bottom card get proper flow as it appears the inlet is passing through the tube on other side of block going into top card? Maybe I'm over thinking but doesn't water flow always seek the path of least resistance?
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Does the bottom card run hotter than the top card? Shouldn't it be inlet bottom card - flow through the card to outlet - bottom card outlet to inlet top card - outlet top card to CPU? With that set up does the bottom card get proper flow as it appears the inlet is passing through the tube on other side of block going into top card? Maybe I'm over thinking but doesn't water flow always seek the path of least resistance?
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fredEVOIX
yes you can fit an E-ATX but it does interfere, you barely have the space to make the SUPER THICK USB 3. x case wire (that I don't see here) connect to the right of the motherboard I have a mounted both a 9900k and 3960x in (aio+classic fans cooling) the TRX40 board did make things more annoying not impossible just less clean looking I wish it was slightly wider or longer not much like 5mm-1cm
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yes you can fit an E-ATX but it does interfere, you barely have the space to make the SUPER THICK USB 3. x case wire (that I don't see here) connect to the right of the motherboard I have a mounted both a 9900k and 3960x in (aio+classic fans cooling) the TRX40 board did make things more annoying not impossible just less clean looking I wish it was slightly wider or longer not much like 5mm-1cm
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