AMD B550 Timeline, New Tomahawk, & MSI's Attempt at Cases, Coolers
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Nacho
There are a couple of use cases that I can think of for SIM enabled desktops though they are pretty flimsy; 1) You live in an area which is underserved by telecos- now you have additional options for internet carriers. 2) You already pay for legit unlimited cellular data, and don't have the means to purchase an additional connection or don't wish to purchase an additional connection. 3) You live in an area where you do not have RELIABLE cable internet, and you have mission critical stuff you need to be able to accomplish if your cable internet goes down 4) You are moving and the cable guy will be there between 8-4 pm between Thursday and Saturday within the next six months - a cellular connection will at least get you online for the time it takes to get out there 5) You are going to a LAN party and the host doesn't have enough cables/drops/ports to go around, or enough capacity on their network, or you just plain don't want to connect to their network 6) You're a firm that loves to spy on your customers and having an always-on cellular connection removes another barrier to collecting said data 7) You live somewhere that a cell connection is basically all you're going to get because there literally is not cable infrastructure going to your dwelling but there is power; a SIM card is probably less expensive than having cable ran.
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There are a couple of use cases that I can think of for SIM enabled desktops though they are pretty flimsy; 1) You live in an area which is underserved by telecos- now you have additional options for internet carriers. 2) You already pay for legit unlimited cellular data, and don't have the means to purchase an additional connection or don't wish to purchase an additional connection. 3) You live in an area where you do not have RELIABLE cable internet, and you have mission critical stuff you need to be able to accomplish if your cable internet goes down 4) You are moving and the cable guy will be there between 8-4 pm between Thursday and Saturday within the next six months - a cellular connection will at least get you online for the time it takes to get out there 5) You are going to a LAN party and the host doesn't have enough cables/drops/ports to go around, or enough capacity on their network, or you just plain don't want to connect to their network 6) You're a firm that loves to spy on your customers and having an always-on cellular connection removes another barrier to collecting said data 7) You live somewhere that a cell connection is basically all you're going to get because there literally is not cable infrastructure going to your dwelling but there is power; a SIM card is probably less expensive than having cable ran.
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Aby
all these, manufactuers are stil living in the 80's, offering products all the time which at the core are all copied european and american stuff, they copied 40 years ago and never offere one single piece of innovative hardwre. motherboards still look the same, cases like goldrake, or first gen acer, and the list is endless. its abotutime they start moving away frompcb, (especialy becuase they never repair Yours any how, whichwas the first reason for which computers motherboards exist on PCB) and have chip manufacturers work on contemporary system onchip designs in much more compact form factor which cn reduce heat and increase density x10. EVEN gpus on pcb are senselss in 2020. andall this computer cases thy are all withno exception just a bunch of crap. The Apollo mission took place over 50 years ago and in2020 we are still lookingat stuff on the edge of steam punk citty city bang bang designs.
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all these, manufactuers are stil living in the 80's, offering products all the time which at the core are all copied european and american stuff, they copied 40 years ago and never offere one single piece of innovative hardwre. motherboards still look the same, cases like goldrake, or first gen acer, and the list is endless. its abotutime they start moving away frompcb, (especialy becuase they never repair Yours any how, whichwas the first reason for which computers motherboards exist on PCB) and have chip manufacturers work on contemporary system onchip designs in much more compact form factor which cn reduce heat and increase density x10. EVEN gpus on pcb are senselss in 2020. andall this computer cases thy are all withno exception just a bunch of crap. The Apollo mission took place over 50 years ago and in2020 we are still lookingat stuff on the edge of steam punk citty city bang bang designs.
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Jim
x570s haven't sold as well as they thought, so they're delaying the B550 to push out x570 inventory and justify their ROI on those. I just plugged my 3000 series ZEN into my B350 and called it good because I didn't want a board that adds an active cooling potential failure point. Further, the PCIE 4. 0 isn't justified for most users as PCIE 3. whaever is still not saturated by a 1080ti. The old pre-x570 boards will continue to sell just fine until the B550 comes out. Summary: X570 was a hyped up crap board with a nearly useless advance in PCIE that nobody needed/wanted. Lots of folks just dropped their 3000 series into their existing boards and AMD didn't do board partners any favors by offering loaner CPUs so they could update bios to run the new ZENs.
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x570s haven't sold as well as they thought, so they're delaying the B550 to push out x570 inventory and justify their ROI on those. I just plugged my 3000 series ZEN into my B350 and called it good because I didn't want a board that adds an active cooling potential failure point. Further, the PCIE 4. 0 isn't justified for most users as PCIE 3. whaever is still not saturated by a 1080ti. The old pre-x570 boards will continue to sell just fine until the B550 comes out. Summary: X570 was a hyped up crap board with a nearly useless advance in PCIE that nobody needed/wanted. Lots of folks just dropped their 3000 series into their existing boards and AMD didn't do board partners any favors by offering loaner CPUs so they could update bios to run the new ZENs.
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gblessbacon
I really want to buy an MSI Sekira 500G. To me it is the best looking case on the market. My 10+ year old thermaltake case allows for better airflow through small front mesh vents than the 500G does. For me they could make 1 design change on the front panel and i'd buy it without hesitation. I would put mesh vents in the center of where the 200mm fans sit on the front panel. They could do it a variety of ways. A circular cut out for the mesh maybe 100mm in diameter? Or a cut out the width of the front panel that could be the same as the side vents and angled like the RGB strip on the 500x' front panel. They could gold trim any cutouts like the rest of the case as well.
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I really want to buy an MSI Sekira 500G. To me it is the best looking case on the market. My 10+ year old thermaltake case allows for better airflow through small front mesh vents than the 500G does. For me they could make 1 design change on the front panel and i'd buy it without hesitation. I would put mesh vents in the center of where the 200mm fans sit on the front panel. They could do it a variety of ways. A circular cut out for the mesh maybe 100mm in diameter? Or a cut out the width of the front panel that could be the same as the side vents and angled like the RGB strip on the 500x' front panel. They could gold trim any cutouts like the rest of the case as well.
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mapesdhs
3: 30 - If that's genuinely why AMD has not yet launched B550 mbds then surely it means AMD has started down the same dark path that Intel trod for so long, ie. not releasing products because they don't have to. It's why Intel didn't launch an 8c for X79, instead the 3930K was a crippled 8c since AMD could barely beat the 2500K back then. So many other examples since, the long history of boring 4c mainstream. I really hope AMD isn't delaying B550 just because they're doing well and don't need to. Please AMD, don't copy Intel's MO, because one day it'll come back and bite you in the ass.
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3: 30 - If that's genuinely why AMD has not yet launched B550 mbds then surely it means AMD has started down the same dark path that Intel trod for so long, ie. not releasing products because they don't have to. It's why Intel didn't launch an 8c for X79, instead the 3930K was a crippled 8c since AMD could barely beat the 2500K back then. So many other examples since, the long history of boring 4c mainstream. I really hope AMD isn't delaying B550 just because they're doing well and don't need to. Please AMD, don't copy Intel's MO, because one day it'll come back and bite you in the ass.
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Charles
I have a sekira 500x, the airflow sucks. You have to water cool. Unless your willing to take off the glass. It's also super heavy. my CPU sits at around 65-70 c idle in this case but was at 47 -53 in my lian li lan cool 1 digital. both on air. CPU AMD 3700x mobo MSI meg ace x570. the 200mm fans move very little air as they have almost no space from the front of the fan before they meet the glass. I have the fans on this case cranked to 100% all the time. the case fans are fairly quiet but when the CPU fans working hard to its very noisy.
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I have a sekira 500x, the airflow sucks. You have to water cool. Unless your willing to take off the glass. It's also super heavy. my CPU sits at around 65-70 c idle in this case but was at 47 -53 in my lian li lan cool 1 digital. both on air. CPU AMD 3700x mobo MSI meg ace x570. the 200mm fans move very little air as they have almost no space from the front of the fan before they meet the glass. I have the fans on this case cranked to 100% all the time. the case fans are fairly quiet but when the CPU fans working hard to its very noisy.
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Stygian
Hiding those fans up front is likely an aesthetic issue that wont be resolved ever, unless fan manufacturers would offer fans with flipped mounting so you don't have to look at the 'ugly' backside of the fan as they pull air in. People make fun of aesthetic concerns but mounting intake fans on the side of the O11 for example always rubs me the wrong way, having the backside of the fan on display, often ruining any kind of illumination in the process doesn't seems like a good idea for a glassed showpiece build.
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Hiding those fans up front is likely an aesthetic issue that wont be resolved ever, unless fan manufacturers would offer fans with flipped mounting so you don't have to look at the 'ugly' backside of the fan as they pull air in. People make fun of aesthetic concerns but mounting intake fans on the side of the O11 for example always rubs me the wrong way, having the backside of the fan on display, often ruining any kind of illumination in the process doesn't seems like a good idea for a glassed showpiece build.
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daylightriot
nope. amd are milking pcie 4 exclusivity on x570. They are milking profits because motherboard manufacturers have to pay license fees to use the chipset. B550's chipset will cost signifficantly less. amd seems to think they have finished the penetration stage of their marketing campaign. Personally, I think amd is still during the early growth stage their PLC and will be until they can crack the server segment and release workstation gpu's equivalent to the quadro rx 8000.
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nope. amd are milking pcie 4 exclusivity on x570. They are milking profits because motherboard manufacturers have to pay license fees to use the chipset. B550's chipset will cost signifficantly less. amd seems to think they have finished the penetration stage of their marketing campaign. Personally, I think amd is still during the early growth stage their PLC and will be until they can crack the server segment and release workstation gpu's equivalent to the quadro rx 8000.
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Mel
Wow criticising the the black case for not having a wide enough vent slit on the side? They have to think about a fix? Just build the god damn box with the fcking drive bay cutouts in the front and put Fcking holes in the lower part of the front. its called an I-N-T-A-K-E. if you want to sound cool tell customers its a front fresh are intake. This used to be an automatic assumption in case design. but that was way way back in like 2015.
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Wow criticising the the black case for not having a wide enough vent slit on the side? They have to think about a fix? Just build the god damn box with the fcking drive bay cutouts in the front and put Fcking holes in the lower part of the front. its called an I-N-T-A-K-E. if you want to sound cool tell customers its a front fresh are intake. This used to be an automatic assumption in case design. but that was way way back in like 2015.
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Metal
This doesnt make much sense. i mean what if i want to build a budget AM4 platform. i wont be using the X570 board with it because thats way to expensive for a budget build. and the older motherboards need a bios update to support the new ryzen chips. but if you dont have an older ryzen CPU you cant update the motherboard. so how do i build a budget pc without the B550 motherboard if i dont have a change to update the bios?
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This doesnt make much sense. i mean what if i want to build a budget AM4 platform. i wont be using the X570 board with it because thats way to expensive for a budget build. and the older motherboards need a bios update to support the new ryzen chips. but if you dont have an older ryzen CPU you cant update the motherboard. so how do i build a budget pc without the B550 motherboard if i dont have a change to update the bios?
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