Get It Together, Corsair - $4,700 Pre-Built Gaming PC Review (Corsair ONE i500)
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Date: 2024-09-30
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KYSMO
NOOO WAY they didn't include the extra power supply cables Corsair is literally selling you E-Waste! That is DISGUSTING behavior!
I would like to share with you a negative experience I had with the Nancon Asymmetrical PS4/PC controller. Gamepads come in wired and wireless varieties.
The wireless ones come in two main varieties - bluetooth and 2.4ghz, similarly to mice and keyboards. The 2.4Ghz variety has a proprietary USB dongle that is most often tied to a single device, or can sometimes be paired to a similar device or another device of the same model. If you lose the dongle, you are SOOL unless the device supports a wired operation mode - something it may or may not do.
That is why some people gravitate toward Bluetooth wireless devices. The bluetooth variety usually is compatible with any bluetooth receiver, be it a USB dongle, a PCI or PCIE card, or an mSATA module, or bluetooth in a phone. The main word there is USUALLY. Some models, like 1st edition XBox One controllers or PS3 controllers, do not work with any Bluetooth dongle - you need a SPECIAL Bluetooth adapter or modified drivers to run them wirelessly with a regular bluetooth. The saving grace is that these models usually offer the ability to run them in WIRED mode, as well. So, if your PS3 breaks, you can use the PS3 controller on your PC with a cable - suboptimal, but at least it works.
Now, Nacon, in all of their wisdom, produces the Nacon Asymmetric controller - priced around 50-60 US dollars. Certainly not one of the premium professional controllers that go for a 100 bucks or more, but definitely not the Walmart 20 dollars brand. The controller is very clearly, unambiguously marketed as a BLUETOOTH controller. HOWEVER, it is very much of the variety that requires a proprietary dongle that comes included. As it is a proprietary dongle, if you were to lose it, break it, or it simply died for no apparent reason (LIKE MINE DID), you could still use it with a cable - IF NACON BOTHERED TO ALLOW YOU TO DO SO!
But they didn't. Instead, Nacon sells the dongle separately, for the low, low price of 22 dollars - almost half of the actual controller. To be fair to Nacon - they are not the only company who does this. However, they are the only ones I know of that sell a product that is so expensive and the replacement part is so expensive as well.
With a Microsoft or Hama 2.4ghz keyboard, you at least know what you are getting into - you are buying a 20 dollar product with a proprietary dongle. With Nacon, you are misled into buying a bluetooth device that does not work with Bluetooth nor with a cable.
To make matters worse - the replacement dongle is of questionable quality, as well. The reviews are not splendid. Some people fail to reconnect the device, for some the dongle dies, for some it never arrives. It has a mixed rating of 1 stars and 5 stars, mostly 1 star.
Thanks for your attention!
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NOOO WAY they didn't include the extra power supply cables Corsair is literally selling you E-Waste! That is DISGUSTING behavior!
I would like to share with you a negative experience I had with the Nancon Asymmetrical PS4/PC controller. Gamepads come in wired and wireless varieties.
The wireless ones come in two main varieties - bluetooth and 2.4ghz, similarly to mice and keyboards. The 2.4Ghz variety has a proprietary USB dongle that is most often tied to a single device, or can sometimes be paired to a similar device or another device of the same model. If you lose the dongle, you are SOOL unless the device supports a wired operation mode - something it may or may not do.
That is why some people gravitate toward Bluetooth wireless devices. The bluetooth variety usually is compatible with any bluetooth receiver, be it a USB dongle, a PCI or PCIE card, or an mSATA module, or bluetooth in a phone. The main word there is USUALLY. Some models, like 1st edition XBox One controllers or PS3 controllers, do not work with any Bluetooth dongle - you need a SPECIAL Bluetooth adapter or modified drivers to run them wirelessly with a regular bluetooth. The saving grace is that these models usually offer the ability to run them in WIRED mode, as well. So, if your PS3 breaks, you can use the PS3 controller on your PC with a cable - suboptimal, but at least it works.
Now, Nacon, in all of their wisdom, produces the Nacon Asymmetric controller - priced around 50-60 US dollars. Certainly not one of the premium professional controllers that go for a 100 bucks or more, but definitely not the Walmart 20 dollars brand. The controller is very clearly, unambiguously marketed as a BLUETOOTH controller. HOWEVER, it is very much of the variety that requires a proprietary dongle that comes included. As it is a proprietary dongle, if you were to lose it, break it, or it simply died for no apparent reason (LIKE MINE DID), you could still use it with a cable - IF NACON BOTHERED TO ALLOW YOU TO DO SO!
But they didn't. Instead, Nacon sells the dongle separately, for the low, low price of 22 dollars - almost half of the actual controller. To be fair to Nacon - they are not the only company who does this. However, they are the only ones I know of that sell a product that is so expensive and the replacement part is so expensive as well.
With a Microsoft or Hama 2.4ghz keyboard, you at least know what you are getting into - you are buying a 20 dollar product with a proprietary dongle. With Nacon, you are misled into buying a bluetooth device that does not work with Bluetooth nor with a cable.
To make matters worse - the replacement dongle is of questionable quality, as well. The reviews are not splendid. Some people fail to reconnect the device, for some the dongle dies, for some it never arrives. It has a mixed rating of 1 stars and 5 stars, mostly 1 star.
Thanks for your attention!
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jeebsmagee
Speaking of the insane prices on this, you should really take a look at Falcon Northwest. I checked their site out of curiosity after hearing the name come up several times, and their upcharge for building the machine is nearly the same as the total cost of components. Looking at their site right now, they're charging $3664 for a PC with a 14600K and the cheapest 4060 Ti on the market. I added up a build list on pcpartpicker using the exact same components they use (I had to add a different CPU cooler and case because theirs are proprietary, so I selected a $230 AIO and a $300 case just to be as fair as possible) and the total cost is $2007, so they have an upcharge of more than $1600. On top of all that, their proprietary case has only front intake (with next to nowhere for the air to actually enter the case, plus it's also intaking through a radiator) and only a single 120mm exhaust fan, with literally nowhere else in the case you can mount any other fans.
I would never personally use any SI, but I'm baffled by the prices Falcon Northwest charges, and I'm even more baffled that people in the PC hardware community speak about them positively.
Edit: It gets even worse lol. They're charging $257 to upgrade from a 14600K to a 14700K. The actual price difference between those two CPUs is currently $108.
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Speaking of the insane prices on this, you should really take a look at Falcon Northwest. I checked their site out of curiosity after hearing the name come up several times, and their upcharge for building the machine is nearly the same as the total cost of components. Looking at their site right now, they're charging $3664 for a PC with a 14600K and the cheapest 4060 Ti on the market. I added up a build list on pcpartpicker using the exact same components they use (I had to add a different CPU cooler and case because theirs are proprietary, so I selected a $230 AIO and a $300 case just to be as fair as possible) and the total cost is $2007, so they have an upcharge of more than $1600. On top of all that, their proprietary case has only front intake (with next to nowhere for the air to actually enter the case, plus it's also intaking through a radiator) and only a single 120mm exhaust fan, with literally nowhere else in the case you can mount any other fans.
I would never personally use any SI, but I'm baffled by the prices Falcon Northwest charges, and I'm even more baffled that people in the PC hardware community speak about them positively.
Edit: It gets even worse lol. They're charging $257 to upgrade from a 14600K to a 14700K. The actual price difference between those two CPUs is currently $108.
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ceeespee2204
Unfortunately, I feel like Corsair and a few other companies in the PC space have started building and selling with an 'ego-forward' mindset because the loudest people in the fandom buy into it. They know that as long as the product has big-name labels and buzzwords attached, these buyers will purchase it without question, no matter the cost. Then, they'll go on to tell others how great it is, because they’d rather die on that hill than admit they were ever wrong. And that sweet, U.W.S.I. boost they get turns big-name label possession into a metric that directly correlates with the value they see in themselves and others. I urge anyone that is interested to visit the song Merchandise by the band Fugazi
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Unfortunately, I feel like Corsair and a few other companies in the PC space have started building and selling with an 'ego-forward' mindset because the loudest people in the fandom buy into it. They know that as long as the product has big-name labels and buzzwords attached, these buyers will purchase it without question, no matter the cost. Then, they'll go on to tell others how great it is, because they’d rather die on that hill than admit they were ever wrong. And that sweet, U.W.S.I. boost they get turns big-name label possession into a metric that directly correlates with the value they see in themselves and others. I urge anyone that is interested to visit the song Merchandise by the band Fugazi
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RehctubNomis
I don't get this case, they make out it being small but the use an mATX board, use a 120 rad where a 240 would fit (and be more appropriate for the cpu) - how does someone the size of Corsair get a product like this out the door Like how many people did this have to go through and at no point anyone brought up any sane points
I'm biased having built ITX for a couple of decades, but you could do better, smaller and still not cost four and a half grand.. like, who needs to lose their job over this and never work in the industry again
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I don't get this case, they make out it being small but the use an mATX board, use a 120 rad where a 240 would fit (and be more appropriate for the cpu) - how does someone the size of Corsair get a product like this out the door Like how many people did this have to go through and at no point anyone brought up any sane points
I'm biased having built ITX for a couple of decades, but you could do better, smaller and still not cost four and a half grand.. like, who needs to lose their job over this and never work in the industry again
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ToysRForever
This is worst then my custom build over a Zotac Mek1 case. I knew the case was bad for temps and noise but I liked it so I built a SFF over it. Still I don't get even close to these temps on it. Off course a 14900K is totally different from a 5600X but coming from a brand this is totally unacceptable specially considering they went with AIO and screwed it completely. Total waist of R&D and design. I'm sure you can get a better outcome of the case if you built it by yourself.
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This is worst then my custom build over a Zotac Mek1 case. I knew the case was bad for temps and noise but I liked it so I built a SFF over it. Still I don't get even close to these temps on it. Off course a 14900K is totally different from a 5600X but coming from a brand this is totally unacceptable specially considering they went with AIO and screwed it completely. Total waist of R&D and design. I'm sure you can get a better outcome of the case if you built it by yourself.
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zackzeed
Siiiiiiigh how HARD CAN IT BE, Let the engineers Do their work and tell the marketing to commit Setuko!
Jokes aside, I really hate it when the people that know how to do their job get told by some marketing / Pr team how to do it....
Or the people that actually designed this are straightup incompetent.
Also I'm glad GN reviewed this. LTT didn't exactly do a good job with their review.
I could be remembering something wrong so correct me if I have.
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Siiiiiiigh how HARD CAN IT BE, Let the engineers Do their work and tell the marketing to commit Setuko!
Jokes aside, I really hate it when the people that know how to do their job get told by some marketing / Pr team how to do it....
Or the people that actually designed this are straightup incompetent.
Also I'm glad GN reviewed this. LTT didn't exactly do a good job with their review.
I could be remembering something wrong so correct me if I have.
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radugrigoras
This thing is what happens when engineering spends too much money on design and tooling for what is to be a low volume product. Management and marketing come in and say ok, so we got 10mil in R&D, we will sell maybe 10k units, so we have 1k per unit. We can’t stick a 14600 and a 4060 like you guys designed it for, the markup would seem ridiculous at 50%, we need to cram in the most expensive components so that it looks like only a 30% markup.
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This thing is what happens when engineering spends too much money on design and tooling for what is to be a low volume product. Management and marketing come in and say ok, so we got 10mil in R&D, we will sell maybe 10k units, so we have 1k per unit. We can’t stick a 14600 and a 4060 like you guys designed it for, the markup would seem ridiculous at 50%, we need to cram in the most expensive components so that it looks like only a 30% markup.
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ZeekMX
My 5950x will punish you for less than 360mil AIO
Let's not forget that still requires sufficient air flow of around 1000 to 2000 rpm in a 75F ambient. ( Optional fan and High Power Fan for M.2 cooling. )
This assumes you are at stock settings and CPU Core Offset Negative 0.10000 and -150 boost to cap the CPU to 4.9GHz
Be sure to activate Radeon 6800 6900 fast mem to activate normal gaming behavior. I used FR.exe from 1997 to find that out.
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My 5950x will punish you for less than 360mil AIO
Let's not forget that still requires sufficient air flow of around 1000 to 2000 rpm in a 75F ambient. ( Optional fan and High Power Fan for M.2 cooling. )
This assumes you are at stock settings and CPU Core Offset Negative 0.10000 and -150 boost to cap the CPU to 4.9GHz
Be sure to activate Radeon 6800 6900 fast mem to activate normal gaming behavior. I used FR.exe from 1997 to find that out.
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rcole134
For the cost it looks like they could have custom made a 240mm for the CPU because there is room. They could even have put normal thickness fans on it, and they could have used actual cooling on the GPU. They could have done all this whiclt keeping the price the same, but it is Corsair and that's what we get nowadays from Corsair. All pretty with bad functionality and at a price that's much higher than it should be.
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For the cost it looks like they could have custom made a 240mm for the CPU because there is room. They could even have put normal thickness fans on it, and they could have used actual cooling on the GPU. They could have done all this whiclt keeping the price the same, but it is Corsair and that's what we get nowadays from Corsair. All pretty with bad functionality and at a price that's much higher than it should be.
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Kisai_Yuki
I spent a lot of money on (a different chassis) something and my biggest beef was how the stores carried the case but not the drive bay parts, like they had assumed that people buying the case were going to stick two 140mm rads in or something. The problem with this corsair case is that they clearly had two conflicting goals, and then whoever was responsible for the GPU cooler dropped the ball.
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I spent a lot of money on (a different chassis) something and my biggest beef was how the stores carried the case but not the drive bay parts, like they had assumed that people buying the case were going to stick two 140mm rads in or something. The problem with this corsair case is that they clearly had two conflicting goals, and then whoever was responsible for the GPU cooler dropped the ball.
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gianlucaangeli
they made a custom coldplate , they could've easily made it thicker near the vram modules and use slimmer thermal pads. And yeah, use literally any form of cooling for vrm.
The CPU cooler should've been a 240mm with another intake from the back for additional cooling on the MOBO and fresh air for the GPU radiator. And at least from the video, i don't see any reason to use slim fans.
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they made a custom coldplate , they could've easily made it thicker near the vram modules and use slimmer thermal pads. And yeah, use literally any form of cooling for vrm.
The CPU cooler should've been a 240mm with another intake from the back for additional cooling on the MOBO and fresh air for the GPU radiator. And at least from the video, i don't see any reason to use slim fans.
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arch1107
i cant see the appeal for these cases with wood, venner or plastic that looks like wood, it is a waste of resources and doesnt look better, knowing one hides the pc behind the monitor if there is no space on the desk
if the mobo doesnt have the microsocode for that 14900k, why buy one to see it die the 120 mm radiator for that cpu is a crime, they really didnt knew what they were doing
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i cant see the appeal for these cases with wood, venner or plastic that looks like wood, it is a waste of resources and doesnt look better, knowing one hides the pc behind the monitor if there is no space on the desk
if the mobo doesnt have the microsocode for that 14900k, why buy one to see it die the 120 mm radiator for that cpu is a crime, they really didnt knew what they were doing
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gamersnexus
Hey Steve, can you clear out some confusion with resolution scaling I've seen a lot of misinformation about this topic, people tend to think 50% of 3840x2160 is 1920x1080 while it's actually 2715x1527. They tend to only take in account a single dimension and not two that a resolution is made of and this is evident in conversations online. I hope you can clear out these misconceptions.
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Hey Steve, can you clear out some confusion with resolution scaling I've seen a lot of misinformation about this topic, people tend to think 50% of 3840x2160 is 1920x1080 while it's actually 2715x1527. They tend to only take in account a single dimension and not two that a resolution is made of and this is evident in conversations online. I hope you can clear out these misconceptions.
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gamersnexus
The problem with prebuilts is that if you are buying one, you don’t have the knowledge necessary to even discern between a good one and a bad one. You probably don’t know about Gamers Nexus, and you wouldn’t watch anyway because it is so technical and intimidating to outsiders. You’re at the mercy of Reddit reviews you stumble onto by accident, if you do any research at all.
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The problem with prebuilts is that if you are buying one, you don’t have the knowledge necessary to even discern between a good one and a bad one. You probably don’t know about Gamers Nexus, and you wouldn’t watch anyway because it is so technical and intimidating to outsiders. You’re at the mercy of Reddit reviews you stumble onto by accident, if you do any research at all.
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XionEternum
Dude, when I was a teenager carrying groceries in for my mother, I usually had about 50lbs (23kg) across six bags in each hand that I bagged myself because I did it better than the baggers at the store. Even that tissue-thin Kroger plastic bag material couldn't cut off the circulation in my hands as I put one bag on each finger and two on each wrist. Work smarter, not harder!
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Dude, when I was a teenager carrying groceries in for my mother, I usually had about 50lbs (23kg) across six bags in each hand that I bagged myself because I did it better than the baggers at the store. Even that tissue-thin Kroger plastic bag material couldn't cut off the circulation in my hands as I put one bag on each finger and two on each wrist. Work smarter, not harder!
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Azusa-dn7mi
I dumped around 400 dollars worth of hardware a year ago just to get away from Corsair's garbage ecosystem. There is incompetence proliferating at every level of that company. Stay away.
I just hope they keep leaving Elgato alone to mostly do their own thing. The second they start integrating Elgato products into the wider Corsair world, I'm done with them, too.
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I dumped around 400 dollars worth of hardware a year ago just to get away from Corsair's garbage ecosystem. There is incompetence proliferating at every level of that company. Stay away.
I just hope they keep leaving Elgato alone to mostly do their own thing. The second they start integrating Elgato products into the wider Corsair world, I'm done with them, too.
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GGigabiteM
These are the kinds of systems that are bought by rich parents for spoiled kids and thrown in the landfill when they break in a year from thermal death.
No VRM cooling on the video card mosfets That thing is not going to survive. The GPU and memory are close to or at 100C, you can be guaranteed those mosfets are going to be double that all the time.
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These are the kinds of systems that are bought by rich parents for spoiled kids and thrown in the landfill when they break in a year from thermal death.
No VRM cooling on the video card mosfets That thing is not going to survive. The GPU and memory are close to or at 100C, you can be guaranteed those mosfets are going to be double that all the time.
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pino_de_vogel
Honestly if people are STILL buyng prebuilds they deserve all this, i have bin trying to get people to build there own pc for 2 decades now and will not support prebuilds at all. If you choose to be this ignorant then you deserve it. pretty much all of them are a compromise be it on value, build quality or component quality.
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Honestly if people are STILL buyng prebuilds they deserve all this, i have bin trying to get people to build there own pc for 2 decades now and will not support prebuilds at all. If you choose to be this ignorant then you deserve it. pretty much all of them are a compromise be it on value, build quality or component quality.
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evop
When comparing pre-builts and retail DIY, it is correct to mention that the margin for the maker is bigger thanks to bulk pricing and sales tax deductions. It can easily amount to an extra 25% earning, especially with your in-house parts (for the internal accounting they are priced at cost which is easily 1/3 of the MSRP).
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When comparing pre-builts and retail DIY, it is correct to mention that the margin for the maker is bigger thanks to bulk pricing and sales tax deductions. It can easily amount to an extra 25% earning, especially with your in-house parts (for the internal accounting they are priced at cost which is easily 1/3 of the MSRP).
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Tyler45832
I have to assume corsair just built the thing, saw it boots and posts and said good enough, without doing any testing first. The custom bios is not only unnecessary but egregious. If you can't flash a non corsair bios, then it's just ewaste bc at some point, Corsair will stop updating long before msi does. Shameful
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I have to assume corsair just built the thing, saw it boots and posts and said good enough, without doing any testing first. The custom bios is not only unnecessary but egregious. If you can't flash a non corsair bios, then it's just ewaste bc at some point, Corsair will stop updating long before msi does. Shameful
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