TRYX Crossflow ATX Case Fan Takes Risks - Flova, Panorama, & More
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Date: 2025-05-27
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robhill8197
Don't know if TRYx is going to bother reading any of these comments, but we have been using laminar flow fans in reef tanks (saltwater fish tanks) for years. If they want to apply that same concept in CPU cases moving air instead of saltwater they really need to think harder about the flow path throughout the case. Spend the extra $ it will cost them per case and add 1 top exhaust fans, 1 rear exhaust fans and 1 bottom intake. Not only will it test better in the GN testing, but it will cool better across the board and if people end up using an AIO in the top (side intake will likely test better in this case layout), they can always move the second fan somewhere like the bottom below the graphics card where it would benefit from being regardless.
Truthfully, my first setup I would try if air cooling would be no front intakes, 3 side intakes, 2 top exhaust 2 bottom intakes 1 rear exhaust the laminar flow front intake. If AIO, AIO side intake, and add a 3rd top exhaust.
If they need the additional front fans to lower temps then the implementation of the laminar flow design is just gimmicky and unnecessary. Best performance is probably 1 laminar flow intake on each side of the front but not only does that skyrocket the cost it also removes side intake/rad support.
Laminar flow is great, but you have to really consider how you plan to make those directional changes when using it, hence most laminar flow fish tanks still have to have small traditional fans for dead spots. If you're going to apply it in a PC case, where do you want to force the laminar flow to turn when it needs to SHOULD be the design goal.
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Don't know if TRYx is going to bother reading any of these comments, but we have been using laminar flow fans in reef tanks (saltwater fish tanks) for years. If they want to apply that same concept in CPU cases moving air instead of saltwater they really need to think harder about the flow path throughout the case. Spend the extra $ it will cost them per case and add 1 top exhaust fans, 1 rear exhaust fans and 1 bottom intake. Not only will it test better in the GN testing, but it will cool better across the board and if people end up using an AIO in the top (side intake will likely test better in this case layout), they can always move the second fan somewhere like the bottom below the graphics card where it would benefit from being regardless.
Truthfully, my first setup I would try if air cooling would be no front intakes, 3 side intakes, 2 top exhaust 2 bottom intakes 1 rear exhaust the laminar flow front intake. If AIO, AIO side intake, and add a 3rd top exhaust.
If they need the additional front fans to lower temps then the implementation of the laminar flow design is just gimmicky and unnecessary. Best performance is probably 1 laminar flow intake on each side of the front but not only does that skyrocket the cost it also removes side intake/rad support.
Laminar flow is great, but you have to really consider how you plan to make those directional changes when using it, hence most laminar flow fish tanks still have to have small traditional fans for dead spots. If you're going to apply it in a PC case, where do you want to force the laminar flow to turn when it needs to SHOULD be the design goal.
EDIT: spelling
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gamersnexus
I almost think crossflow fans would make sense to put horizontally into the PSU shroud because they can pull a lot of air into a much more comparatively thinner footprint in that application compared to an axial fan. This would mean providing direct airflow for the GPU while taking up (comparatively) minimal additional space inside the case, and with fewer compromises to functionality of the rest of the case. The only downside to that would be needing to put vents on the side of the case that is typically where you have a transparent material like tempered glass, but plenty of cases already have ventilation on the side PSU shroud anyway so I see this as an easy thing to adapt.
This configuration is interesting, but I feel it makes too many compromises for what it achieves. It doesn't seem to leverage the advantages of the crossflow fan, but rather seeks to replace axial fans in some capacity, which to me doesn't make sense. A horizontally-mounted GPU intake fan that pulls air from a ventilated PSU shroud to me makes far more practical sense.
Still very interesting and cool though :D
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I almost think crossflow fans would make sense to put horizontally into the PSU shroud because they can pull a lot of air into a much more comparatively thinner footprint in that application compared to an axial fan. This would mean providing direct airflow for the GPU while taking up (comparatively) minimal additional space inside the case, and with fewer compromises to functionality of the rest of the case. The only downside to that would be needing to put vents on the side of the case that is typically where you have a transparent material like tempered glass, but plenty of cases already have ventilation on the side PSU shroud anyway so I see this as an easy thing to adapt.
This configuration is interesting, but I feel it makes too many compromises for what it achieves. It doesn't seem to leverage the advantages of the crossflow fan, but rather seeks to replace axial fans in some capacity, which to me doesn't make sense. A horizontally-mounted GPU intake fan that pulls air from a ventilated PSU shroud to me makes far more practical sense.
Still very interesting and cool though :D
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GrenPara
That crossflow fan is a bad idea on so many levels.
We all know how dust sticks to other fans and it takes wrok to clean them on both sides.
Now think of the crossflow fan and think how could you clean the outside of blades with inside of blades.
Now times that by 100 if you live in humid or in smokers homes and air is not enough to even clean regular fans let alone the crossflow fan.
On top of that you now add two sets of bearings and have to worry about there failure with the crossflow fan.
I like they are trying new things but crossflow fan should never be used in a home pc in my view.
Then think of cost of the fan and the special cases you would need to use them.
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That crossflow fan is a bad idea on so many levels.
We all know how dust sticks to other fans and it takes wrok to clean them on both sides.
Now think of the crossflow fan and think how could you clean the outside of blades with inside of blades.
Now times that by 100 if you live in humid or in smokers homes and air is not enough to even clean regular fans let alone the crossflow fan.
On top of that you now add two sets of bearings and have to worry about there failure with the crossflow fan.
I like they are trying new things but crossflow fan should never be used in a home pc in my view.
Then think of cost of the fan and the special cases you would need to use them.
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sviktor4
They should commit to the crossflow fan and go all in, remove the standard fan's place from the front and include 2 bigger crossflow fan instead. The design is great, proved itself in AC units. If they play the safe game and try to introduce slowly into the market the project will fail. They need a good BDLC motor at the base and the only noise what's left is the wind noise to deal with.
Best design for liquid colling would be 2 big fans on the bottom of a case and the air pushed out on the top trough a passive radiator. Companies novadays scare to commit to a strict airflow cases like bottom to top, or front to back and start to punch holes everywhere in the case.
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They should commit to the crossflow fan and go all in, remove the standard fan's place from the front and include 2 bigger crossflow fan instead. The design is great, proved itself in AC units. If they play the safe game and try to introduce slowly into the market the project will fail. They need a good BDLC motor at the base and the only noise what's left is the wind noise to deal with.
Best design for liquid colling would be 2 big fans on the bottom of a case and the air pushed out on the top trough a passive radiator. Companies novadays scare to commit to a strict airflow cases like bottom to top, or front to back and start to punch holes everywhere in the case.
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C-M-E
Patent Pending is a cheap way to buy 'idea protection' for a short time. In most instances, companies will file for a patent, get the Pending number, but never actually file for the patent, which gives you a bit of exclusivity window. The pending form is a few hundred dollars to file, vs an actual patent which is tens of thousands of dollars.
In this case, what I see is a long squirrel cage blower with an overly inflated price. All those tower fans you see from the mid 2010s are the same working design as this. My workshop air purifier uses that design principle and cost me a whopping $25 (not including filters, the relatively expensive consumable part).
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Patent Pending is a cheap way to buy 'idea protection' for a short time. In most instances, companies will file for a patent, get the Pending number, but never actually file for the patent, which gives you a bit of exclusivity window. The pending form is a few hundred dollars to file, vs an actual patent which is tens of thousands of dollars.
In this case, what I see is a long squirrel cage blower with an overly inflated price. All those tower fans you see from the mid 2010s are the same working design as this. My workshop air purifier uses that design principle and cost me a whopping $25 (not including filters, the relatively expensive consumable part).
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wyatt8770
I used to work on a lot of heaters and ventilation systems, and often times cross flow fans would be used because their noise profile is generally less obnoxious. and when designed in very specific ways, there was enough static pressure it could push warm up through quite a bit of ducting without causing air stagnation in the coils or heat exchangers.
I'm REALLY curious if these typical benefits translate well into the PC world. I would also think a cross flow fan would be a cool idea for gaming laptops, but i understand that's a bit of a pipe dream.
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I used to work on a lot of heaters and ventilation systems, and often times cross flow fans would be used because their noise profile is generally less obnoxious. and when designed in very specific ways, there was enough static pressure it could push warm up through quite a bit of ducting without causing air stagnation in the coils or heat exchangers.
I'm REALLY curious if these typical benefits translate well into the PC world. I would also think a cross flow fan would be a cool idea for gaming laptops, but i understand that's a bit of a pipe dream.
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Elkatook666
does the length of a heat pipe have an optimal range, obviously within height tolerance... but is longer better
would it be possible to 'snake' and bend a longer pipe to fit within - lets allow a little more height, as cases are larger in the current time
eg. is it possible, i know about the 'new' 3d heat pipes shown in another video, to bend the original layout of pipes to maximise coverage over the whole fin stack... instead of straight pipes, i could make 3 diagonal passes across the same area
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does the length of a heat pipe have an optimal range, obviously within height tolerance... but is longer better
would it be possible to 'snake' and bend a longer pipe to fit within - lets allow a little more height, as cases are larger in the current time
eg. is it possible, i know about the 'new' 3d heat pipes shown in another video, to bend the original layout of pipes to maximise coverage over the whole fin stack... instead of straight pipes, i could make 3 diagonal passes across the same area
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3rdHalf1
I did a design of a laptop cooler few years ago. Considered cross flow fan, but after looking at specs from multiple manufacturers I come to a conclusion that two good quality 120mm fans push more air and are quieter than one 240mm cross flow fan.
Crossflow fans are quite good at low speeds, but at high RPM they are a lot less efficient than regular fans. Both in therms of air moved and noise.
If you CAN FIT a regular fan into design - there is absolutely no advantage to use crossflow fan.
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I did a design of a laptop cooler few years ago. Considered cross flow fan, but after looking at specs from multiple manufacturers I come to a conclusion that two good quality 120mm fans push more air and are quieter than one 240mm cross flow fan.
Crossflow fans are quite good at low speeds, but at high RPM they are a lot less efficient than regular fans. Both in therms of air moved and noise.
If you CAN FIT a regular fan into design - there is absolutely no advantage to use crossflow fan.
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bluephreakr
I don't need the displays to talk with each other wirelessly, TRYX. What I need is for the screens to be abutted in software, and for Windows to do this with its native tools. _Even better_ reprise the old-school VGA days of loop-back video attachments and create a PCI bracket with _four_ HDMI connectors; two inputs in the case, which will then loop back to two outputs on a GPU. That would simplify software implementations _immensely._
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I don't need the displays to talk with each other wirelessly, TRYX. What I need is for the screens to be abutted in software, and for Windows to do this with its native tools. _Even better_ reprise the old-school VGA days of loop-back video attachments and create a PCI bracket with _four_ HDMI connectors; two inputs in the case, which will then loop back to two outputs on a GPU. That would simplify software implementations _immensely._
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DeletedTaters001
I'd love to see what they could do with dual crossflow fans in the front pulling from each side of the case.
Make the case thinner, use vertical GPU mounts, and see what happnes.
A tall thin case with high performance and excellent acoustics.
I just don't see this being competitive against traditional fans in the same form factor.
I feel like they got to try a different shape for it to matter.
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I'd love to see what they could do with dual crossflow fans in the front pulling from each side of the case.
Make the case thinner, use vertical GPU mounts, and see what happnes.
A tall thin case with high performance and excellent acoustics.
I just don't see this being competitive against traditional fans in the same form factor.
I feel like they got to try a different shape for it to matter.
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hollywoodmeow
short-finned cylindrical fans will suffer all the drawbacks of the 25-60mm fans for NB/CPU heatsinks from slot1-socketA era decades ago (poor CFM:RPM ratio and noise), with additional issues like motor longevity due to much higher mass of the blade assembly...not to mention filtration. i appreciate companies experimenting, but this idea seems to be deliberately casting aside already-learned industry lessons.
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short-finned cylindrical fans will suffer all the drawbacks of the 25-60mm fans for NB/CPU heatsinks from slot1-socketA era decades ago (poor CFM:RPM ratio and noise), with additional issues like motor longevity due to much higher mass of the blade assembly...not to mention filtration. i appreciate companies experimenting, but this idea seems to be deliberately casting aside already-learned industry lessons.
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AdapBobotanga
Here comes Hagrid, trying to be Marques Brownlee. Well, guess what, Steve/Hagrid Marques Brownlee is credible; you are not. Marques Brownlee did not install Beta Drivers on a device, even if there is a warning that it's not recommended and will void your warranty. You still did it, then Blame Asus
Try Hard Hagrid, you will never reach the audience level of at least LTT for being narcissistic lolz
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Here comes Hagrid, trying to be Marques Brownlee. Well, guess what, Steve/Hagrid Marques Brownlee is credible; you are not. Marques Brownlee did not install Beta Drivers on a device, even if there is a warning that it's not recommended and will void your warranty. You still did it, then Blame Asus
Try Hard Hagrid, you will never reach the audience level of at least LTT for being narcissistic lolz
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villeniemi7754
I think the crossflow fan might be good fit for getting air from the bottom for the GPU. Put a pair of them and a diffuser right under the GPU and you should get pretty good airflow. The configuration shown should be good for a top down CPU cooler and vertical mount GPU Neither of which their test system has Also might be interesting in a combo for a radiator since it would allow unusual form factors.
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I think the crossflow fan might be good fit for getting air from the bottom for the GPU. Put a pair of them and a diffuser right under the GPU and you should get pretty good airflow. The configuration shown should be good for a top down CPU cooler and vertical mount GPU Neither of which their test system has Also might be interesting in a combo for a radiator since it would allow unusual form factors.
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hammerth1421
The main problem with cross-flow fans is that they are high-flow at basically no static pressure. Very useful for things like room ventilation, but even a fairly open PC case could significantly stall their flow. Laptop squirrel cages have a bad reputation for a reason, but in some ways, they are a better implementation of a tangential fan design because they actually have some static pressure.
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The main problem with cross-flow fans is that they are high-flow at basically no static pressure. Very useful for things like room ventilation, but even a fairly open PC case could significantly stall their flow. Laptop squirrel cages have a bad reputation for a reason, but in some ways, they are a better implementation of a tangential fan design because they actually have some static pressure.
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CalgarGTX
Put fabric on the case so you can generate dust locally, genius.
I don't hate the crossflow fan idea, they work in AC wall units after all, but why not have 2 one on the left and right, generate a big stream of air that way. You'd probably want a completely different case format to take full advantage of it. If you got noctua on the case they can probably make you a near completely silent one.
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Put fabric on the case so you can generate dust locally, genius.
I don't hate the crossflow fan idea, they work in AC wall units after all, but why not have 2 one on the left and right, generate a big stream of air that way. You'd probably want a completely different case format to take full advantage of it. If you got noctua on the case they can probably make you a near completely silent one.
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BeefIngot
God we need to start having a standardized pattern for cross flow fans, like 240x40x40 and 280x40x40 and then 360x40x40 or so.
They make a much nicer woosh than typical fans and I believe with a decent enough pressure for case cans and maybe even light rads.
Too bad the cases back panel is so asymmetrical with the other side.
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God we need to start having a standardized pattern for cross flow fans, like 240x40x40 and 280x40x40 and then 360x40x40 or so.
They make a much nicer woosh than typical fans and I believe with a decent enough pressure for case cans and maybe even light rads.
Too bad the cases back panel is so asymmetrical with the other side.
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FrederickKoehlmann
Damn, my OCD has kicked in. While everyone talks about the TRYX Flova crossflow fan, I'm eyeing the 4 screw heads on the top of the side fabric. Why is that the solution to hold the fabric edge Why are they not coloured to match Why isn't it a more elegant solution Oh, right, it's a demo model. Don't mind me. LOL.
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Damn, my OCD has kicked in. While everyone talks about the TRYX Flova crossflow fan, I'm eyeing the 4 screw heads on the top of the side fabric. Why is that the solution to hold the fabric edge Why are they not coloured to match Why isn't it a more elegant solution Oh, right, it's a demo model. Don't mind me. LOL.
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Salvation4U
My Computer Case is on the Hardwood floor slightly raised 2 by small blocks on all 4 corners - I would not waste money on a display and I do not care about RGB lighting - I wear active noise cancelling HeadSet so Fan noise is not a problem - Performance and Cooling are the top priority - (Gaming only on my PC's)
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My Computer Case is on the Hardwood floor slightly raised 2 by small blocks on all 4 corners - I would not waste money on a display and I do not care about RGB lighting - I wear active noise cancelling HeadSet so Fan noise is not a problem - Performance and Cooling are the top priority - (Gaming only on my PC's)
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seeker0587
Have an inwin case from 2010 and a. AIO water cooler that came with the previous cyber power also
From 2010. Never had thermal issues. Use top of line you and guy. Hottest I’ve ever saw was 76. I don’t get all this focus on the perforation and flor. lol. I got 3 random case fans that were like 5$ on temu.
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Have an inwin case from 2010 and a. AIO water cooler that came with the previous cyber power also
From 2010. Never had thermal issues. Use top of line you and guy. Hottest I’ve ever saw was 76. I don’t get all this focus on the perforation and flor. lol. I got 3 random case fans that were like 5$ on temu.
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DubsBrown
The stage makes a lot of sense when you see Y70 builds being overrun with figures.
I wonder if you could swap a Panorama cover for a stage while leaving the AIO plugged in That would be fun.
Theoretically if they had a waterblock for GPU I could see either having 2 panoramas, 2 stages, or one of each
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The stage makes a lot of sense when you see Y70 builds being overrun with figures.
I wonder if you could swap a Panorama cover for a stage while leaving the AIO plugged in That would be fun.
Theoretically if they had a waterblock for GPU I could see either having 2 panoramas, 2 stages, or one of each
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