ASRock Failures Face-to-Face: Motherboards, BIOS, & Burned 9800X3D CPUs
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Date: 2025-05-31
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user78405
pads are very close each other in tight space like that...its why intel don't have issues like that when USB pad should not be this close wtih ground or else the whole thing can easily be shorted by USB 5v over VSS ground pin that short entire board would resulted 2 ways during memory training ,longer boot that seem get stuck boot due to USB thumb drive got ground wire short would either result damage to thumb drives or pin from cpu then you have sleep issue when folks do have issue with wake the computer due pin no longer have ways to communicate is why on linux community never get to work due to driver issue or pin got lock up in voltage. It seems AMD don't have answer to that problem with linux users when it requires AMD motherboard driver firmware that only made for windows systems since it shares with ARGB sense pins when go to sleep it shuts fans, argb lights but memory argb stay on meaning there is 5v gonna , but when waking up..That 5v should not interfere with 12v you gonna have serious problems that it.had to make sure voltage resented digitally...yes its digitally signal that get told by driver ...is why using linux without driver is very dangerous when it ever get to sleep...it resulted fans speed up due to 12v passing through sleep pin that resulted fan no longer reset to correct speed. Then other issue with PBO...specially EDC levels are too high due to VRMs and users set it by error on values wrong is too high when PBO engage is why i never set it on to begin with...i do it manual OC with lower voltage that i know what correct values by spec. All this been issue within same socket amd don't want to fix and address after this silence from 2 gen so far...am5 is bad socket for that size shouldn't be all this pack in small space...amd should know better as intel does...always spread contact pads and avoid contact pins accidentally have connection on other pads that shouldn't be sharing with. This resulted the burn marks always, this is just tip of iceberg that will get wake up calls not just asrock discovery amd flaws on their socket and cpu, it affect all board vendors later on when this becoming more frequently now. AMD gonna have to remake entire socket again for zen6 so it won't happen again the same mistake twice so far. All these should not be controlled by software to save money for amd...it should be controlled onboard IC on their cpu die is hardware controlled sleep, wake, and ARGB sense hardware to know when computer is in sleep to detect voltage and wake up on its owned without software telling the voltage should be when built in IC should do itself..its why intel have it on the back of their phyiscal IC chip with all caps around it...Linux barely got source code from AMD to get sleep and wake correclty controlled by module for linux 6.15 kernel that has to be loaded by default i2c_dev during boot of their distro while windows users don't have this issue when they using amd motherboard driver that controlled ARGB and fans anyway by vendor choice or opengarb for windows
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pads are very close each other in tight space like that...its why intel don't have issues like that when USB pad should not be this close wtih ground or else the whole thing can easily be shorted by USB 5v over VSS ground pin that short entire board would resulted 2 ways during memory training ,longer boot that seem get stuck boot due to USB thumb drive got ground wire short would either result damage to thumb drives or pin from cpu then you have sleep issue when folks do have issue with wake the computer due pin no longer have ways to communicate is why on linux community never get to work due to driver issue or pin got lock up in voltage. It seems AMD don't have answer to that problem with linux users when it requires AMD motherboard driver firmware that only made for windows systems since it shares with ARGB sense pins when go to sleep it shuts fans, argb lights but memory argb stay on meaning there is 5v gonna , but when waking up..That 5v should not interfere with 12v you gonna have serious problems that it.had to make sure voltage resented digitally...yes its digitally signal that get told by driver ...is why using linux without driver is very dangerous when it ever get to sleep...it resulted fans speed up due to 12v passing through sleep pin that resulted fan no longer reset to correct speed. Then other issue with PBO...specially EDC levels are too high due to VRMs and users set it by error on values wrong is too high when PBO engage is why i never set it on to begin with...i do it manual OC with lower voltage that i know what correct values by spec. All this been issue within same socket amd don't want to fix and address after this silence from 2 gen so far...am5 is bad socket for that size shouldn't be all this pack in small space...amd should know better as intel does...always spread contact pads and avoid contact pins accidentally have connection on other pads that shouldn't be sharing with. This resulted the burn marks always, this is just tip of iceberg that will get wake up calls not just asrock discovery amd flaws on their socket and cpu, it affect all board vendors later on when this becoming more frequently now. AMD gonna have to remake entire socket again for zen6 so it won't happen again the same mistake twice so far. All these should not be controlled by software to save money for amd...it should be controlled onboard IC on their cpu die is hardware controlled sleep, wake, and ARGB sense hardware to know when computer is in sleep to detect voltage and wake up on its owned without software telling the voltage should be when built in IC should do itself..its why intel have it on the back of their phyiscal IC chip with all caps around it...Linux barely got source code from AMD to get sleep and wake correclty controlled by module for linux 6.15 kernel that has to be loaded by default i2c_dev during boot of their distro while windows users don't have this issue when they using amd motherboard driver that controlled ARGB and fans anyway by vendor choice or opengarb for windows
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michaelmonstar4276
This is a bit of a generalization or a general impression, but... while I do have some products from ASRock, I've generally seen more negativity surrounding their products than most, even ASUS (in which case it's often more because so many more people buy ASUS-products, so you will also see more negativity and possibly louder as well). - I've generally felt that they're a bit of a cheap brand. As in, they're often the cheaper offerings in literal price, but then also, the products kinda seem barebones, with a few exceptions. - I bet they also have more expensive or normal priced products, but I tend to see them have some of the lowest prices when I look for... well, the best prices. - As I said, I do have two products, but they're a bit older and not high-end, being a B450 board, one of those Fatal1ty ones (which, as someone who has been around computers since the '90s, and thus witnessed that whole pro gamer boom with that Wendell Fatal1ty guy being a champion of it in the early 2000s, was a bit of a shock to me that they still branded products with that name), as well as an Arc A580. - Both are fine and work well. The BIOS-features might leave a bit to be desired, but that's something I consider part of the pricing in a way, even though it wouldn't cost them much to just put in some more features, I suppose. - And not to say that this particular board is barebones, it actually has some nice features, but it's still a cheapER one. - Again, I've had it run in a very tight case (meaning, not the best cooling), albeit with an unimpressive CPU on it which I've also thrown a Thermalright-cooler at, and it holds up well.
But the recent high-end might be where they struggle. I can't entirely blame them if they made a small mistake, an oversight, that they might not have anticipated. - Yea, I know, it's something that shouldn't happen after engineering and testing and all that, but it really seems like there's this small thing they didn't see coming.
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This is a bit of a generalization or a general impression, but... while I do have some products from ASRock, I've generally seen more negativity surrounding their products than most, even ASUS (in which case it's often more because so many more people buy ASUS-products, so you will also see more negativity and possibly louder as well). - I've generally felt that they're a bit of a cheap brand. As in, they're often the cheaper offerings in literal price, but then also, the products kinda seem barebones, with a few exceptions. - I bet they also have more expensive or normal priced products, but I tend to see them have some of the lowest prices when I look for... well, the best prices. - As I said, I do have two products, but they're a bit older and not high-end, being a B450 board, one of those Fatal1ty ones (which, as someone who has been around computers since the '90s, and thus witnessed that whole pro gamer boom with that Wendell Fatal1ty guy being a champion of it in the early 2000s, was a bit of a shock to me that they still branded products with that name), as well as an Arc A580. - Both are fine and work well. The BIOS-features might leave a bit to be desired, but that's something I consider part of the pricing in a way, even though it wouldn't cost them much to just put in some more features, I suppose. - And not to say that this particular board is barebones, it actually has some nice features, but it's still a cheapER one. - Again, I've had it run in a very tight case (meaning, not the best cooling), albeit with an unimpressive CPU on it which I've also thrown a Thermalright-cooler at, and it holds up well.
But the recent high-end might be where they struggle. I can't entirely blame them if they made a small mistake, an oversight, that they might not have anticipated. - Yea, I know, it's something that shouldn't happen after engineering and testing and all that, but it really seems like there's this small thing they didn't see coming.
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OldManBadly
I am a casual 40 plus year lifer in the computer world. A few things I notice around the 20 minute mark when you are looking at which pins as discolored...
The design of the chip has a lot of ground pins. From my understanding, the design of the CPU would have most of these interconnected internally, at least in gangs of pins. So it is unlikely that you are going to see any excess voltage burns or discolorations in places like this, and if you did, it would be more likely to see it over a significant number of points, not just a few.
My take looking at is is that it appears to be a mechanical issue, where the socket is not mechanically enforcing enough contact between the pins and the board itself. So this is where you might see small clusters of pins that are discolored as the tension may not be equal across the socket, or the socket itself perhaps is not entirely flat, and the pressure perhaps isn't enough to overcome this. It could also be that the variance on the CPUs themselves is slightly more than the variance Asrock builds for. There really isn't a whole lot of give on the pins on the board, neither of them are going to give much.
I would suggest checking the actual contact when the cpu goes in. I am thinking that it isn't equal across the die.
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I am a casual 40 plus year lifer in the computer world. A few things I notice around the 20 minute mark when you are looking at which pins as discolored...
The design of the chip has a lot of ground pins. From my understanding, the design of the CPU would have most of these interconnected internally, at least in gangs of pins. So it is unlikely that you are going to see any excess voltage burns or discolorations in places like this, and if you did, it would be more likely to see it over a significant number of points, not just a few.
My take looking at is is that it appears to be a mechanical issue, where the socket is not mechanically enforcing enough contact between the pins and the board itself. So this is where you might see small clusters of pins that are discolored as the tension may not be equal across the socket, or the socket itself perhaps is not entirely flat, and the pressure perhaps isn't enough to overcome this. It could also be that the variance on the CPUs themselves is slightly more than the variance Asrock builds for. There really isn't a whole lot of give on the pins on the board, neither of them are going to give much.
I would suggest checking the actual contact when the cpu goes in. I am thinking that it isn't equal across the die.
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TheSydguy30
I have an AsRock motherboard for the first time (got it prior to this issue being out in the open) and it is a AsRock TaiChi (lite) and the sound just won't work for mine.
At first it did, but I couldn't customise the sound..... then installed a realtec package, gave me some more options but very meh from what I used to have on my previous Aorus board, so uninstalled the lot. Went to reinstall AsRock drivers, no sound.
No matter what I do (uninstall, even safe mode driver removal with DDU) I can no longer use the drivers....
Other uses have had issues like this but straight off the bat without installing something else after..... the windows drivers work fine..... and are the only ones that work fine (that and the other realtec) but STILL the factory AsRock ones don't work.
Contacted AsRock, they instantly get back to me saying there is no issue after testing (dunno how long they tested for getting back to me so fast) and suggested it is a faulty on board sound card...... yeah no, otherwise the other two drivers wouldn't work, it is 100% software / driver related.
They just don't seem to read things properly or don't care but yeah not a great first impression with my first buy from AsRock.... my issue and obviously the CPU burning issue.
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I have an AsRock motherboard for the first time (got it prior to this issue being out in the open) and it is a AsRock TaiChi (lite) and the sound just won't work for mine.
At first it did, but I couldn't customise the sound..... then installed a realtec package, gave me some more options but very meh from what I used to have on my previous Aorus board, so uninstalled the lot. Went to reinstall AsRock drivers, no sound.
No matter what I do (uninstall, even safe mode driver removal with DDU) I can no longer use the drivers....
Other uses have had issues like this but straight off the bat without installing something else after..... the windows drivers work fine..... and are the only ones that work fine (that and the other realtec) but STILL the factory AsRock ones don't work.
Contacted AsRock, they instantly get back to me saying there is no issue after testing (dunno how long they tested for getting back to me so fast) and suggested it is a faulty on board sound card...... yeah no, otherwise the other two drivers wouldn't work, it is 100% software / driver related.
They just don't seem to read things properly or don't care but yeah not a great first impression with my first buy from AsRock.... my issue and obviously the CPU burning issue.
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michaelgotberg8991
I think there is a general issue that I see as a trend for all MB manufacturers. Their margins are so slim and so they resort to making a ton of different MB models but then they cannot adequately support them over their lifetime.
I have an MSI b650 Tomahawk Wifi and had issues with halfcooked bioses and a MSI center that caused my CPU to go to 95W at idle. This is one of the most common boards there is and I dont trust their bioses. If there is an issue with a model they all tend to look the other way and hope it either goes away or the customer buys a different board. I think the industry would be better if the vendors had fewer models but instead put more effort into each model and also in their software suits. Esp support over the lifetime of the products is so important and they need to properly maintain their software suits. Most vendors have control software that is 99% bling and poorly maintained functions that are barely working. Most vendors try to sell their board on looks and logos. Where is the vendor that focuses on quality over the lifetime of the product The industry is killing itself.
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I think there is a general issue that I see as a trend for all MB manufacturers. Their margins are so slim and so they resort to making a ton of different MB models but then they cannot adequately support them over their lifetime.
I have an MSI b650 Tomahawk Wifi and had issues with halfcooked bioses and a MSI center that caused my CPU to go to 95W at idle. This is one of the most common boards there is and I dont trust their bioses. If there is an issue with a model they all tend to look the other way and hope it either goes away or the customer buys a different board. I think the industry would be better if the vendors had fewer models but instead put more effort into each model and also in their software suits. Esp support over the lifetime of the products is so important and they need to properly maintain their software suits. Most vendors have control software that is 99% bling and poorly maintained functions that are barely working. Most vendors try to sell their board on looks and logos. Where is the vendor that focuses on quality over the lifetime of the product The industry is killing itself.
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jaredandcande11
I would like to acknowledge an issue I have experienced with ASRock and other brand boards regarding Power Save, Displays- especially with converters for older monitors, and Audio Devices - both built in monitors and on the motherboard, and some USB devices have all seemed to have caused a flakey boot or long uptime GUI delay response situation, that is more apparent with Max Load systems like those running FoldingHome. It seems that some of these display/sound/USB devices have potential that shouldn't exist between various data, ground and power on signaling connections. Some of this inconsistent behavior is due to a possible memory incompatibility that doesn't show up until 24 hrs of runtime, that I have also reproduced on ASUS x670E Tuff-Gaming Plus. Each iteration of Bios and AGESA has improved memory behaviors, but I've tried all manor of other things to improve this situation including adding an 18 Fireplace axial blower and lowering ambient room temps to 68f.
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I would like to acknowledge an issue I have experienced with ASRock and other brand boards regarding Power Save, Displays- especially with converters for older monitors, and Audio Devices - both built in monitors and on the motherboard, and some USB devices have all seemed to have caused a flakey boot or long uptime GUI delay response situation, that is more apparent with Max Load systems like those running FoldingHome. It seems that some of these display/sound/USB devices have potential that shouldn't exist between various data, ground and power on signaling connections. Some of this inconsistent behavior is due to a possible memory incompatibility that doesn't show up until 24 hrs of runtime, that I have also reproduced on ASUS x670E Tuff-Gaming Plus. Each iteration of Bios and AGESA has improved memory behaviors, but I've tried all manor of other things to improve this situation including adding an 18 Fireplace axial blower and lowering ambient room temps to 68f.
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junonp222
I am not sure but my MSI X870E Carbon Wifi had a weird behavior with my 9800x3D yesterday. PC froze and then I got post but no windows log in screen though. I had updated to bios 7E49v1A4 and this version was giving my higher temps for whatever reason even in SW BF2 like 55c(I know not high but I will explain).
7E49v1A33 I had the previous version this one and games were all staying at 49c no matter which game with Be Quiet Light Loop 360mm but with 1A4 version jumping higher celcius. I had to reinstall windows 11 again from scratch, revert back to stable bios version 7E49v1A33 and games were yet again lower temps even actually going 46c and my gpu RTX 5080 dropped also the temps.
I believe this issue is with all motherboards in general not just AsRock cause bios updates are not optimized, tested properly but thats just my guess though.
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I am not sure but my MSI X870E Carbon Wifi had a weird behavior with my 9800x3D yesterday. PC froze and then I got post but no windows log in screen though. I had updated to bios 7E49v1A4 and this version was giving my higher temps for whatever reason even in SW BF2 like 55c(I know not high but I will explain).
7E49v1A33 I had the previous version this one and games were all staying at 49c no matter which game with Be Quiet Light Loop 360mm but with 1A4 version jumping higher celcius. I had to reinstall windows 11 again from scratch, revert back to stable bios version 7E49v1A33 and games were yet again lower temps even actually going 46c and my gpu RTX 5080 dropped also the temps.
I believe this issue is with all motherboards in general not just AsRock cause bios updates are not optimized, tested properly but thats just my guess though.
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_Kaurus
Steve you need to work on your professionalism. It's a basic inife. There isn't any reason why you can do better on this front. Not only is the poor quality of attitude and extremely unprofessional approach unenjoyable to watch, I just imagine how the people you interview feel... This is your job, maybe respect it a bit more and the people you rely on for content a too. You're not a gangster force your will on industry...you're a reporter and the people you are talking to are just people trying to do their job, likely as best as they can.... Aside from that, thank you for trying to hold these companies accountable. It's sad that the Federal Consumer Protection, what ever you guys call it, are completely useless, and you are needed to fill in.
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Steve you need to work on your professionalism. It's a basic inife. There isn't any reason why you can do better on this front. Not only is the poor quality of attitude and extremely unprofessional approach unenjoyable to watch, I just imagine how the people you interview feel... This is your job, maybe respect it a bit more and the people you rely on for content a too. You're not a gangster force your will on industry...you're a reporter and the people you are talking to are just people trying to do their job, likely as best as they can.... Aside from that, thank you for trying to hold these companies accountable. It's sad that the Federal Consumer Protection, what ever you guys call it, are completely useless, and you are needed to fill in.
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RycoonGalloy
while everyone is having failures, I haven't had any on my build, thankfully
on the 18th of march I built a 9800x3d system upgrade with an asrock b850m riptide, instantly updated it to 3.20, socket seemed fine when I inspected it, then installed the cpu with more care than if this was open heart quantum rocket surgery, only thing I did in the bios was to enable expo for the 6000mhz cl30 2x24 ram I got, and it's been running fine ever since. Max temps I've seen is 80c with an arctic liquid freezer 3 and PTM7950 thermal pad (but it's fairly warm where I live and the case I have is also on the small side)
I guess I will update to 3.25 and hope that doesn't cause any new issues to pop up
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while everyone is having failures, I haven't had any on my build, thankfully
on the 18th of march I built a 9800x3d system upgrade with an asrock b850m riptide, instantly updated it to 3.20, socket seemed fine when I inspected it, then installed the cpu with more care than if this was open heart quantum rocket surgery, only thing I did in the bios was to enable expo for the 6000mhz cl30 2x24 ram I got, and it's been running fine ever since. Max temps I've seen is 80c with an arctic liquid freezer 3 and PTM7950 thermal pad (but it's fairly warm where I live and the case I have is also on the small side)
I guess I will update to 3.25 and hope that doesn't cause any new issues to pop up
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afg-akajanpubg430
I’m sure it has something to do with CPB and PBO. Those AMD features are completely broken and unstable. My best advice to people is that to buy a Zen4 CPU, preferably a ryzen 9 7900x which is at 4.7ghz base clock and that is plenty of speed for both gaming and professional works. You don’t need X3D and definitely nobody needs an X3D that is completely a snake oil salesman kind of thing. Just buy a CPU with high base clock speed and disable both PBO and CPB, those features are not optimized very well and CPB boost your speed at random times even if it is not under heavy load and even why your PC is at Idle with no programs running.
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I’m sure it has something to do with CPB and PBO. Those AMD features are completely broken and unstable. My best advice to people is that to buy a Zen4 CPU, preferably a ryzen 9 7900x which is at 4.7ghz base clock and that is plenty of speed for both gaming and professional works. You don’t need X3D and definitely nobody needs an X3D that is completely a snake oil salesman kind of thing. Just buy a CPU with high base clock speed and disable both PBO and CPB, those features are not optimized very well and CPB boost your speed at random times even if it is not under heavy load and even why your PC is at Idle with no programs running.
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thseed7
ASRock sitting down for the on the spot meeting is a solid step. I hope they realize that communication never hurts. Covering up issues does. Steve is correct in suggesting that a company doesn’t need to make definitive statements and that a simple acknowledgement is all we need to be able to protect our PC. If you lie about or don’t share information that you knew could be harmful people won’t trust that you have good intentions, that you have the customer’s best interest at heart or that the products you sell are worth buying. You do far more damage to your reputation by omission and denial than by admission and acknowledgement.
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ASRock sitting down for the on the spot meeting is a solid step. I hope they realize that communication never hurts. Covering up issues does. Steve is correct in suggesting that a company doesn’t need to make definitive statements and that a simple acknowledgement is all we need to be able to protect our PC. If you lie about or don’t share information that you knew could be harmful people won’t trust that you have good intentions, that you have the customer’s best interest at heart or that the products you sell are worth buying. You do far more damage to your reputation by omission and denial than by admission and acknowledgement.
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LegacyStar
Honestly doesn't feel like much has changed internally from when I last used one of their boards in 2013. Back then there was an issue with the ground plane (Or something related), on there z87 boards. After a month of back and forth, support eventually ghosted me. To their credit, they did ship me 3 separate boards, for free, but the promise to swap for a different model never happened. Support didn't have the tools on hand to test, couldn't replicate the issue, and seemed to think it was one of the other components, despite me swapping literally every other part. Only replacing the board with a different brand removed the issue.
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Honestly doesn't feel like much has changed internally from when I last used one of their boards in 2013. Back then there was an issue with the ground plane (Or something related), on there z87 boards. After a month of back and forth, support eventually ghosted me. To their credit, they did ship me 3 separate boards, for free, but the promise to swap for a different model never happened. Support didn't have the tools on hand to test, couldn't replicate the issue, and seemed to think it was one of the other components, despite me swapping literally every other part. Only replacing the board with a different brand removed the issue.
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joshgrinder7442
I believe Chris at ASRock is right. (Thank you Chris for being a man and going on camera and to Steve for being THE man and a great advocate for PC enthusiasts.) I have been running a 9600x on a A620i. I initially I had issues with my G.Skill 24gb memory but the 3.2 bios fixed the memory issue. However, my CPU was running idle at 32c before and with 3.2 bios it started running idle temps at about 43c with a hotspot of 54c at idle! I just updated to 3.25 3 days ago and temps dropped back to the low to mid 30's at idle. I don't have a x3d chip at the moment to test with but the symptoms are there...
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I believe Chris at ASRock is right. (Thank you Chris for being a man and going on camera and to Steve for being THE man and a great advocate for PC enthusiasts.) I have been running a 9600x on a A620i. I initially I had issues with my G.Skill 24gb memory but the 3.2 bios fixed the memory issue. However, my CPU was running idle at 32c before and with 3.2 bios it started running idle temps at about 43c with a hotspot of 54c at idle! I just updated to 3.25 3 days ago and temps dropped back to the low to mid 30's at idle. I don't have a x3d chip at the moment to test with but the symptoms are there...
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DCAMM720
I've tried using Asrock boards several times in the past and even have one in my current rig but have 100% of the time always had issues with them. Memory compatibility issues(despite what list says they work with), BIOS issues with all of them, and with my current one even weird crashes that I finally isolated to something to do with the MB that may be BIOS but still not sure. Currently looking into something else because when I've tried to get support, I can't seem to get any. (not running a X3D variation currently so my issues may be different but still leaves a bad taste for the brand.)
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I've tried using Asrock boards several times in the past and even have one in my current rig but have 100% of the time always had issues with them. Memory compatibility issues(despite what list says they work with), BIOS issues with all of them, and with my current one even weird crashes that I finally isolated to something to do with the MB that may be BIOS but still not sure. Currently looking into something else because when I've tried to get support, I can't seem to get any. (not running a X3D variation currently so my issues may be different but still leaves a bad taste for the brand.)
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ctrlectrld
6:13 first of all, thanks Steve
Guy gets it
Btw, the whole thing is a bit confusing. We know that the issue involves the 9000 series, but then when it comes to the chipsets things get more nebulous; is it the new chipsets Is it the old ones as well (like x670e) Is the 7000 series safe As owner of an x670e Steel Legend 7800X3D, should I be worried I am on bios v 3.16 since a few months, should I update to the latest Should I stay on 3.16 I'd love for you guys to try and push Asrock in making things more clear. Meanwhile, thanks Steve.
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6:13 first of all, thanks Steve
Guy gets it
Btw, the whole thing is a bit confusing. We know that the issue involves the 9000 series, but then when it comes to the chipsets things get more nebulous; is it the new chipsets Is it the old ones as well (like x670e) Is the 7000 series safe As owner of an x670e Steel Legend 7800X3D, should I be worried I am on bios v 3.16 since a few months, should I update to the latest Should I stay on 3.16 I'd love for you guys to try and push Asrock in making things more clear. Meanwhile, thanks Steve.
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richarddesimone960
Its because everyone thinks that over clocking is the way to better gaming. When its not. If you have to overclock your AMD then you should have got intel and would have no reason to overclock the cpu.
I wonder if the cpu had a half working chip and just smoked themself. this is why you never go with a coat tail company like AMD.
Also asus does not have a good track record. Every single motherboard i have gotten from asus have died.
So over clocking and shitty products are the end result of this.
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Its because everyone thinks that over clocking is the way to better gaming. When its not. If you have to overclock your AMD then you should have got intel and would have no reason to overclock the cpu.
I wonder if the cpu had a half working chip and just smoked themself. this is why you never go with a coat tail company like AMD.
Also asus does not have a good track record. Every single motherboard i have gotten from asus have died.
So over clocking and shitty products are the end result of this.
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shroom2967
I had a pre-built a while ago that I ended up returning after was having issues alot with the cpu, eventually it going dead. And funny enough it had a asrock mobo and a 9800x3d. I remember then looking up things about 9800x3ds burning up in general and I blamed the cpu atp. Maybe it was the mobo too and I just didn't know lol. Regardless, happy with my new pc which is a 7800x3d and 9070xt vs the other one which had a 7800xt for the GPU. Both the parts are gigabyte for the new pc, and it's been solid.
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I had a pre-built a while ago that I ended up returning after was having issues alot with the cpu, eventually it going dead. And funny enough it had a asrock mobo and a 9800x3d. I remember then looking up things about 9800x3ds burning up in general and I blamed the cpu atp. Maybe it was the mobo too and I just didn't know lol. Regardless, happy with my new pc which is a 7800x3d and 9070xt vs the other one which had a 7800xt for the GPU. Both the parts are gigabyte for the new pc, and it's been solid.
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D3lor34n
I really enjoy leaving Asus after 25 years of brand loyalty and building my most expensive pc ever on an Asrock 870E board with a 9800X3D. Great experience, every day you wonder if your pc will turn on or if it blows itself up. Asrock doesn't seem to have a clue what's going on either, despite repeatedly saying they do. This hobby man, between GPUs, melting connectors and this board/cpu tripwire.. it never was so little fun for me. And i started on frickin Pentium 2s.
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I really enjoy leaving Asus after 25 years of brand loyalty and building my most expensive pc ever on an Asrock 870E board with a 9800X3D. Great experience, every day you wonder if your pc will turn on or if it blows itself up. Asrock doesn't seem to have a clue what's going on either, despite repeatedly saying they do. This hobby man, between GPUs, melting connectors and this board/cpu tripwire.. it never was so little fun for me. And i started on frickin Pentium 2s.
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Felsenherzz
I changed to an ASRock X670-E Taichi just when AM5 platform was new. It gave me 2 minute boot time and regular hard system crashes during gaming. I decided, number one, never change to a new platform too early and second, never buy ASRock again. I changed back to my MSI X570 board which never crashed in 5 years. I think there are some ASRock engineers who are not doing a good job and I don't trust them ever since. Interesting to see that my gut feeling was right.
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I changed to an ASRock X670-E Taichi just when AM5 platform was new. It gave me 2 minute boot time and regular hard system crashes during gaming. I decided, number one, never change to a new platform too early and second, never buy ASRock again. I changed back to my MSI X570 board which never crashed in 5 years. I think there are some ASRock engineers who are not doing a good job and I don't trust them ever since. Interesting to see that my gut feeling was right.
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mikel5077
I have used asrock. for yearrs, never had an issue... I switched to MSI when I bought my 9800x3d combo at micro center because it was either that or asus.. couple weeks ago The MSI took a crap after 6 months 2 of the NVME slots failed.... Thank god for the service Plan took the MSI back to micro and I went back to an asrock board. Never had issues with ASrock, Acutally going to get an ASrock 7900XTX as well..
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I have used asrock. for yearrs, never had an issue... I switched to MSI when I bought my 9800x3d combo at micro center because it was either that or asus.. couple weeks ago The MSI took a crap after 6 months 2 of the NVME slots failed.... Thank god for the service Plan took the MSI back to micro and I went back to an asrock board. Never had issues with ASrock, Acutally going to get an ASrock 7900XTX as well..
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