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Boom Supersonic Attempts a Return to Commercial Supersonic Flight

Boom Supersonic Attempts a Return to Commercial Supersonic Flight

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Boom Supersonic is a startup aviation manufacturer with an audacious goal: To return to Commercial Supersonic Flight with their new supersonic jet! In this video, youll see a bit of background about Boom Supersonic and their Boom XB-1 and Boom Overture aircraft as well as some of the challenges Boom Supersonic will face as they attempt to return to Commercial Supersonic Flight. Youll even hear some of what the CEO of Boom Supersonic, Blake Scholl, has said we can expect from what the Boom Overture Commercial Supersonic Plane will mean. Ill highlight some of your comments about the program from Instagram and even share my own perspective. After all, Boom Supersonic just announced they plan to manufacture their Overture aircraft at a new facility theyre building in my hometown, Greensboro, NC
Date: 2023-08-28

Comments and reviews: 30


Carbon neutral aside (since the current planes are not carbon neutral anyway, in my mind, there are three operational problems that Boom needs to resolve: 1. fuel efficiency, 2. sonic boom and 3. range. It at least needs to be as fuel efficient as the 777 or ideally the 787/A350, so the plane tickets are not much higher than what the current planes would offer (forget about that $100 thing. And if it cannot resolve the problem of sonic boom, it means that it cannot be used to fly Asia-Europe routes, US West Coast-Europe routes, US East Coast-Asia routes, N/S America routes. That takes a large segment of the potential market out. The range was an issue with Concorde. Boom needs to have the range for East Asia-Europe routes and US West Coast-East Asia routes (i. e. about 6, 500nm) to allow it to cover most potential markets. That means Boom will need to come up with a design and the technology (e. g. engines, etc) for these 3 items. The other issue for Boom is that it is not going to carry much belly hold cargo, so the passenger ticket will have to cover operating cost, unlike in the case of long range 787/A350 flights that the cargo can help a lot sometimes in some routes. That puts more pressure on the fuel efficiency issue.
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I'M SKEPTICAL. WILL BOOM GO BUST, AND BECOME THE NEXT THERONOS? Boom Avaition has no prototype, no completed plans drawn up for their plane(s, they've offered no design for their jet engines, and cannot explain what kind of fuel formula will both be carbon free, AND with the abality to create power to propel their plane to such a high speed.
They also claim their plane will not cause a sonic boom, and even claim the cost to passengers will be comparable to a business-class seat.
Sorry, this smells like a fantasy.
If Boom Avaition is soliciting and collecting money from investors, this may well end up crashing like a rock.
Theranos was a medical tech company founded and headed by Elizabeth Holmes.
Holmes claimed to have created a new blood testing method and device that would be more comfortable as well as easier and cheaper to use.
But then it was revealed Theranos was a fraud. No such blood test device existed!
Holmes was arrested and tried for investor fraud, convicted, and may be facing up to 20 years in prison!
Will Boom Avaition end up like Theranos?

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I want this to work, but I think the skepticism is very warranted. Jon makes a great point about engine development timelines, SAF so far seems like a greenwashing scam that will take a long time to be available at the scale needed to fuel commercial aviation. There's also the problem of the Boom. Boom don't seem to be doing anything to mitigate it, thus restricting the Overture to overwater flying only. This is fine to TATL and TPAC flights, except that the Overture's range is not sufficient for non-stop TPAC flights, and even TATL could be a stretch. We should probably also expect the exact same environmental activist opposition that helped scuttle Concorde to be a major challenge to Overture.
I'm here for the romanticism, and I absolutely share the dream of one day being able to take a supersonic flight, but I just don't see this being the way commercial aviation is gonna develop for quite some time. I would dearly love to be proven wrong.

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HI JEB! HOW ARE YOU AND SUZANNE? I'M SORRY, JEB, BUT FLYING SUPERSONIC ON THE CONCORDE WAS ALWAYS THE MOST EXPENSIVE TICKET IN THE WORLD! AND WHILE I'M SURE THAT WITH MODERN JET ENGINES, LIKE THE ONES IN THE F-22 RAPTOR, AND F-35 LIGHTNING 2, A MODERN SST COULD SUPERCRUISE MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY TODAY, BUT, $100. 00 TICKETS? FOR FASTEST, MOST COMPLICATED AIRLINER IN THE WORLD? SORRY! THAT'S LIKE THAT ELECTRIC CAR STARTUP APTERA, THE 3 WHEELER SAPCESHIP ON THE ROAD, SAYING THEY CAN GO, WITH THEIR LARGEST BATTERY PACK, 1000 MILES ( and no, they didn't mean kilomiters! ) BETWEEN CHARGES! BUT NO INDEPENDENT TESTING AGENCY EVER SAID THEY TESTED IT WITH THEM! SO, GOOD LUCK TO THESE GUYS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD ROAD TO FOLLOW! AND YEAH, NAMING YOUR COMPANY AFTER A SOUND ALL AIRPLANES MAKE WHEN THEY CRASH SEEMS LAME TO ME TOO! BUT IT WILL GET YOU NOTICED! CHAS ORVIS, PLAINVILLE, CT.
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The only way this could even come close is if Elon Musk was behind it. 60, 000 feet - that is pushing into SR-71 territory. You can see the curvature of the earth at that height. I worked (as a software developer) for AA in the middle 80's and enjoyed a 90% discount on British Air. I used it to fly from London to NYC (still cost $340, a lot of money for a kid making $30k) on the Concorde. I'd take AA First Class (which cost me $10 then) over the Concorde any day of the week. The extra time is well worth not flying in a tiny cabin that is so damn loud you can barely talk to anyone. It was marketed as the lap of luxury, but it was far from it. It did offer amazing food and all you could ever drink. The cabin crew was top-notch. Another thing it offered was a spectacular lounge, but you get the same if in First Class. I've never been in that big a hurry to get to of from Europe.
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As much as Id love to take a trip on a Boom, I dont think it will happen as they plan. Actually, I think that the product might have already become obsolete.
Why is time so important anyway? Who would want to leave home in the morning, jet across the pond for a meeting and get back in time for a late dinner, when you could just have that meeting online? Why the expense? Why the hassle?
And of course we will continue to meet up in person and meetings and conferences will still be incredibly important. But dont you think that those will be scheduled over a period of a few days, to make it worth the effort?
Take it from one whos done this. Got up at five, meeting by ten, home by nine. Two days later and Im at it again. Its exhausting! In the end I made sure to schedule things to line up and then got a hotel. :)

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Love the Explorer 2 wall clock. As for Boom, theres positive thinking, and then theres unrealistic La La Land Blowing Smoke up Your. and telling the world youll do this on a timeline that even a well established airplane manufacturer would never expect to meet.
Could a new manufacturer:
Build a super sonic airplane? Probably
That carrys more than 20 or 40 or 100 people? - its maybe possible
That is GREEN / Carbon Neutral / Eco Friendly? - depends on the definition
Flying within 3 years? - Definitely NOT
In operation carrying passengers in 8 years? - The Silliness continues
For $100 per person? - If theres anything in the Universe that you DONT believe, this should be it!

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My fear is the project is going to fail due to their carbon neutral proposition, if they cant get it to 0 emissions (which tbh I dont believe anything is 100% carbon neutral/emissions free) then its going to kill the overseas market, specifically the ones in Asia, and more specifically Japan, its arguable that Japan basically killed Concorde because of its smokey engines if Japan doesnt buy Boom, then I feel like itll become another another Concorde with limited service and limited ownership. I really hope Im wrong about it Id like to see an American company rise up and challenge the international markets like it used to be.
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My only concern is the effect this added traffic will have on general aviation in the area. As a student pilot, GSO really is just about the perfect place to learn to fly. You get the benefits of learning to communicate with ATC early on, readily available radar services for instrument training, and realatively mild weather, all without the extra traffic that you'd experience at an airport like RDU or heaven forbid CLT. As it stands now, runway 5L/23R is almost entirely used for smaller GA aircraft unless the parallel runway is closed. It will be interesting to see how this changes over the coming decades.
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Sounds amazing, possibly too good to be true!
Sonic boom was the death Nell for Concorde ultimately. Vast areas it couldn't fly and lack of onward use or flexibility is the A380's Achilles heel.
The fact that united have declared an interest is. interesting considering the sonic boom issue and maybe Boom have rectified this which would be revolutionary.
Or. cynical me thinks maybe United have a vested interest before a flotation?
Time will. tell. so how many takes. to get. the BTTF reference in?
Interesting, informative and heartfelt video as always.

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Jed Brooks The British Concorde 002 was built and flew from my home town of Bristol and Bristol has 2 Concordes one in the hangar and one as a Museum plus my late father Peter worked for Rolls Royce on the Same Airfield Concorde flew from.
. I am really motivated for boom and I would love to see both British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Delta and American Airlines to put in big orders for boom if I could fly from London or Manchester to California in 6 hours that would be a positive or London to Sydney in 10 hours even better Happy flying Jed.

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Love the video Jeb! Skepticisms aside I cant wait to see the Boom Supersonic Overtures flying! Also love the GSO feature with the Honda Jet being built there and now the Boom Overture! Wow! Tell Blake Scholl CEO of Boom & Scott Kirby the CEO of United Airlines Id love to fly on the Inaugural Overture supersonic United flight! Count me in!
Also at 5: 26 I think The Cirrus Aircraft corporation is looking for a new area to build a bigger better factory for their Cirrus SR-22 aircraft, GSO would be a great fit!

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Very interesting video, you just knew Concorde wasn't the end of it for commercial supersonic air travel. $100 fare supersonic fares sounds very crazy. $500 transatlantic is closer to reality probably already happening with low cost airlines, but to get that with supersonic longer distances and shorter times, seems like it could happen. As for that mega aviation factory, I'd say it could help bring Bombardier back to life after they had to sell to Airbus which in turn built the A220s in the US.
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I'm sorry jeb but what a load of BS. The world had a supersonic airplane but because I'm sorry to say that because america didn't invent it, then they didn't what it and the america government put pressure on other countries not to buy it. I suggest you listen to a pod cast on the pan am museum website. You can clearly hear when JFK heard that Mr Juan Trippe had place an order of concorde instead of a US version then he when nuts. Concorde only had one crash ever when other planes had many
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Wow. finally someone has decided to bring back a supersonic passenger plane.
Like many of my vintage, I remember the Concorde. I was in high school, in Melbourne, Australia, when she made her final approach into Tullamarine Airport, flying right across our school. She was to me (at the time) a beautiful, sleek, aircraft with amazing technology.
Like you, I doubt if $100 flights will happen in the near future. but we can dream, can't we?

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I think the reason for their choice of name is because the main obstacle they need to overcome is to reduce the sonic boom, and I firmly believe they can do it. I do not however believe that the plane can be carbon neutral and I am 100% sure that there will never be a time where tickets on one of their planes will be available to the general public for $100 (it is not possible now and inflation is not working in their favor.
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I think that we may see a usable prototype or even a final product, but I think a lot of their claims are just too out there. The pricing scheme just reminds me of all of the EV car startups. They all claim that they will be able to produce a product at a reasonable price, but then realize that actually building them takes a lot of capitol and results in the final product being substantially more expensive.
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Id love for all of this to pan out like theyre promising. That said, I am very skeptical that it will. All their projections about jobs created and impact on the local economy are just projections for now, and those numbers are almost always optimistic even when the promised project comes to fruition. And when they dont well, look up what Foxconn did for Wisconsin after the state promised them a huge tax break.
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Unless they get the regulations about supersonic speeds over land lifted, this is really going to remain a niche aircraft. And the idea of flights being cheap on this thing seem far fetched at best to me. Unless they come up with some way for airlines to completely redo their pricing structure I'm not sure how flights that make sense with a plane like this would be financially feasible for $100pp.
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Yeah it's gonna run weekend special s 59 dollars NY, NY - Paris, France,
XB1 looking forward get hopping the Engines shouldn't be a proper response build them number too their mainframe developer composition is already allocated funds and ahead of time schedule also shake your hipps Boom Boom that's the claim too Fame ' shake emm Boom Boom!

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Such mixed feelings about this. Since I never had the opportunity to fly the Concorde I would love to fly on this plane when it goes into service. On the other hand considering the history of supersonic transport and the difficulties of developing a new plane and getting certified, I wonder if it can happen but I would love it to happen.
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Thank you for the video! I am struggling to believe the $100 for four hours. Still, you never know! I wish I had gone on a Concorde while there were still a possibility.
PS: At the end of the video, when you hinted you want to be invited to the inaugural, It was noble of you not to demand that Denis be left at home! LOL!

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The early concepts are stating it would be a business class only layout. The $100 ticket will never happen if that's the strategy for configuration of the aircraft and I don't see United moving off of that configuration to place an economy class seating/pricing in that aircraft just from a margin perspective.
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Concorde 2. 0 will never happen. It just would cost too much for Airlines to operate & too develop. Really only 2 companies could build it Airbus who simply are overwhelmed with orders & Boeing whos management is a total mess & would have trouble building anything at the moment.
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Supersonic air travel potentially being back in the commercial aviation industry is interesting. Really makes you think about what the future of commercial aviation will look like. This would be a cool aircraft to watch become a reality.
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Let's bring on home that sustainable fuel plant. We already have a lot of fuel tanks and I know that ethanol pilot wasn't a total bust. (First time catching your videos, congrats on Fox 8 and maintaining the blog for so long)
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The $100 price point seems a tad bit optimistic to me. Even if they are just saying thats the cost of operation per person that seems ridiculously low. Im excited to watch this project though. Id really like to see them succeed.
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Im staying optimistic but I cant help but think about how many orders Concorde originally had as well as how publicized the Boeing 2707 SST and even the Boeing Sonic Cruiser were before ultimately being cancelled.
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Once boom actually creates and delivers on what they promise watch how Boeing Airbus and Lockheed want to play catch up suddenly! When boom does make their SST what will the value of a Boeing 737 Max be?
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On a trip to London years ago a friend brought me to a spot in the city where of an evening two concordes passed over in close proximity to land at Heathrow. Coming from different parts of the world.
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