Audi vs BMW vs Mercedes, Which is Worse
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Date: 2020-01-12
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Watcher3223
All of them are expensive in their upkeep and have horrible residual value, but. From Best to Worst1. Mercedes-Benz2. BMW3. AudiIf you wanted a comparison to American automakers, Mercedes-Benz would be equivalent to Ford. BMW is equivalent to GM. Audi is equivalent to Chrysler. One problem with all of these German marques are their complex engineering and convoluted assembly, requiring a high level of expertise and proprietary equipment of the repair techs, making them less commonly available, thus making the available labor more expensive to use. And many repairs may also require more time than is typical to perform compared to other cars, which you must pay for. There is prolific use of crappy German plastics throughout, which tend to go brittle more quickly compared to plastics from elsewhere. The plastics are also used in places where their failure can precipitate drivetrain problems or even drivetrain failure. Of course, the Germans are not unique to this phenomenon, but they tend to be the worst offenders. There's limited availability of replacement parts, requiring trips to the dealer to obtain them to repair the car at considerable cost. If you hired a repair garage to fix your car and they were the ones to order it, then they will mark up the price of the part for their own profit, which compounds the cost. Ergo, because they all have these problems, their differences would be really to what degree that they have them. Mercedes-Benz is, arguably, less of a problem with these issues, though repairing these problems remains a costly proposition to the owner. BMW is somewhere in between, sometimes being closer to Mercedes-Benz and other times being closer to Audi. Audi is the worst.
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All of them are expensive in their upkeep and have horrible residual value, but. From Best to Worst1. Mercedes-Benz2. BMW3. AudiIf you wanted a comparison to American automakers, Mercedes-Benz would be equivalent to Ford. BMW is equivalent to GM. Audi is equivalent to Chrysler. One problem with all of these German marques are their complex engineering and convoluted assembly, requiring a high level of expertise and proprietary equipment of the repair techs, making them less commonly available, thus making the available labor more expensive to use. And many repairs may also require more time than is typical to perform compared to other cars, which you must pay for. There is prolific use of crappy German plastics throughout, which tend to go brittle more quickly compared to plastics from elsewhere. The plastics are also used in places where their failure can precipitate drivetrain problems or even drivetrain failure. Of course, the Germans are not unique to this phenomenon, but they tend to be the worst offenders. There's limited availability of replacement parts, requiring trips to the dealer to obtain them to repair the car at considerable cost. If you hired a repair garage to fix your car and they were the ones to order it, then they will mark up the price of the part for their own profit, which compounds the cost. Ergo, because they all have these problems, their differences would be really to what degree that they have them. Mercedes-Benz is, arguably, less of a problem with these issues, though repairing these problems remains a costly proposition to the owner. BMW is somewhere in between, sometimes being closer to Mercedes-Benz and other times being closer to Audi. Audi is the worst.
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Ray S
Scotty, the 2004 F250 engine will not last a long time if it is the 6. 0 Diesel. The 6. 0 was the most unreliable engine Ford ever used. On the other hand, in 2004 they started using the Torq-Shift transmission, which was EXTREMELY reliable. I saw one that a guy drove filled with water for 4000 miles The fluid looked like Pepto Bismol. The only reason he brought the truck in to the shop was for an oil change and he said the transmission shifted a little funny sometimes. I found out that he went through a flooded wash and bottomed out the truck. It broke off the transmission dipstick tube and sucked in water. The truck was new at that time and Ford replaced the transmission under warranty because the dipstick tube should have never broken off from a full suspension travel event. Unfortunately, since it was a 6. 0 Diesel, he was always getting the thing towed in for one failure after another. He eventually got it bought back.
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Scotty, the 2004 F250 engine will not last a long time if it is the 6. 0 Diesel. The 6. 0 was the most unreliable engine Ford ever used. On the other hand, in 2004 they started using the Torq-Shift transmission, which was EXTREMELY reliable. I saw one that a guy drove filled with water for 4000 miles The fluid looked like Pepto Bismol. The only reason he brought the truck in to the shop was for an oil change and he said the transmission shifted a little funny sometimes. I found out that he went through a flooded wash and bottomed out the truck. It broke off the transmission dipstick tube and sucked in water. The truck was new at that time and Ford replaced the transmission under warranty because the dipstick tube should have never broken off from a full suspension travel event. Unfortunately, since it was a 6. 0 Diesel, he was always getting the thing towed in for one failure after another. He eventually got it bought back.
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ImmortalInflames
The pontiac G8 is a badge commodore, and commodores down under are damn reliable vehiclesI can't speak to what America did to them, but over here in Australia they represent great value for cost, reliability & performance. I've got a varient of the commodore, a wagon (body by holden) with the LS1, 4L65e (auto) & Subaru AWD. (holden adventra / hsv avalanche) I've had 2 of them over the past 15 years, only sold the V6 for the V8 to tow my caravan. My father also has one and he is about to touch 450, 000km and it's still singing
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The pontiac G8 is a badge commodore, and commodores down under are damn reliable vehiclesI can't speak to what America did to them, but over here in Australia they represent great value for cost, reliability & performance. I've got a varient of the commodore, a wagon (body by holden) with the LS1, 4L65e (auto) & Subaru AWD. (holden adventra / hsv avalanche) I've had 2 of them over the past 15 years, only sold the V6 for the V8 to tow my caravan. My father also has one and he is about to touch 450, 000km and it's still singing
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Timur S
Audis are waaay more reliable than BMW's. Ppl will always buy BMW's no matter what. They're like iPhones. Audi can't afford to make crappy cars for long. They don't have the name recognition in NA. Also, everyone who complains about Audi reliability most likely never owned an Audi in the first place. The way I see it, if you enjoy driving, you have to pay premium ( Mind you, I d never buy a new Audi- too expensive. If you don't care about that, buy a Toyota and don't expect much in terms of driving experience.
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Audis are waaay more reliable than BMW's. Ppl will always buy BMW's no matter what. They're like iPhones. Audi can't afford to make crappy cars for long. They don't have the name recognition in NA. Also, everyone who complains about Audi reliability most likely never owned an Audi in the first place. The way I see it, if you enjoy driving, you have to pay premium ( Mind you, I d never buy a new Audi- too expensive. If you don't care about that, buy a Toyota and don't expect much in terms of driving experience.
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Terry Brown
So I'm not trying to start anything, but Pontiac didn't go out of business because of their cars. GM went bankrupt (as usual) and asked for a bailout from the government and the conditions for that bailout was to get rid of some of their brands. So Hummer, Pontiac, and Oldsmobile went out the door. Now that's not to say sales weren't bad and they weren't already out the door, I'm not disputing that fact at all. But to say that some of their cars are what caused them to seize operations is just plain wrong
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So I'm not trying to start anything, but Pontiac didn't go out of business because of their cars. GM went bankrupt (as usual) and asked for a bailout from the government and the conditions for that bailout was to get rid of some of their brands. So Hummer, Pontiac, and Oldsmobile went out the door. Now that's not to say sales weren't bad and they weren't already out the door, I'm not disputing that fact at all. But to say that some of their cars are what caused them to seize operations is just plain wrong
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DK knight
Scotty Kilmer Relating to the Pontiac G8 question, there are probably other reasons went went down, but the G8 is a rebranded Holden Commodore from Australia, that was brought over to bring back the Pontiac name and the performance of a rear-wheel drive muscle car. They are in high demand, limited, but finding one at an affordable price is tricky sometimes. As a Auto tech myself, I appreciate your videos. They keep me updated on things I may never come across. Keep up the good work
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Scotty Kilmer Relating to the Pontiac G8 question, there are probably other reasons went went down, but the G8 is a rebranded Holden Commodore from Australia, that was brought over to bring back the Pontiac name and the performance of a rear-wheel drive muscle car. They are in high demand, limited, but finding one at an affordable price is tricky sometimes. As a Auto tech myself, I appreciate your videos. They keep me updated on things I may never come across. Keep up the good work
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dalton knox
Sometimes Toyota drop the ball. After a Camry and a Supra, I got a 2001 Tundra. At 40K the brakes began to judder. Turns out this was a common problem because the rear drum brakes on the truck do nothing and the front discs overheat. Toyota acknowledged that this was a common problem due to poor design, but refused to fix it (out of warranty. With EBC rotors and pads, the problem did not recur and because I did it myself was fairly cheap, but it did dent my image of Toyota.
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Sometimes Toyota drop the ball. After a Camry and a Supra, I got a 2001 Tundra. At 40K the brakes began to judder. Turns out this was a common problem because the rear drum brakes on the truck do nothing and the front discs overheat. Toyota acknowledged that this was a common problem due to poor design, but refused to fix it (out of warranty. With EBC rotors and pads, the problem did not recur and because I did it myself was fairly cheap, but it did dent my image of Toyota.
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Timur S
Audis are waaay more reliable than BMW's. Ppl will always buy BMW's no matter what. They're like iPhones. Audi can't afford to make crappy cars for long. Also, everyone who complains about Audi reliability most likely never owned an Audi in the first place. The way I see it, if you enjoy driving, you have to pay premium ( Mind you, I d never buy a new Audi- too expensive. If you don't care about that, buy a Toyota and don't expect much in terms of driving experience.
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Audis are waaay more reliable than BMW's. Ppl will always buy BMW's no matter what. They're like iPhones. Audi can't afford to make crappy cars for long. Also, everyone who complains about Audi reliability most likely never owned an Audi in the first place. The way I see it, if you enjoy driving, you have to pay premium ( Mind you, I d never buy a new Audi- too expensive. If you don't care about that, buy a Toyota and don't expect much in terms of driving experience.
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sao yang
3 of my closest cousins got a BMW each and all of their cars experience problems after 4 years of ownership. 5th year was a disaster and the vehicle needed monthly visits to the dealership. One cousin gave up on the 6th year, the other two could not save enough money for a decent car after all the repairs. So they had to suffer 1-2 more years before they can save enough for a down payment toward their new cars. 6-8 years of working just to get back to square one.
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3 of my closest cousins got a BMW each and all of their cars experience problems after 4 years of ownership. 5th year was a disaster and the vehicle needed monthly visits to the dealership. One cousin gave up on the 6th year, the other two could not save enough money for a decent car after all the repairs. So they had to suffer 1-2 more years before they can save enough for a down payment toward their new cars. 6-8 years of working just to get back to square one.
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