The Truth About GMs Huge Layoffs and Why You Should Be Mad About It
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Date: 2019-05-28
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Carol Sears
Ill never buy another GM vehicle. Not because of GMs plant closings, or their failure to pay back their bailout, or anything politically related to those things. The reason I wont buy another GM product is because they are garbage, and theyre purposely designed to be difficult to work on and repair. If youve ever worked on a Cobalt, or an Impala, or full-size Chevy or GMC truck, you know what I mean. Not only are many of the critical components such as sensors and connectors cheaply made and poorly designed, their placement on the vehicle is almost always in an area which requires complete disassembly of everything surrounding the component. Often, specialty tool are needed as well. Replacement parts are often incredibly expensive, too. For example, replacement fuel lines for a Chevy Cobalt or Pontiac G-5 cost almost 500, and theyre a dealer only item, so you wont find Chinese-made knock-offs at Advance Auto parts, or anywhere else. Those lines are just hollow tubes that probably cost less than a dollar to manufacture. But, theyre bare steel, placed near the cars left rear tire, where water and road salt will be splashing onto them. They will all eventually rust, causing a fuel leak. It seems GM has adopted Mitsubishis policy of selling vehicles at low prices, because the parts needed to keep them running for any length of time will make up for the low selling price. If you dont happen to be mechanically inclined, and decide to let a dealer perform repairs, it will probably be more cost efficient to just buy a new vehicle. As a mechanic, Ive adopted a No GM Products policy. I wont work on them because I cant justify charging my customers for the amount of time needed to do most repairs that are relatively simple to perform on Hondas, Toyotas, Fords, and even Subarus (although Subies are just plain weird sometimes, theyre still easy to wrench on. I also refuse to work on Mitsubishi products as well as any front-wheel-drive Chrysler cars for the same reason. Garbage - every one of them
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Ill never buy another GM vehicle. Not because of GMs plant closings, or their failure to pay back their bailout, or anything politically related to those things. The reason I wont buy another GM product is because they are garbage, and theyre purposely designed to be difficult to work on and repair. If youve ever worked on a Cobalt, or an Impala, or full-size Chevy or GMC truck, you know what I mean. Not only are many of the critical components such as sensors and connectors cheaply made and poorly designed, their placement on the vehicle is almost always in an area which requires complete disassembly of everything surrounding the component. Often, specialty tool are needed as well. Replacement parts are often incredibly expensive, too. For example, replacement fuel lines for a Chevy Cobalt or Pontiac G-5 cost almost 500, and theyre a dealer only item, so you wont find Chinese-made knock-offs at Advance Auto parts, or anywhere else. Those lines are just hollow tubes that probably cost less than a dollar to manufacture. But, theyre bare steel, placed near the cars left rear tire, where water and road salt will be splashing onto them. They will all eventually rust, causing a fuel leak. It seems GM has adopted Mitsubishis policy of selling vehicles at low prices, because the parts needed to keep them running for any length of time will make up for the low selling price. If you dont happen to be mechanically inclined, and decide to let a dealer perform repairs, it will probably be more cost efficient to just buy a new vehicle. As a mechanic, Ive adopted a No GM Products policy. I wont work on them because I cant justify charging my customers for the amount of time needed to do most repairs that are relatively simple to perform on Hondas, Toyotas, Fords, and even Subarus (although Subies are just plain weird sometimes, theyre still easy to wrench on. I also refuse to work on Mitsubishi products as well as any front-wheel-drive Chrysler cars for the same reason. Garbage - every one of them
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Steve P
Australia got tired of bailing out its car industry. Every couple of years, Ford and GM went to the govt and begged for money or theyd have to close plants. Of course, they were still exporting profits, just not cars (ever even seen an Australian car) Most of the cars made there were crap forced on the local market (high duties on imports. They held onto RWD forever (fat, dumb & happy. Eventually the govt was essentially propping up the uneconomic plants making crappy cars. The workers were good, but the products and management sucked. So eventually the govt cut off the subsidies, and both Ford an GM shut down completely in Australia. Toyota followed, since it wasnt profitable without the local component manufacturers critical mass. Lets face it, there are cheaper places to make better cars not far from Australia. So there you go - govt subsidies actually killed the Australian car industry. If they had been forced to make good cars that people actually wanted at a fair price, they might still be in business. Sure they would be smaller and employ fewer semi-skilled workers (more robot engineers) but which one would you prefer? Because that day is coming soon in the USA, Canada & Europe
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Australia got tired of bailing out its car industry. Every couple of years, Ford and GM went to the govt and begged for money or theyd have to close plants. Of course, they were still exporting profits, just not cars (ever even seen an Australian car) Most of the cars made there were crap forced on the local market (high duties on imports. They held onto RWD forever (fat, dumb & happy. Eventually the govt was essentially propping up the uneconomic plants making crappy cars. The workers were good, but the products and management sucked. So eventually the govt cut off the subsidies, and both Ford an GM shut down completely in Australia. Toyota followed, since it wasnt profitable without the local component manufacturers critical mass. Lets face it, there are cheaper places to make better cars not far from Australia. So there you go - govt subsidies actually killed the Australian car industry. If they had been forced to make good cars that people actually wanted at a fair price, they might still be in business. Sure they would be smaller and employ fewer semi-skilled workers (more robot engineers) but which one would you prefer? Because that day is coming soon in the USA, Canada & Europe
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J.K. Jacob
Dont like bailouts huh? Dont like being forced, as a taxpayer, to fund crap that does nothing good for you? Ie, dont kind being treated like a slave? Of course the idiots in DC caved to the whiners. When the one institution tasked with protecting your right to pvt property violates it everyday, yeah vote the bums out. But dont vote for ppl who keep doing the same thing, even if it sounds different. Dump all welfare programs, not just commercial. Dump all regulations, not just the ones so obviously written to seek bribes from pvt business. As to GM, good riddance. I never owned one and have no interest in any of their vehicles. If they can offer a better product by rebooting themselves in China, fine. I dont think it will but hey, try it. Since they cant build a decent car worth a damn, let GM workers find jobs with better companies. Markets work.
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Dont like bailouts huh? Dont like being forced, as a taxpayer, to fund crap that does nothing good for you? Ie, dont kind being treated like a slave? Of course the idiots in DC caved to the whiners. When the one institution tasked with protecting your right to pvt property violates it everyday, yeah vote the bums out. But dont vote for ppl who keep doing the same thing, even if it sounds different. Dump all welfare programs, not just commercial. Dump all regulations, not just the ones so obviously written to seek bribes from pvt business. As to GM, good riddance. I never owned one and have no interest in any of their vehicles. If they can offer a better product by rebooting themselves in China, fine. I dont think it will but hey, try it. Since they cant build a decent car worth a damn, let GM workers find jobs with better companies. Markets work.
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TheTowmn793
Ive been towing cars for over 25yrs and working on them for longer I make so much money on American cars now VVT engines timing chains, gm LS V8 engines pick up tube oring debacle and the list goes on and on. Now I am coming across a lot of Chevy Cruzes coming in with cracked water outlets housings because of how cheap and thin they are made at the factory 15-20 minute fix for me with a better and cheaper than OEM replacement housing at a local parts store has turnes out to be a head gasket diagnoses at the dealership for gullible people with no warranty and a good credit card. Knock Knock whos there the dreaded HVAC blend door actuators and the list goes on and on. keep putting out good info Scotty some people are learning.
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Ive been towing cars for over 25yrs and working on them for longer I make so much money on American cars now VVT engines timing chains, gm LS V8 engines pick up tube oring debacle and the list goes on and on. Now I am coming across a lot of Chevy Cruzes coming in with cracked water outlets housings because of how cheap and thin they are made at the factory 15-20 minute fix for me with a better and cheaper than OEM replacement housing at a local parts store has turnes out to be a head gasket diagnoses at the dealership for gullible people with no warranty and a good credit card. Knock Knock whos there the dreaded HVAC blend door actuators and the list goes on and on. keep putting out good info Scotty some people are learning.
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Jolteon 5456
Ok, one thing about the Volt. I should say that they dont suck at all. At least the 2011 model didnt. We had one and we had trouble free miles pretty much other than getting a flat but thats a whole other thing. Just wanted to let you know. Also, what I think may be the reason why there taking away the volt is because mainly of the fact that they believe in the future of cars so an artical says. But most of the other stuff that you said, your probably right. Although it may be possible that I got a sweet one. Sometimes you will get cars that are better made than others and sometimes you will just get lemons.
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Ok, one thing about the Volt. I should say that they dont suck at all. At least the 2011 model didnt. We had one and we had trouble free miles pretty much other than getting a flat but thats a whole other thing. Just wanted to let you know. Also, what I think may be the reason why there taking away the volt is because mainly of the fact that they believe in the future of cars so an artical says. But most of the other stuff that you said, your probably right. Although it may be possible that I got a sweet one. Sometimes you will get cars that are better made than others and sometimes you will just get lemons.
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nightlightabcd
I remember this all very well. Of course, the right blamed it all on the labor unions The labor union took a cut on their wages but management gave themselves big raises This is when the GOP was attacking labor unions while encouraging run amok capitalism and deregulation The labor union assembles the cars, its management that designs the cars, not those assembling America has been on the decline since the 90s with ever more government reductions and run amoke capitalism encouraging run amok greed and the quality of ANYTHING made in the US has declined so much as well as ethics
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I remember this all very well. Of course, the right blamed it all on the labor unions The labor union took a cut on their wages but management gave themselves big raises This is when the GOP was attacking labor unions while encouraging run amok capitalism and deregulation The labor union assembles the cars, its management that designs the cars, not those assembling America has been on the decline since the 90s with ever more government reductions and run amoke capitalism encouraging run amok greed and the quality of ANYTHING made in the US has declined so much as well as ethics
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Hakeem Sd70M
Its a shame that Hamtramck is shutting down. They built some very good, quality cars over the years, from the Cadillac Eldorado (an 1985 was GM Hamtramcks first car, Allante, Deville, DTS, Seville, 90s-00s Buick Park Avenue, Lucerne, and Pontiac Bonneville, among others. A big stab in the back in to us loyal GM customers. In our family, we have an excellent Kansas City-built 2012 Chevy Malibu, but after this stunt, Ill never a new GM car for as long as I live. Im going to find it very hard to pass up a 90s B-body Caprice Wagon or 00s Park Ave as a second car, though.
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Its a shame that Hamtramck is shutting down. They built some very good, quality cars over the years, from the Cadillac Eldorado (an 1985 was GM Hamtramcks first car, Allante, Deville, DTS, Seville, 90s-00s Buick Park Avenue, Lucerne, and Pontiac Bonneville, among others. A big stab in the back in to us loyal GM customers. In our family, we have an excellent Kansas City-built 2012 Chevy Malibu, but after this stunt, Ill never a new GM car for as long as I live. Im going to find it very hard to pass up a 90s B-body Caprice Wagon or 00s Park Ave as a second car, though.
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Mark Anthony Richardson
Moveing the car production out of USA to China was the plan when George Bush was president. Thats why Wall Street and CNBC despised Obama propping it up with takeing it. over calling it GM = Government Motors. The Wall Street bunch wanted the 40% extra profit PAYING China people a liveing wage and chargeing as if Americans were still building them. 40, 000 car =20, 000 profit to Wall Street stock holders like Mitt Romnie hes the best Republican at doing that. Hes starved and sent middle class American white people to homeless shelters doing this.
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Moveing the car production out of USA to China was the plan when George Bush was president. Thats why Wall Street and CNBC despised Obama propping it up with takeing it. over calling it GM = Government Motors. The Wall Street bunch wanted the 40% extra profit PAYING China people a liveing wage and chargeing as if Americans were still building them. 40, 000 car =20, 000 profit to Wall Street stock holders like Mitt Romnie hes the best Republican at doing that. Hes starved and sent middle class American white people to homeless shelters doing this.
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1FNJO
Compact cars with little or no room to work on anymore, big black guys in Detroit that could palm a basketballs couldnt get there hands in there anymore after the 90s and too many screws were left loose. We had to move production to Mexico where Lil Brown Midgets were hired to get in and under there, but too much Tequila flowing and long Siestas, and Production was No Beuno, so we had to Offshore to China and hire the eager Chinamen that do calistenics in the yards before starting their 16 hour days
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Compact cars with little or no room to work on anymore, big black guys in Detroit that could palm a basketballs couldnt get there hands in there anymore after the 90s and too many screws were left loose. We had to move production to Mexico where Lil Brown Midgets were hired to get in and under there, but too much Tequila flowing and long Siestas, and Production was No Beuno, so we had to Offshore to China and hire the eager Chinamen that do calistenics in the yards before starting their 16 hour days
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